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Oggy named our greatest ever player. (1 Viewer)

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Rodders1

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #36
Bad Boy said:
First time End of an Era ball at the Metropole at the NEC (to commemorate leaving Highfield Road) anybody and everybody that had played or managed us was there.
After the meal and speeches guests mingled with players chatting about this and that and I approached him who was in a small group of players (one of whom was Speedie and another was Bugsy) and thanked them for them for my memories and asked them to sign a very nice and quite expensive programme.
Response from him as he pushed me away......'fuck off'

Killer on the other hand sitting with his very attractive partner was lovely and seemed genuinely pleased to chat to me and when I related to him one of my unforgettable memories of that day in 87 was of my 11 year old son constantly asking if we were going to win when deep into extra time. He leaned over and wrote (after asking my son's name) 'Gary, stop asking your Dad whether we're going to win'

Second time at Bloomfield Road August 2009 when they had that temporary stand down the length of the touchline for visiting fans. Walked into the ground with 2 friends and my sis and bro in law and there was a burger bag right in the corner and I stood in the queue to get us some coffees. He was kicking in with Westwood and Kan'tstopashot when a ball flew over and dropped by the side of me. I picked it up and had intended to throw it back after I'd finished being served when I heard him barking 'give us the fucking ball back you'
I called him over and pointed out that many standing around saw him as a legend but in truth he was a horrible rude individual and it wasn't the first time he'd demonstrated that to me.
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Everyone has their off days I suppose. I’d like to think my experience was merely him wanting to be left alone as he might be a little bit of an introvert:-

Saw him, Peter Reid and Adrian Health in a bar in Brum during a night out. Went over to him to have a chat and he said he’d be back after going to the loo - he merely walked straight out of the bar! Not taking it too personally
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #37
Sick Boy said:
I used to have that book, it’s a decent read. I’m pretty sure the fan tried to punch Herman rather than the other way round though?
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I was there that day, strange that even 22 years ago every match at Preston was depressing

If memory serves.. we’d just conceded the fourth and it was all turning toxic, and a couple of fans ran on, one took a half hearted swing at Hedman and Hedman- I’m pretty sure- gave him one in the guts in retaliation.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #38
Rodders1 said:
Everyone has their off days I suppose. I’d like to think my experience was merely him wanting to be left alone as he might be a little bit of an introvert:-

Saw him, Peter Reid and Adrian Health in a bar in Brum during a night out. Went over to him to have a chat and he said he’d be back after going to the loo - he merely walked straight out of the bar! Not taking it too personally
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One of the parts of the book I was talking about which raised an eyebrow was that in general (at that time at least), players didn’t like fans, they saw them as idiots who are too emotionally invested. Ogrizovic told the author that he’d look for a move if we got relegated as he saw himself as a Premier League player. Dublin came across really well, but it was a really interesting insight into how players view us, the punters.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #39
Something I do like about Oggy though is he’s in agreement that Bassette needs a loan out to lower level
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #40
Ring Of Steel said:
One of the parts of the book I was talking about which raised an eyebrow was that in general (at that time at least), players didn’t like fans, they saw them as idiots who are too emotionally invested. Ogrizovic told the author that he’d look for a move if we got relegated as he saw himself as a Premier League player. Dublin came across really well, but it was a really interesting insight into how players view us, the punters.
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Yes, I remember that...I doubt that's changed at all.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #41
Tommo1993 said:
Something I do like about Oggy though is he’s in agreement that Bassette needs a loan out to lower level
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Him going on about PL interest in Palmer made me feel relieved he's no longer part of the coaching staff.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #42
Longevity and service = Oggy.
Pure ability = Keane & Regis
Most underrated = Borrows and Peake
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #43
Theonlywayisskyblue said:
Very harsh on Oggy. Best player still Tommy Hutch; he'd still probably get in our team now
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I’d rather have Mick Ferguson than Simms too.
 
