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Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
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Steve Cotterill on how to build a title winning side


Find a formation that suits


"We were already playing the 3-5-2 at the end of last season, so it's a formation I'd been looking at for a little while," Cotterill told BBC Sport. "But what I needed to do was make it better than the season before.

"And, while other formations can sometimes give you a problem, our formation can give other teams a problem. We've managed to do very well with it - and we've improved on it throughout the season too."

Sign players to fit the way you play


Cotterill brought in seven players during the summer, including four who were out of contract or had been released by their previous clubs.


Of those for whom the Robins paid a fee, no penny appears to have been better spent than the ones used to sign Luke Freeman.

The youngest-ever player to feature in the FA Cup proper while at Gillingham, the left-winger caught many an eye playing for Stevenage last year. He has done the same this season - but not as a left-winger.

"I always felt he could play as the one in front of a [midfield] two," said Cotterill. "You just needed to make sure he was going to work hard enough to get back and he's managed to do that.

"His running stats are up there every week and we're as delighted with that as we are his great feet in and around the final third.
"For his first season playing in that role, he's been brilliant."


Sign players who have been there and done it


Aaron Wilbraham had already won promotion with Hull City, MK Dons, Norwich City and Crystal Palace

The story goes that, in 1996, Manchester United's 'Class of 92'disproved Alan Hansen's theory that "you can't win anything with kids" by going on to lift the Premier League title.

What is often overlooked, of course, is that thirty-somethings Peter Schmeichel, Steve Bruce, Gary Pallister and Brian McClair all featured heavily throughout that double-winning campaign - and Cotterill has adopted a similar approach.

His two wise heads are 36-year-old captain Wade Elliott, scorer of Burnley's Championship play-off-final-winning goal in 2009, and 35-year-old forward Aaron Wilbraham, whose promotion with the Robins was the fifth of his career.

"I don't know if I can tell you how important they've been - they've been magnificent," said Cotterill.

"They're really young at heart. I think if you look at the way those two look after themselves, train and their desire levels at their age, it's only good for the younger players to copy them. They've been fantastic role models."


Get goals from all over the pitch


All of the 13 outfield players to feature in the promotion-clinching win at Bradford have scored this season.

To be successful you need a goalscorer in your team, so says the old adage. Cotterill's approach, therefore, has been to stack his Bristol City side full of them.

In total, 18 different outfield players have chipped in with goals this season, including five who have reached double figures. Though Wilbraham ended as the club's top scorer, the 12-goal contribution from centre-back Aden Flint has been as impressive as any.

"He was already fantastic in our box, but now he's become fantastic in the opposition's box too," said Cotterill. "You get a lot of centre-backs that run up for a corner, head it over the bar and the crowd say 'oooh, what a great effort', but I'm not sure that's enough.

"It's great for him and great for his confidence. People see him as a big lad, but it doesn't matter how big he is, he still needs confidence. It's been a great season for him."


Keep it tight at the back


It is no good scoring bucket loads at one end if you cannot keep them out at the other.

However, boasting the best defensive record in the division, City's success also owes plenty to their solid back three.

"They've been great," said Cotterill. "When we brought Luke Ayling in, I wanted somebody that could bring the ball out and, quite often, when you look for a centre-back they might not be able to do that.

"But it was a perfect fit and Derrick Williams had done that on the other side last year. It couldn't have worked out any better."


Use the loan market wisely


Matt Smith scored five goals in two legs as City beat Gillingham the Football League Trophy area final

No season is without its blips and, heading into the New Year, City were in danger of suffering a significant one when forwards Wilbraham and Kieran Agard both picked up injuries. Step forward Matt Smith.

Out of favour at Fulham, the former Leeds forward signed for the Robins on loan and wasted no time in making an impression, scoring 13 times in 20 appearances, including four in a single game against Gillingham in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

"He's as good a loan signing as you could get," said Cotterill. "When it's new, you're wondering how he's going to score his goals - is he going to score coming into our team framework?

"But he ended up striking up a good relationship with Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and they played very well together. And, as I've said before, all good things come from Cheltenham."


Get your players to believe



Despite having all the right ingredients in place, the most crucial can be the hardest to find. In Cotterill's words: "Belief is everything."

He added: "The players' standards and expectations throughout the season have risen. I said I wanted to win this league from day one. And I think, after a few months, their desire to win it had become the same as mine.

"You have to sell it and they have to buy it."
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #2
Sign players who fit the way you play. Very good but the first player mentioned was a left winger converted to centre mid....
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #3
Agree !!!!!!!!!!
 

stupot07

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #4
Hang on I thought 352 was the route of all evil?


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Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #5
stupot07 said:
Hang on I thought 352 was the route of all evil?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
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Only in 1930's Nazi Germany.

Pretty sure Adolf played 3-5-2
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #6
SkyBlueScottie said:
Sign players who fit the way you play. Very good but the first player mentioned was a left winger converted to centre mid....
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... and then successfully fitted in with the way they played.

