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Match Thread Oldham v Coventry Match Thread - Saturday 11th Feb (1 Viewer)

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covcity4life

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #456
stupot07 said:
The league was only 10 games in, the difference in the league is never that much after 10 games. Why can't you just admit that in his 10 game stint and in recruitment, mowbray failed this season?

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How many more times can i say summer recruitment was poor? Its almost as if you are ignoring me mate.

Mowbray got 6 draws. We only lost 4. Were we good? Nope. Were we 100% 24th position 10pts off safety relegation fodder? Nope

Venus and slade runs of resukts are reason we are where we are. The recruitment took us from 8th to lower table. But trouble becomes relegation when u have shit managers at helm loke venus and slade imo
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #457
clint van damme said:
The problem with building is getting sisu to finance longer term contracts and to get people in early pre season when there's no money coming into the club. A situation that will deteriorate further next year as more and more people don't renew their ST.
Fisher needs to look at this because we'll never improve as a club with the current constant turn over of players.
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We will have some cash for rebuilding in the summer. Stevenson will go, Willis will go, Haynes will go, Harries probably as well. That's potentially £2m+.

Get a keeper in their late 20s in, a big CB and a target man on 3 year contracts. Bigi would stay if we asked him, L2 is probably his level. Promote some of the kids, Thomas up front alongside a big man, DiKE RB, DeKE and Jones on the wings. Finch in the middle. A few loans. Look for a couple of young players being released from the Prem or coming through in non-league. Get a manager in who has can put in a "Coventry way". Make it clear that's the plan, no "bounce back budget" just a plan for stability and a platform to build on even if it means we are mid-table in L2 for a couple of years before we are challenging.
 
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ecky

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #458
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Mowbray has been, and always will be accountable for not only blowing promotion, but also getting us relegated by putting together a team that even I could play in.

Slade might not be the messiah by any means, but apart from being not very good, all he can be blamed for is being unable to fix Mowbray's (and Venus') mess.

Just like being unable to change all that, we always cannot change that you are wrong on this.
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I don't think Slade has anything new to offer our club
Tactically he is inept and I'm afraid his track records should of been enough of a warning for us before he was employed
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #459
covcity4life said:
Sisu have abd are hurting ccfc more than mowbray venus and slade combined. We ahud never forget this even tho its easier to focus on football level as board politics is depressing.
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Love the fact that you can tell how angry you're getting by the typos creeping in lol
 

stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #460
stupot07 said:
The league was only 10 games in, the difference in the league is never that much after 10 games. Why can't you just admit that in his 10 game stint and in recruitment, mowbray failed this season?

We will pretty much all unanimously agree with you that Slade has failed since he joined.

Not having a go at you, but this year in the league has been a disaster start to finish.

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Pointless arguing with him Stu...he's a complete nob and I thought he was ok to start...I bet he even argues in his sleep
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #461
Slade sounds annoyed.

Also says we can't clear it and just put their foot through it.
 

skybluedan

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #462
At the end of the day the whole lot failed all the cunts
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #463
Nick said:
Slade sounds annoyed.

Also says we can't clear it and just put their foot through it.
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I'm annoyed. Who's fucking job is it to teach the players these things?
 
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AVWskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #464
covcity4life said:
Haha

Wheb you think im wrong its stfu

When im proven right its stfu

Ahhaha
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It's not about whether your right or wrong, it's about you getting so smug about it that it's more important to you than us losing a game we should have won you complete and utter immature tool


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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #465
It sounds like Slade is having a meltdown.
 
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stupot07

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #466
covcity4life said:
How many more times can i say summer recruitment was poor? Its almost as if you are ignoring me mate.

Mowbray got 6 draws. We only lost 4. Were we good? Nope. Were we 100% 24th position 10pts off safety relegation fodder? Nope

Venus and slade runs of resukts are reason we are where we are. The recruitment took us from 8th to lower table. But trouble becomes relegation when u have shit managers at helm loke venus and slade imo
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Mowbray managed us for 1/3 of our league games, at this point in time he is just as much to blame. Its a 46 game season not a 36 game season and the other 10 games don't matter

Slade - failed
Venus - failed
Mowbray - failed
Sisu - failed
Fisher - failed
The squad - failed

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sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #467
Slade

