How many keepers have actually improved under Oggy's tutelage?What an idiotic statement, grow up you fool
What I think is Burge proved at Wembley what a GK he could be, If he hasn't grown off the back of that then there is no hope.Yeah, he made errors, but at least he controlled his area, or least tried to and was very verbal. Burge has always given the back four the jitters and has seemed very much like he hasn't been able to control the penalty area.
I sincerely hope Burge does come good, but he has been very error prone for us thus far and that's the last thing you need in a promotion chasing season.
What I think is Burge proved at Wembley what a GK he could be, If he hasn't grown off the back of that then there is no hope.
For all the games he's played I can only think of a couple where his mistakes have directly cost us points.
Yes undoubtedly the commanding of his box is the downside in his game, by definition that affects the confidence of the back four in him and may lead to goals against/defeats.
But if he finds himself between the sticks again the support must back him, help his confidence as when its high he performs well.
It's a lonely position /profession as the last man.
O Brien looked a good keeper until he spent more and more time under oggys guidance now hes a nervous wreck. What does that man have to do to keep his job?
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What I think is Burge proved at Wembley what a GK he could be, If he hasn't grown off the back of that then there is no hope.
For all the games he's played I can only think of a couple where his mistakes have directly cost us points.
How many keepers have actually improved under Oggy's tutelage?
Take your sky blue tinted specs off. Jim Blyth recognises that Oggy's coaching is ineffective, about time the club realised the same. We don't owe him a living.
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Individual errors obviously ain't oggy fault but the fact that we have had burge and rcc for awhile now and both seem to have got worse rather than better
I agree with regards RCC however, Burge showed definite improvement towards the end of last season.
What was it Brian Clough said?
Players lose games not tactics. So much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes. ....LOLBrian Clough said a lot mate. You may need to narrow it down
It was a bit weird bringing in another keeper because RCC was and still is under contract. Burge was out of contract, so we assumed he was going.
Burge signed a new contract, so we still had both RCC and Burge. Makes it a bit puzzling as to why we signed O'Brien. Thought maybe RCC was leaving, but he's still here isn't he.
Brian Clough said a lot mate. You may need to narrow it down
No, I agree with that. Just expected RCC to be gone and that there must have been interest in him. I still maintain that RCC is a better keeper than Burge. I think we could have coached his impulsiveness out of him.Well managers have been criticised for not bringing in replacements before players leave. Now it is why have we signed someone when players haven't left? Managers can't win. People on here make it sound so easy to build a team. You just pick who you want and they gratefully come running and just shove your cast offs out the door.
I am sure there are many nearly deals and potential deals we never get to hear about. Things can be moving one day and dead in the water the next.
O'Brien , Burge, R,C,C . Pick all of their good points and put them together , surely you would have a good keeper !Getting another keeper in was fine with me if he was going to be a clear improvement on what we already have but I'm no longer convinced that's the case.
He's not a scape goat. He's not the reason we lost. However; the fact is that his time in the club's coaching staff has seen 3 relegations and numerous keepers many of whom make the same elementary mistakes. If deadwood had a name...
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...it would be Tim Fisher and SISU. Are you really blaming Oggy for their failure? Deadwood? Do you really think anyone can succeed in the environment that they have created? Perhaps we should do a least of everyone who's succeeded at CCFC under SISU's tenure. Shouldn't take long.
If Oggy is failing he's a symptom not the cause.
He is deadwood. Retired 2000 and has sat collecting a wage since....it would be Tim Fisher and SISU. Are you really blaming Oggy for their failure? Deadwood? Do you really think anyone can succeed in the environment that they have created? Perhaps we should do a least of everyone who's succeeded at CCFC under SISU's tenure. Shouldn't take long.
If Oggy is failing he's a symptom not the cause.
But then we didn't fail with Christie and Maddison and Bigi and Wilson etc. We managed to sell all those players for very good money.
He is deadwood. Retired 2000 and has sat collecting a wage since.
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We agree. Oggy is symptomatic of the club / the club is symptomatic of Oggy.Yes I'm sure he just sits. You need to grow up and look at the bigger picture. Even if Oggy does just sit there counting his money it's still symptomatic of the way the club is allowed to be run. If he's such deadwood the owners are so inept they're not capable of noticing and doing something about it. That lack of understanding and ability to address issues is the biggest problem at the club. That's not Oggy's fault.
Yes I'm sure he just sits. You need to grow up and look at the bigger picture. Even if Oggy does just sit there counting his money it's still symptomatic of the way the club is allowed to be run. If he's such deadwood the owners are so inept they're not capable of noticing and doing something about it. That lack of understanding and ability to address issues is the biggest problem at the club. That's not Oggy's fault.
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