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San Francisco

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #44
Bad Boy said:
First time End of an Era ball at the Metropole at the NEC (to commemorate leaving Highfield Road) anybody and everybody that had played or managed us was there.
After the meal and speeches guests mingled with players chatting about this and that and I approached him who was in a small group of players (one of whom was Speedie and another was Bugsy) and thanked them for them for my memories and asked them to sign a very nice and quite expensive programme.
Response from him as he pushed me away......'fuck off'

Killer on the other hand sitting with his very attractive partner was lovely and seemed genuinely pleased to chat to me and when I related to him one of my unforgettable memories of that day in 87 was of my 11 year old son constantly asking if we were going to win when deep into extra time. He leaned over and wrote (after asking my son's name) 'Gary, stop asking your Dad whether we're going to win'

Second time at Bloomfield Road August 2009 when they had that temporary stand down the length of the touchline for visiting fans. Walked into the ground with 2 friends and my sis and bro in law and there was a burger bar right in the corner and I stood in the queue to get us some coffees. He was kicking in with Westwood and Kan'tstopashot when a ball flew over and dropped by the side of me. I picked it up and had intended to throw it back after I'd finished being served when I heard him barking 'give us the fucking ball back you'
I called him over and pointed out that many standing around saw him as a legend but in truth he was a horrible rude individual and it wasn't the first time he'd demonstrated that to me.
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Thanks for going into detail. All I know of him personally comes from a couple fellas a little older than myself I see at the local every so often who played cricket with him. Largely positive things but it’s nice to see someone else’s perspective.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #45
Great servant - but Hutchison in my lifetime.
 
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Calista

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #46
Ashdown said:
Oggy, bless him, he’s thick as a plank on the radio most of the time.
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No he isn't...
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #47
Not for me.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #48
Might have been Wilson,he scored as many goals and won the golden gloves or something!
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #49
Calista said:
No he isn't...
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He struggles to remember who we are playing half the time.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #50
torchomatic said:
Not for me.
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Who you going for- Hutchison?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #51
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Also away game at Arsenal in his latter years , we lost 3-0 but if it wasn't for him it would have been about 10. He had more than a couple of good seasons for us in my opinion.
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He had a great game at Arsenal in a 0-0 draw, I think it was the season Ian Wright broke his nose (96/97)
 

Otis

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #52
MalcSB said:
He broke his leg in the second game in the top flight. So he did play in the then First Division. I doubt he would have played many 90 minutes these days, pussies.

Peak Roy Barry was probably even better, until he broke his leg.
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Maybe we need to break more players' legs.
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #53
cant argue with that, one of our best ever players, that save from cantona at old Trafford, up there with the best ever
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #54
Otis said:
Maybe we need to break more players' legs.
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Roy Barry got done by the law years later after he retired for basically running a brothel .
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #55
Ashdown said:
He struggles to remember who we are playing half the time.
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That's an age thing I think, how much heading do goalkeepers do across a lifetime,or kicks to the head Ian Wright!
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #56
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Roy Barry got done by the law years later after he retired for basically running a brothel .
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Immoral earnings and all in cash,, how did he get knicked?
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #57
wingy said:
Immoral earnings and all in cash,, how did he get knicked?
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Can only assume the neighbours noticed how many blokes were popping into the house day & night.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #58
George Hudson for me.
 
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Martw

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #59
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Great servant - but Hutchison in my lifetime.
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Hutch is the GOAT for me, these things are always based on time and generations though
 
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Otis

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #60
Martw said:
Hutch is the GOAT for me, these things are always based on time and generations though
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Yeah, true. I was only in my late 30's when I saw Clarrie Bourton play.
 