Don't feel gifted Oldham

Better team in parts. Hit woodwork twice

Conceded 3 disappointing goals

Not laid a glove on the man for the third and that frustrates the hell out of me

Go in and play good stuff to get a goal back

5 mins of madness

Could have been a free kick on the GK

Decisions not gone against us

Unbelievable

Keep it tight. Keep it right

Think RCC should do better but a bit of a nudge on him

Some refs give it. This one didn't

What we do; start second half we'll. give sloppiest free kick away. Two opportunities to clear it. Can't give it distance and re shape. Provides Oldham with pressure for second half

Don't deal with basics well enough

What frustrates me about them - I wish we were poor consistently

Mental weakness

Unlucky not to score four today - positive side

Pummel them towards the end

Hard when chasing the game away from home

Have to do 'it' consistently

Can't play out there part time. Have to concentrate for 96 mins. Have to be brave. Have to be bold

Don't want to make any excuses

Two really good players missing

Numbers in league don't lie

Working very hard

In tomorrow at 10am. Not forgetting about that
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #468
Lets be honest and stop blaming all and sundry. We were the better side today up to the RCC error. Could have been so different. BUT the problem is Slade has his opinion on team selection that I believe most of us would say differs from ours? that's the issue here not so much Fisher, SISU or anything else in the short term.
I thought Turnball deserved a start today and showed he can play for the shirt. those we like to call our better players carrying knocks need to take a pain shot and step up. Slade for me is failing in all departments regarding the team and what is needed game by game and recognizing the urgency. he tinkers too much and then expects someone like gadcev to turn it on? Surely if you had too Biggi would have been a better selection? his decisions are bewildering and that is why we lost today. The manager not Fisher, not SISU as much as I want to blame them.
 
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ecky

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #469
shmmeee said:
We will have some cash for rebuilding in the summer. Stevenson will go, Willis will go, Haynes will go, Harries probably as well. That's potentially £2m+.

Get a keeper in their late 20s in, a big CB and a target man on 3 year contracts. Bigi would stay if we asked him, L2 is probably his level. Promote some of the kids, Thomas up front alongside a big man, DiKE RB, DeKE and Jones on the wings. Finch in the middle. A few loans. Look for a couple of young players being released from the Prem or coming through in non-league. Get a manager in who has can put in a "Coventry way". Make it clear that's the plan, no "bounce back budget" just a plan for stability and a platform to build on even if it means we are mid-table in L2 for a couple of years before we are challenging.
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We won't have any cash your dreaming
 

fellatio_Martinez

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #470
Blame it on the boogie.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #471
shmmeee said:
We will have some cash for rebuilding in the summer. Stevenson will go, Willis will go, Haynes will go, Harries probably as well. That's potentially £2m+.

Get a keeper in their late 20s in, a big CB and a target man on 3 year contracts. Bigi would stay if we asked him, L2 is probably his level. Promote some of the kids, Thomas up front alongside a big man, DiKE RB, DeKE and Jones on the wings. Finch in the middle. A few loans. Look for a couple of young players being released from the Prem or coming through in non-league. Get a manager in who has can put in a "Coventry way". Make it clear that's the plan, no "bounce back budget" just a plan for stability and a platform to build on even if it means we are mid-table in L2 for a couple of years before we are challenging.
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Yes they will go and it may raise £2m+ but none of that will go on team building it will go to keeping the owners happy as will the Wembley money, with such low season ticket sales the playing budget could end up nearer to £1m than this years figure but even at that number we shouldn't be desperate enough to keep the hopeless Finch

The other issue is who is going to decide who gets kept on and released.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #472
sw88 said:
I wish we were poor consistently
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Don't worry Russell, we are.
 
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Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #473
Not signing a reliable goal-keeper is the most unforgivable sin in my opinion. It's been obvious for two seasons that neither was good enough.
You can't expect any defence to be confident having either one of them in goal.
We were as good as relegated three games ago, the last two games have just confirmed it.
 
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1966skyblue

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #474
Just spoke to my son on the way back. Players brought in today - Foley, Clarke and Rawson all at fault for the goals. Said RCC had the ball in 2 hands and had it knocked out. Team selection clueless.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #475
shmmeee said:
I really don't enjoy agreeing with ccfc4l, but you can't blame Mowbray. He left after 10 games, showed last season he can put a side together and Slade had all January to mould the squad in his image and failed miserably.
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I agree. We were poor before Mowbray left. We had a bounce then fell away under Venus. Now In the league we are worse than ever. Before TM left we were drawing or losing narrowly. Now we are shipping goals left, right and centre. Turnbull, harries and DKE should be playing from now on. Stevenson and Bigi in midfield and now we are down we should give Ponticelli his chance off the bench.
We have to get a team right for the checkatrade trophy final. Slade start planning for that now.