Quite a gift to see a player can do more than they were doing, sign them and then convert them successfully into the player you believed they could be while fitting them into the way you play.
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #7
The whole thing is bleedin common sense though isn't it, when you think of it.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #8
Tony Mowbray : "there 's a lot of rubbish spoken about formations"

He's my kind of bloke. Besides, we're crap.
 

squeeam

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #9
Shouldn't we just get Cotterill. And all of the Bristol City team!
 

Samo

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #10
Didn't Cotterill watch the world cup like SP and see the error of his ways?
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #11
Samo said:
Didn't Cotterill watch the world cup like SP and see the error of his ways?
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The error of SP's ways was him taking up football management.
 

Calista

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #12
I think Pressley did have clear plans for the season. But he made disastrous mistakes in assembling his squad, and he let people go who would have been ideally suited to the way he wanted the team to play. I’m thinking particularly of the loss of Adams and Baker, but the squad in general was clearly weaker than the season before – yet he really believed he had improved it
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #13
Norman Lockhart said:
I think Pressley did have clear plans for the season. But he made disastrous mistakes in assembling his squad, and he let people go who would have been ideally suited to the way he wanted the team to play. I’m thinking particularly of the loss of Adams and Baker, but the squad in general was clearly weaker than the season before – yet he really believed he had improved it
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He definitely weakened the squad.

Yes, he had the old age problem of hands tied, but he still recruited very poorly and left great big gaps in the playing squad where we desperately needed players (Keeper, middle of the park).
 

stupot07

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #14
Otis said:
The whole thing is bleedin common sense though isn't it, when you think of it.
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I like the way he says he wants goalscorers across the team. 3 of our midfield 4 have not scored a single goal this season. That's why we seriously need to think about sacking off fleck, Barton and Thomas.


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Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #15
stupot07 said:
I like the way he says he wants goalscorers across the team. 3 of our midfield 4 have not scored a single goal this season. That's why we seriously need to think about sacking off fleck, Barton and Thomas.


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Totally agree. We need more Baker, or JOB type players.
 

cloughie

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #16
Otis said:
Steve Cotterill on how to build a title winning side


Find a formation that suits




"We were already playing the 3-5-2 at the end of last season, so it's a formation I'd been looking at for a little while," Cotterill told BBC Sport. "But what I needed to do was make it better than the season before.

"And, while other formations can sometimes give you a problem, our formation can give other teams a problem. We've managed to do very well with it - and we've improved on it throughout the season too."

Sign players to fit the way you play


Cotterill brought in seven players during the summer, including four who were out of contract or had been released by their previous clubs.


Of those for whom the Robins paid a fee, no penny appears to have been better spent than the ones used to sign Luke Freeman.

The youngest-ever player to feature in the FA Cup proper while at Gillingham, the left-winger caught many an eye playing for Stevenage last year. He has done the same this season - but not as a left-winger.

"I always felt he could play as the one in front of a [midfield] two," said Cotterill. "You just needed to make sure he was going to work hard enough to get back and he's managed to do that.

"His running stats are up there every week and we're as delighted with that as we are his great feet in and around the final third.
"For his first season playing in that role, he's been brilliant."


Sign players who have been there and done it


Aaron Wilbraham had already won promotion with Hull City, MK Dons, Norwich City and Crystal Palace

The story goes that, in 1996, Manchester United's 'Class of 92'disproved Alan Hansen's theory that "you can't win anything with kids" by going on to lift the Premier League title.

What is often overlooked, of course, is that thirty-somethings Peter Schmeichel, Steve Bruce, Gary Pallister and Brian McClair all featured heavily throughout that double-winning campaign - and Cotterill has adopted a similar approach.

His two wise heads are 36-year-old captain Wade Elliott, scorer of Burnley's Championship play-off-final-winning goal in 2009, and 35-year-old forward Aaron Wilbraham, whose promotion with the Robins was the fifth of his career.

"I don't know if I can tell you how important they've been - they've been magnificent," said Cotterill.

"They're really young at heart. I think if you look at the way those two look after themselves, train and their desire levels at their age, it's only good for the younger players to copy them. They've been fantastic role models."


Get goals from all over the pitch


All of the 13 outfield players to feature in the promotion-clinching win at Bradford have scored this season.

To be successful you need a goalscorer in your team, so says the old adage. Cotterill's approach, therefore, has been to stack his Bristol City side full of them.

In total, 18 different outfield players have chipped in with goals this season, including five who have reached double figures. Though Wilbraham ended as the club's top scorer, the 12-goal contribution from centre-back Aden Flint has been as impressive as any.

"He was already fantastic in our box, but now he's become fantastic in the opposition's box too," said Cotterill. "You get a lot of centre-backs that run up for a corner, head it over the bar and the crowd say 'oooh, what a great effort', but I'm not sure that's enough.

"It's great for him and great for his confidence. People see him as a big lad, but it doesn't matter how big he is, he still needs confidence. It's been a great season for him."


