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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #106
Grendel said:
Which is irrelevant - if simms for example does score a goal every other game ultimately he will be worth a lot of money. MVE potentially as well.
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They aren’t irrelevant as it exposes the club to more risk.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #107
Grendel said:
Which is irrelevant - if simms for example does score a goal every other game ultimately he will be worth a lot of money. MVE potentially as well.
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This.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #108
Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins26

More than half of our signings have been 23 or under. It's a very young squad. Wright sticks out, but I think issues off the pitch are affecting him.

Ultimately we have followed the same model as previously- use our budget to sign promising younger players. The only difference this season is that our budget increased. We weren't choosing to only spend 1-2m in the past, it was the only money available.
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #109
skybluecam said:
Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins26

More than half of our signings have been 23 or under. It's a very young squad. Wright sticks out, but I think issues off the pitch are affecting him.

Ultimately we have followed the same model as previously- use our budget to sign promising younger players. The only difference this season is that our budget increased. We weren't choosing to only spend 1-2m in the past, it was the only money available.
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Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #110
Grendel said:
Which is irrelevant - if simms for example does score a goal every other game ultimately he will be worth a lot of money. MVE potentially as well.
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Given we sold Gyokeres for 21mil, it's not unreasonable to suggest they were optimistic of doubling their money for Wright if he worked out, too, with some better exposure in a more high profile league. Simms, being younger, arguably has more promise in that regard.

Now Gyokeres is the outlier, as to get lightning to strike twice is improbable, but Simms for £10mil+ in a couple of seasons is not an unreasonable expectation from management; it's bonkers to suggest we weren't signing players with exactly the same intention as we had done before. Whether that pays off or not won't be decided on a dozen games, it'll be seen in a couple of seasons' time.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #111
Greggs said:
Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.
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Didn't get us promoted though did it.

We had 15 & 20m pound players in the squad for the final. If we want to go one better we need to sign more players of that calibre, and that involves spending money.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #112
skybluecam said:
Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins
Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins26

More than half of our signings have been 23 or under. It's a very young squad. Wright sticks out, but I think issues off the pitch are affecting him.

Ultimately we have followed the same model as previously- use our budget to sign promising younger players. The only difference this season is that our budget increased. We weren't choosing to only spend 1-2m in the past, it was the only money available.
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skybluecam said:
Didn't get us promoted though did it.

We had 15 & 20m pound players in the squad for the final. If we want to go one better we need to sign more players of that calibre, and that involves spending money.
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Stoke spend obscene amounts every season to get nowhere near the top 6. Ipswich are spanking the league with Conor fecking Chaplin up front…
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #113
skybluecam said:
Didn't get us promoted though did it.

We had 15 & 20m pound players in the squad for the final. If we want to go one better we need to sign more players of that calibre, and that involves spending money.
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How much did all those players cost?
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #114
Greggs said:
How much did all those players cost?
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Your idea that we can somehow hope to sign another Vik and Hamer for £1m each is ridiculous.

If we continued with that approach it would be 10 years before we found similar quality players.
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #115
skybluecam said:
Your idea that we can somehow hope to sign another Vik and Hamer for £1m each is ridiculous.

If we continued with that approach it would be 10 years before we found similar quality players.
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Why? Clubs do it repeatedly every season. We aren't the only team in world football signing players you know.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #116
Greggs said:
Why? Clubs do it repeatedly every season. We aren't the only team in world football signing players you know.
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Got to push the boat out for centre backs who get left on the bench.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #117
Saddlebrains said:
Yea hes not signing

Its been made pretty clear
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You mean not now ? Or not at all ?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #118
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Stoke spend obscene amounts every season to get nowhere near the top 6. Ipswich are spanking the league with Conor fecking Chaplin up front…
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It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #119
Sick Boy said:
It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
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Nor did the infamous Jackett
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #120
Greggs said:
Footballers are loyal? That's a headline.
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Did I say that?
 

junglej13

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #121
Sick Boy said:
It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
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Very easy to say in hindsight. He didn't look quick enough, strong enough or good enough when he was here. Was staggering we made a profit on him. Don't think Barnsley fans were too bothered about selling him either.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #122
Sick Boy said:
It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
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Not necessarily sure that was right - I agree he was a decent player, think it was a case of it just not happening.

i remember him getting a lot of chances and he kept missing/being saved - him and Luke Thomas if I recall were really wasteful
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #123
junglej13 said:
Very easy to say in hindsight. He didn't look quick enough, strong enough or good enough when he was here. Was staggering we made a profit on him. Don't think Barnsley fans were too bothered about selling him either.
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We made about £100-150k on him all up MAX.
There was a sell on fee to Portsmouth included in our deal which we had to pay them out of the profits.


