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  • Start date Oct 27, 2023
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #71
Greggs said:
But he says he loves it here?!?
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I think Hamer did too and comes back to watch our games, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to sign a new contract.
 

SkyblueTexan

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #72
fatso said:
He's moving on, and tbf I can't blame him.
He's seen the level of talent we've brought in, and can see we are going backwards.

He's approaching his prime, and if a Premier league club comes in he'll be off. And I can't say I blame him, having had an ACL injury, he needs to make as much money as possible ASAP.
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Exactly this. If we (instead of Luton) had made it to the Prem, then I think Gyo and Hamer would have re-signed with us and COH would have followed suit even if we were in the bottom 3. But fast forward a season later and he sees a totally different club than the one he was in prior to his injury- no Gyo, no Hamer, having released a bunch of players and signed several new ones but yet flirting with relegation to League 1. It’s not like he sees the club going places which would make his decision easier. He wants to get as fit as he can (back to his former self or better) and place himself in the shop window so that he can go play at a higher level for better wages. That’s the way I see it and can’t blame him.
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #73
Deity said:
Christ are you new to football ?

players who plan to stay say so, players that don’t deflect the question.

Ohare could easily have said “ I’d love to stay if we can agree the right contract “ or “ I’ve told my agent I’d like to stay and it’s with him and the club now but I’m fully focused on getting fit”

He didn’t and it sounded scripted to me.
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It's an interview on the club site so would be as close to empty script as possible and not something that could later fly back in their face. They're always going to be stock answers like looking forward to playing again, fans were class we go again, blah blah. Whether he ends up staying or going there's absolutely nothing to be gleaned from this article
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #74
How to go from unique to generic in one transfer window.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #75
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How to go from unique to generic in one transfer window.
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We do now appear to be just one of the many championship clubs that have paid very good money to just be very very average. I was so excited for this season, its a real shame.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #76
TomRad85 said:
We do now appear to be just one of the many championship clubs that have paid very good money to just be very very average. I was so excited for this season, its a real shame.

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See Stoke every season, Bristol City a few years ago, Derby etc. We did best signing players with promise and something to prove but who weren’t the finished article and so could sign them for quite low 7 figure fees. Seem to have thrown that out of the window and spent money this club hasn’t spent since the top flight to sign players who just aren’t value for money. Their fees and wages will help them feel like they’ve already ‘made it’.

We could have used that money to build another special group that could grow over 3-4 years with plenty of change left over. As it is we have spunked two thirds of the income to do the opposite. Changed a formula that works for one that has not worked for many in this league.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #77
TomRad85 said:
The good news just keeps on rolling...

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Something tells me I’m onto something good
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #78
shmmeee said:
Something tells me I’m onto something good
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Woke up this morning feeling shite
Got relegation on my mind
Cleared out our best players like we knew we would
Oh yeah
Something tells me there’s still worse to come
1,2,3,4
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #79
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We could have used that money to build another special group that could grow over 3-4 years with plenty of change left over
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They still could.

I mean isn't that exactly the point of Kitching, Thomas, Simms, Latibeudiere, Van Ewijk - all of whom are 24 and under?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #80
Deleted member 5849 said:
They still could.

I mean isn't that exactly the point of Kitching, Thomas, Simms, Latibeudiere, Van Ewijk - all of whom are 24 and under?
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How much have we spent on them?
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #81
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
See Stoke every season, Bristol City a few years ago, Derby etc. We did best signing players with promise and something to prove but who weren’t the finished article and so could sign them for quite low 7 figure fees. Seem to have thrown that out of the window and spent money this club hasn’t spent since the top flight to sign players who just aren’t value for money. Their fees and wages will help them feel like they’ve already ‘made it’.

We could have used that money to build another special group that could grow over 3-4 years with plenty of change left over. As it is we have spunked two thirds of the income to do the opposite. Changed a formula that works for one that has not worked for many in this league.
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@skybluecam thinks its brilliant that we spent all the money really fast.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #82
shmmeee said:
Something tells me I’m onto something good
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Sit back and enjoy the journey.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #83
@skybluecam thinks its brilliant that we spent all the money really fast.
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Thankfully we still have the Gus money unspent and Gyo is tearing it up in Portugal so should move for good money next summer.

Hopefully we learn big lessons from the summer and go back to what served us so well before and what made the club special to support as opposed to being a copy paste generic.
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #84
Might aswell start playing the little c**t everyweek asap, who fucking cares if he gets injured again?!
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #85
Greggs said:
Might aswell start playing the little c**t everyweek asap, who fucking cares if he gets injured again?!
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Nah. Stick him on permanent community duty until someone takes him off our hands. Not like we’re short of AMs
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #86
Greggs said:
Might aswell start playing the little c**t everyweek asap, who fucking cares if he gets injured again?!
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If he comes back crap he can sign the new contract. If he comes back decent he’ll go somewhere else for nothing.