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eyesee

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #61
where did jds come on the list?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #62
Bad Boy said:
First time End of an Era ball at the Metropole at the NEC (to commemorate leaving Highfield Road) anybody and everybody that had played or managed us was there.
After the meal and speeches guests mingled with players chatting about this and that and I approached him who was in a small group of players (one of whom was Speedie and another was Bugsy) and thanked them for them for my memories and asked them to sign a very nice and quite expensive programme.
Response from him as he pushed me away......'fuck off'

Killer on the other hand sitting with his very attractive partner was lovely and seemed genuinely pleased to chat to me and when I related to him one of my unforgettable memories of that day in 87 was of my 11 year old son constantly asking if we were going to win when deep into extra time. He leaned over and wrote (after asking my son's name) 'Gary, stop asking your Dad whether we're going to win'

Second time at Bloomfield Road August 2009 when they had that temporary stand down the length of the touchline for visiting fans. Walked into the ground with 2 friends and my sis and bro in law and there was a burger bar right in the corner and I stood in the queue to get us some coffees. He was kicking in with Westwood and Kan'tstopashot when a ball flew over and dropped by the side of me. I picked it up and had intended to throw it back after I'd finished being served when I heard him barking 'give us the fucking ball back you'
I called him over and pointed out that many standing around saw him as a legend but in truth he was a horrible rude individual and it wasn't the first time he'd demonstrated that to me.
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I two have experience the ignorance of Oggy.

At a corporate event at Highfield Road while walking through a corridor i passed Oggy and said hello Steve.
Just ignored me, manners don't cost anything, ignorant bastard.
 

Shannerz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #63
Hutchison was before my time, but everybody who saw him says he was our best.

Oggy was an legend, and probably the most iconic player of my time supporting the club, being completely synonymous with it, but that's not the same as being our greatest ever player.

Dublin's the best I saw play for us.
 
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Sky Blue Wozza

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #64
Ring Of Steel said:
One of the parts of the book I was talking about which raised an eyebrow was that in general (at that time at least), players didn’t like fans, they saw them as idiots who are too emotionally invested. Ogrizovic told the author that he’d look for a move if we got relegated as he saw himself as a Premier League player. Dublin came across really well, but it was a really interesting insight into how players view us, the punters.
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Gary McAllister mentioned that Coventry was a “shit crowd” too

Garry Pendrey came across as a right arse in that book.

It’s an interesting read - a good time capsule of a time and place. Think it came out at the same time as the Jim Brown “The Elite Era” book, which in a pre-internet age was a vital reference for footballing stattos/ saddos, like myself.
 
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Sky Blue Wozza

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #65
The best encounter I ever had with a player was during a Christmas charity thing - my sister had spina bifida and was part of group for disabled kids that organised days out/ events (I got to tag along too).

Dave Bennett (shiny suit/ wet look hair) and partner (short skirt/ bottle blonde) won a prize on the raffle. He said “here you go mate, you can have this”, dismissively handing me a gift. That Denim aftershave gift set was proudly displayed in my bedroom for all of 1988. And probably 1989 too.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #66
Ring Of Steel said:
Who you going for- Hutchison?
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As I'm of that certain age, then yes. I was around 12/13 when he was at his zenith. Wally and Fergie too.
 
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DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #67
Unsurprisingly my GOAT would have to be Hutch.

On the subject of meeting ex players, I’ve had good experiences. Stopped Willie Carr in the street in Shropshire and he was kind (and patient) enough to chat for 10-15 minutes.

Others have been at Legends Days etc, when I guess they know they going to have to do these sort of conversations but particularly honourable mentions to Chris Cattlin, Ian Wallace, Garry Thompson, Keith Houchen and Dennis Mortimer.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #68
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Unsurprisingly my GOAT would have to be Hutch.

On the subject of meeting ex players, I’ve had good experiences. Stopped Willie Carr in the street in Shropshire and he was kind (and patient) enough to chat for 10-15 minutes.

Others have been at Legends Days etc, when I guess they know they going to have to do these sort of conversations but particularly honourable mentions to Chris Cattlin, Ian Wallace, Garry Thompson, Keith Houchen and Dennis Mortimer.
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Met Chris Caittlin at his rock shop in Brighton once ,was happy to chat about his time at Cov.
 
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DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #69
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Met Chris Caittlin at his rock shop in Brighton once ,was happy to chat about his time at Cov.
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My chat with him was in the SISU days and he was very passionate about the poor state of the club and the need for change.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #70
Ashdown said:
I’d rather have Mick Ferguson than Simms too.
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And Bobby Mc at left back
 
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