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slowpoke

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #124
Greggs said:
Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.
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But we have more points on the board than this time (13) games last year.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #125
Sick Boy said:
It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
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We were offered a million for a player we hadn’t long paid just half a million for did you really expect sisu to refuse that.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #126
slowpoke said:
We were offered a million for a player we hadn’t long paid just half a million for did you really expect sisu to refuse that.
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Robins wanted him gone it was nothing to do with the owners
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #127
slowpoke said:
But we have more points on the board than this time (13) games last year.
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Which was considered a disastrous start to the season, not the best barometer to use is it?
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #128
Grendel said:
Robins wanted him gone it was nothing to do with the owners
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You don’t know that.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #129
Theonlywayisskyblue said:
You mean not now ? Or not at all ?
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Not at all
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #130
slowpoke said:
We were offered a million for a player we hadn’t long paid just half a million for did you really expect sisu to refuse that.
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It would have been a good deal whoever the owners were as the proceeds went towards signing Godden. Chaplin was okay but wouldn’t have scored the goals to get promoted
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #131
slowpoke said:
But we have more points on the board than this time (13) games last year.
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No we dont

We have 1 point less than 13 games last season

Which shows just how shit weve been
 
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Blind-Faith

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #132
So anyway, O’Hares contract…..
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #133
slowpoke said:
You don’t know that.
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Chaplin wasn't starting games by the end of the season

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #134
Greggs said:
Might aswell start playing the little c**t everyweek asap, who fucking cares if he gets injured again?!
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Yeah and he speaks highly of you too
 

Offhegoes

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #135
junglej13 said:
Very easy to say in hindsight. He didn't look quick enough, strong enough or good enough when he was here. Was staggering we made a profit on him. Don't think Barnsley fans were too bothered about selling him either.
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I liked Chaplin, and really thought he’d grow into his role here. Technically excellent. Hard worker. Was a little disappointed when we let him go, However ,his exit paved the way for Godden whose goals helped us get promotion.
As for O’Hare..He has to get match fit first, and show the injury has had no affect on his game.
After the drawn out Hamer episode , I’m resigned to the fact he’ll go, unless we shoot up the table and become serious challengers, possibly for Autos.
He left Villa to get first team football though. Would he be a guaranteed starter in The Prem?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #136
Greggs said:
Why? Clubs do it repeatedly every season. We aren't the only team in world football signing players you know.
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Sign better players

-stunning insight from SBT’s most intelligent user
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #137
Someone on here suggested that all was not well in the camp with the old guard totally unimpressed with the quality and commitment of the new signings…..who will most likely be earning more money.
Callum always seemed delighted with his colleagues…..could this revelation be affecting his mind now too ?!
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #138
Greggs said:
Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.
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Spending wisely being the key point. You need players that fit the system you want to play, and work well with other players in your team, regardless of whether they cost 1 mil or 10 mil.
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #139
Ashdown said:
Someone on here suggested that all was not well in the camp with the old guard totally unimpressed with the quality and commitment of the new signings…..who will most likely be earning more money.
Callum always seemed delighted with his colleagues…..could this revelation be affecting his mind now too ?!
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Let’s blame the new players for an existing hero wanting to leave on a free.

Perish the thought that one of our existing players isn’t as committed to the club as we all hoped !

Frankly I don’t care what the old guard think of the new players. The old guard are not pulling up any trees this season and they don’t have the excuse of settling into a new club, new country etc ….
 
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Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #140
The old guard would still be pissed off about money if Simms and Wright had 10 goals each already. Perceived quality is just an easy excuse.
 
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