Keep it tight at the back


It is no good scoring bucket loads at one end if you cannot keep them out at the other.

However, boasting the best defensive record in the division, City's success also owes plenty to their solid back three.

"They've been great," said Cotterill. "When we brought Luke Ayling in, I wanted somebody that could bring the ball out and, quite often, when you look for a centre-back they might not be able to do that.

"But it was a perfect fit and Derrick Williams had done that on the other side last year. It couldn't have worked out any better."


Use the loan market wisely


Matt Smith scored five goals in two legs as City beat Gillingham the Football League Trophy area final

No season is without its blips and, heading into the New Year, City were in danger of suffering a significant one when forwards Wilbraham and Kieran Agard both picked up injuries. Step forward Matt Smith.

Out of favour at Fulham, the former Leeds forward signed for the Robins on loan and wasted no time in making an impression, scoring 13 times in 20 appearances, including four in a single game against Gillingham in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

"He's as good a loan signing as you could get," said Cotterill. "When it's new, you're wondering how he's going to score his goals - is he going to score coming into our team framework?

"But he ended up striking up a good relationship with Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and they played very well together. And, as I've said before, all good things come from Cheltenham."


Get your players to believe



Despite having all the right ingredients in place, the most crucial can be the hardest to find. In Cotterill's words: "Belief is everything."

He added: "The players' standards and expectations throughout the season have risen. I said I wanted to win this league from day one. And I think, after a few months, their desire to win it had become the same as mine.

"You have to sell it and they have to buy it."
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Agree but one slight problem.........sisu fisher waggott seppalla pressley DON'T LISTEN......................well only to themselves
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #17
Otis said:
Totally agree. We need more Baker, or JOB type players.
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I wonder what the chances of getting Baker back next season is if MK go up? I can see him not being part of the plan's if they go up despite having been good season, player of the year etc.

Didn't he only sign until the end of the season too?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #18
Otis said:
Only in 1930's Nazi Germany.

Pretty sure Adolf played 3-5-2
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His European tour was a complete disaster though.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #19
To this day I'm convinced waggot signed the players in the absence of scouts what did he bases his judgement on ? The stats would show they all had one thing in common they hadn't scored goals in the last few seasons. We lacked pace until Samuels arrived, we sold Callum 4th July we had lost Clarke earlier in Jan we knew this was a problem position yet Waggot unleashed a scattergun approach Marcus, Miller, Nouble McQoid Jackson Madine Samuels Big Nick - 8 strikers but very few goals and none of these will be with us next season. Chaos, the blind leading the partially sighted.
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #20
Philosorapter said:
His European tour was a complete disaster though.
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But they had plenty of possession and used to get lots of shots on target.
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #21
shy_tall_knight said:
To this day I'm convinced waggot signed the players in the absence of scouts what did he bases his judgement on ? The stats would show they all had one thing in common they hadn't scored goals in the last few seasons. We lacked pace until Samuels arrived, we sold Callum 4th July we had lost Clarke earlier in Jan we knew this was a problem position yet Waggot unleashed a scattergun approach Marcus, Miller, Nouble McQoid Jackson Madine Samuels Big Nick - 8 strikers but very few goals and none of these will be with us next season. Chaos, the blind leading the partially sighted.
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Yep, a shambles. Lack of pace, no recognised keeper, weakness in the centre of the park and strikers who couldn't score.

Besides that, it all went swimmingly.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #22
Why Pressley thought it was a good idea to play wing backs with Pugh and Clarke still baffles me
 

cloughie

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #23
Otis said:
But they had plenty of possession and used to get lots of shots on target.
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but gave away the lead after a late fight back and conceded heavily
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #24
cloughie said:
but gave away the lead after a late fight back and conceded heavily
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But still, you have to admire their gung ho approach, cause they kept pushing forwards and by the end nearly all of them ended up in the box.
 

Otis

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #25
Otis said:
But still, you have to admire their gung ho approach, cause they kept pushing forwards and by the end nearly all of them ended up in the box.
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Then some gave in and took up golf and ended up in bunkers.
 

cmoncity

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #26
Think waggott used the football manager database and signed them on the back that
 

Ian1779

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #27
CCFC said:
Why Pressley thought it was a good idea to play wing backs with Pugh and Clarke still baffles me
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Didn't Clarke call him an useless fucktard? Good shout on reflection.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #28
cmoncity said:
Think waggott used the football manager database and signed them on the back that
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wouldn't surprise me as it seems Pressley used it for his tactics.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #29
cmoncity said:
Think waggott used the football manager database and signed them on the back that
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If he'd done that we'd have signed Freddy Adu.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • May 2, 2015
  • #30
Ian1779 said:
Didn't Clarke call him an useless fucktard? Good shout on reflection.
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Haven't heard that one, there was a rumour that Clarke told him he didn't have a clue what he was doing which is why he was shipped out.
 

stevefloyd

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  • May 3, 2015
  • #31
Otis said:
Then some gave in and took up golf and ended up in bunkers.
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Their wall was quite strong at one point
 
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