Win win for him, lose lose for us.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #87
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How much have we spent on them?
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Less than we've received.

And they're all exactly of the model of being young enough to be improved, and young enough not to be the finished article.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #88
Deleted member 5849 said:
Less than we've received
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Irrelevant. How much have we spent on them? Should they be on higher wages than Gyokeres was?
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #89
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Irrelevant. How much have we spent on them? Should they be on higher wages than Gyokeres was?
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No one knows how much we spent on them
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #90
Brighton Sky Blue said:
See Stoke every season, Bristol City a few years ago, Derby etc. We did best signing players with promise and something to prove but who weren’t the finished article and so could sign them for quite low 7 figure fees. Seem to have thrown that out of the window and spent money this club hasn’t spent since the top flight to sign players who just aren’t value for money. Their fees and wages will help them feel like they’ve already ‘made it’.

We could have used that money to build another special group that could grow over 3-4 years with plenty of change left over. As it is we have spunked two thirds of the income to do the opposite. Changed a formula that works for one that has not worked for many in this league.
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I agree with your thinking but I guarantee that if the club had taken that approach a lot on here would be complaining and we would have heard...

lacking ambition,
should have bought better proven players,
where has the rest of the money gone?
still shopping at Aldi when we can afford Waitrose
blah blah blah
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #91
ceetee said:
I agree with your thinking but I guarantee that if the club had taken that approach a lot on here would be complaining and we would have heard...

lacking ambition,
should have bought better proven players,
where has the rest of the money gone?
still shopping at Aldi when we can afford Waitrose
blah blah blah
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I saw Tavares in Aldi yesterday.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #92
Grendel said:
No one knows how much we spent on them
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You can get a pretty good estimate from cobbled together press releases and leaks.
ceetee said:
I agree with your thinking but I guarantee that if the club had taken that approach a lot on here would be complaining and we would have heard...

lacking ambition,
should have bought better proven players,
where has the rest of the money gone?
still shopping at Aldi when we can afford Waitrose
blah blah blah
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We’d have heard others then reminding us of what we’ve been doing since we entered this division. Most of us weren’t expecting all the Gyo fee to be reinvested anyway.
 

ceetee

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #93
Greggs said:
I saw Tavares in Aldi yesterday.
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In the middle aisle?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #94
ceetee said:
In the middle aisle?
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In the frozen section I think
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #95
ceetee said:
In the middle aisle?
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Yep, he was looking at Skeeters bbq sauce. I said "excuse me" he looked up thinking I was an autograph hunter, but he was just in the way.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #96
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You can get a pretty good estimate from cobbled together press releases and leaks.
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You can’t really as a lot are add ons. Simms we seem to know and we won’t have spent £4m on kitching - Thomas probably a million upfront
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #97
Grendel said:
You can’t really as a lot are add ons. Simms we seem to know and we won’t have spent £4m on kitching - Thomas probably a million upfront
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We certainly have spent £7.7m on Wright up front.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #98
Grendel said:
No one knows how much we spent on them
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It's irrelevant to the point we're following the same model anyway. How many established Championship players did we sign? Latibeudiere and DaSilva are it, aren't they? It's not like we went for established journeymen at this level, is it? We went for players with the potential to improve, without much experience between them.
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #99
I can see this getting messy over the year...

The main issue being who gets custody of Tom Grennan.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #100
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We certainly have spent £7.7m on Wright up front.
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We weren’t talking about him
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #101
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's irrelevant to the point we're following the same model anyway. How many established Championship players did we sign? Latibeudiere and DaSilva are it, aren't they? It's not like we went for established journeymen at this level, is it? We went for players with the potential to improve, without much experience between them.
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Wright is 25 and has cost an eye watering sum.
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #102
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We certainly have spent £7.7m on Wright up front.
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Yeah that one blows my mind!


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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #103
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's irrelevant to the point we're following the same model anyway. How many established Championship players did we sign? Latibeudiere and DaSilva are it, aren't they? It's not like we went for established journeymen at this level, is it? We went for players with the potential to improve, without much experience between them.
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The ones mentioned clearly can if they succeed be sold at a profit yes
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #104
Grendel said:
We weren’t talking about him
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Even taking a modest assumption of the base fee for Kitching it’s still as much as the base paid for Hamer and Gyo combined.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #105
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Even taking a modest assumption of the base fee for Kitching it’s still as much as the base paid for Hamer and Gyo combined.
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Which is irrelevant - if simms for example does score a goal every other game ultimately he will be worth a lot of money. MVE potentially as well.
 
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