PUSB
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #476
Gazolba said:
Not signing a reliable goal-keeper is the most unforgivable sin in my opinion. It's been obvious for two seasons that neither was good enough.
You can't expect any defence to be confident having either one of them in goal.
We were as good as relegated three games ago, the last two games have just confirmed it.
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I'm amazed so many managers have stuck with choosing between these two.

I like RCC. But he's not been the finished article. And is still too young especially to be involved in our relegation battles.

Wigan thought last season they'd go for an 'up and coming' keeper for this league. They finished it with Promotion after bringing in Jaaskalainen.

An experienced keeper will always be preferred.
 
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ecky

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #477
lifeskyblue said:
I agree. We were poor before Mowbray left. We had a bounce then fell away under Venus. Now In the league we are worse than ever. Before TM left we were drawing or losing narrowly. Now we are shipping goals left, right and centre. Turnbull, harries and DKE should be playing from now on. Stevenson and Bigi in midfield and now we are down we should give Ponticelli his chance off the bench.
We have to get a team right for the checkatrade trophy final. Slade start planning for that now.


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I'm hoping the bloke is sacked before then
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #478
fellatio_Martinez said:
I think he has some kind of National Trust protected status he's been here that long. Ugly fucker has to be built around rather than knocked down.
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He's grade 1 listed
 
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shelby76

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #479
Might as well let ricketts take over now.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #480
shelby76 said:
Might as well let ricketts take over now.
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Has he got his coaching badges


PUSB
 
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shelby76

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #481
lifeskyblue said:
Has he got his coaching badges


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don't know but does it matter right now the way it is going?
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #482
shelby76 said:
don't know but does it matter right now the way it is going?
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No it doesn't to me. I think he would be a good shout. I just wondered if they had to have a certain level of badge. I think managers a few years ago did need certain coaching quals before they could manage a professional club


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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #483
Paxman II said:
Lets be honest and stop blaming all and sundry. We were the better side today up to the RCC error. Could have been so different. BUT the problem is Slade has his opinion on team selection that I believe most of us would say differs from ours? that's the issue here not so much Fisher, SISU or anything else in the short term.
I thought Turnball deserved a start today and showed he can play for the shirt. those we like to call our better players carrying knocks need to take a pain shot and step up. Slade for me is failing in all departments regarding the team and what is needed game by game and recognizing the urgency. he tinkers too much and then expects someone like gadcev to turn it on? Surely if you had too Biggi would have been a better selection? his decisions are bewildering and that is why we lost today. The manager not Fisher, not SISU as much as I want to blame them.
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You're wrong. Oldham were on top before the Cook error and that goal was coming. Slade did NOTHING to try and influence the game at all whereas Oldham's boss did.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #484
No more names. No one starting out their career thanks.

Go find someone with a record of improving young players, give them 3-5 years.
 
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matesx

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #485
Cotterill?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #486
AVWskyblue said:
It's not about whether your right or wrong, it's about you getting so smug about it that it's more important to you than us losing a game we should have won you complete and utter immature tool


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Simply not true wether you believe me or not. I posted a positive response mid game but ubfortuntley i posted it in off topic by accident lol
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #487
The guy at rangers is now free


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covcity4life

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  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #488
stupot07 said:
Mowbray managed us for 1/3 of our league games, at this point in time he is just as much to blame. Its a 46 game season not a 36 game season and the other 10 games don't matter

Slade - failed
Venus - failed
Mowbray - failed
Sisu - failed
Fisher - failed
The squad - failed

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And where have i said different to the above???

They all failed. So to blame 1 guy and say rest neve rhad a chance is dumb imo

Agree?
 

skybluedan

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #489
Gazolba said:
Not signing a reliable goal-keeper is the most unforgivable sin in my opinion. It's been obvious for two seasons that neither was good enough.
You can't expect any defence to be confident having either one of them in goal.
We were as good as relegated three games ago, the last two games have just confirmed it.
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Exactly mate
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2017
  • #490
shelby76 said:
Might as well let ricketts take over now.
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At least he has played professionally, unlike Slade
 
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