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Nick

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  • Feb 10, 2026
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Bakayoko would be proud!
 
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Dougin

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  • Feb 10, 2026
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Been saying it for weeks, the bloke is so overrated. Hes that brilliant clubs were falling over themselves to sign him in January.
 
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Dougin

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  • Feb 10, 2026
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If you could find the stats for most side nettings hit I’d imagine he would be top of the charts for that too.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 10, 2026
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Grrr
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Feb 10, 2026
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Nick said:
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Bakayoko would be proud!
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52 offside contributions by Haji and EMC.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Feb 10, 2026
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Grrr
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Straight out of the Beano/Dandy/Whizzer & Chips 'book' of disdain.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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Dougin said:
Been saying it for weeks, the bloke is so overrated. Hes that brilliant clubs were falling over themselves to sign him in January.
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Apart from some nonsense from Nuno?
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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wingy said:
Apart from some nonsense from Nuno?
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And that rediculous retort?
 

usskyblue

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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In his last full season with us, Darren Huckerby was flagged offside 98 times (Premiership 1998/9).

 
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Otis

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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usskyblue said:
In his last full season with us, Darren Huckerby was flagged offside 98 times (Premiership 1998/9).

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And that was just the one game
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #11
EMCs stat is even worse in my opinion. He can look along the bloody line!
 
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Bertola

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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clint van damme said:
EMCs stat is even worse in my opinion. He can look along the bloody line!
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Agree with this. A lot of Haji's are borderline. EMC's are a lot more obvious and more infuriating
 
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Shannerz

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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Neither Wright nor especially EMC have great decision making generally.
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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Shannerz said:
Neither Wright nor especially EMC have great decision making generally.
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Exactly. I was surprised that EMC wasn’t top of the list tbh
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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JimmyHillsbeard said:
Exactly. I was surprised that EMC wasn’t on the list too
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He is!
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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clint van damme said:
He is!
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I noticed, 2 secs after sending. The point about him being in a position to look along the line is key - but also held for Wright for the previous two seasons too.
 

Esoterica

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #17
But it also tells you a lot about what is dysfunctional about our play right now, especially against a team sitting deep. Our 2 in midfield get on the ball and see 2 wingers, whoever won the 'I get to play number 10 this week' lottery, and our striker all paired up with the opposition's back 4.

There's only a finite number of things that can happen at that point. No-one in our squad is any good back to goal, so it forces the wingers to go even wider to create a passing angle, and then we get Saka and Esse too far away from the box to really be a goal threat themselves and so trying a trick, to buy a yard of space, to fire a ball over to a couple of forwards who aren't great in the air and already dominated by a couple of bruisers who haven't had to move. Or we just lump a diagonal ball over the top. It's like watching a team desperate to score a last minute goal in a cup tie but for 90 minutes, every week.

It's so limiting to our attacking play. No chance for triangles and to move up the pitch as a team, no-one running beyond the striker from a deeper position causing confusion and pulling a defence out of position. No wingers making runs inside their fullbacks buying space for the striker when the centre backs get pulled out of position. That's what I mean when I say on the match threads that it looks like we have no plan for how we want to score goals. What is our attacking strength and what are doing to play to that strength?

Our entire attacking unit needs to start deeper against a low block and start playing a less direct, more possession based game with far greater movement off the ball than we currently have - we aren't asking our opponents the right questions. Are you organised enough and disciplined enough to hold this shape while we zip the ball around in a more dynamic shape? The only question we really asked Oxford, is whether they could stay awake long enough to collect their point.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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At least Hajis top in something !
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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Esoterica said:
But it also tells you a lot about what is dysfunctional about our play right now, especially against a team sitting deep. Our 2 in midfield get on the ball and see 2 wingers, whoever won the 'I get to play number 10 this week' lottery, and our striker all paired up with the opposition's back 4.

There's only a finite number of things that can happen at that point. No-one in our squad is any good back to goal, so it forces the wingers to go even wider to create a passing angle, and then we get Saka and Esse too far away from the box to really be a goal threat themselves and so trying a trick, to buy a yard of space, to fire a ball over to a couple of forwards who aren't great in the air and already dominated by a couple of bruisers who haven't had to move. Or we just lump a diagonal ball over the top. It's like watching a team desperate to score a last minute goal in a cup tie but for 90 minutes, every week.

It's so limiting to our attacking play. No chance for triangles and to move up the pitch as a team, no-one running beyond the striker from a deeper position causing confusion and pulling a defence out of position. No wingers making runs inside their fullbacks buying space for the striker when the centre backs get pulled out of position. That's what I mean when I say on the match threads that it looks like we have no plan for how we want to score goals. What is our attacking strength and what are doing to play to that strength?

Our entire attacking unit needs to start deeper against a low block and start playing a less direct, more possession based game with far greater movement off the ball than we currently have - we aren't asking our opponents the right questions. Are you organised enough and disciplined enough to hold this shape while we zip the ball around in a more dynamic shape? The only question we really asked Oxford, is whether they could stay awake long enough to collect their point.
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Good post

1 very important sentence in there, 'no one in our squad is any good back to goal' (the best is probably our left winger).

But I think that answers why Lampard drops Simms even when he's scoring once Wright is available, Simms is truly awful with his back to goal.

It also explains why he wanted Bamford and we really missed an opportunity not getting him.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #20
clint van damme said:
Good post

1 very important sentence in there, 'no one in our squad is any good back to goal' (the best is probably our left winger).

But I think that answers why Lampard drops Simms even when he's scoring once Wright is available, Simms is truly awful with his back to goal.

It also explains why he wanted Bamford and we really missed an opportunity not getting him.
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Simms is quite a funny example of that actually because it strikes me that they’ve tried to do a lot of work with him playing as a focal point of the attack and involving him early. You see it when he will do a bounce pass or cushioned header first time. Shame for him that he doesn’t have the game intelligence to realise that, when no teammate is around you, maybe it’s not best to play it first time.
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #21
SBAndy said:
Simms is quite a funny example of that actually because it strikes me that they’ve tried to do a lot of work with him playing as a focal point of the attack and involving him early. You see it when he will do a bounce pass or cushioned header first time. Shame for him that he doesn’t have the game intelligence to realise that, when no teammate is around you, maybe it’s not best to play it first time.
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Although if we are playing it to the striker's head then there needs to be teammates around him / playing off him.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #22
Esoterica said:
But it also tells you a lot about what is dysfunctional about our play right now, especially against a team sitting deep. Our 2 in midfield get on the ball and see 2 wingers, whoever won the 'I get to play number 10 this week' lottery, and our striker all paired up with the opposition's back 4.

There's only a finite number of things that can happen at that point. No-one in our squad is any good back to goal, so it forces the wingers to go even wider to create a passing angle, and then we get Saka and Esse too far away from the box to really be a goal threat themselves and so trying a trick, to buy a yard of space, to fire a ball over to a couple of forwards who aren't great in the air and already dominated by a couple of bruisers who haven't had to move. Or we just lump a diagonal ball over the top. It's like watching a team desperate to score a last minute goal in a cup tie but for 90 minutes, every week.

It's so limiting to our attacking play. No chance for triangles and to move up the pitch as a team, no-one running beyond the striker from a deeper position causing confusion and pulling a defence out of position. No wingers making runs inside their fullbacks buying space for the striker when the centre backs get pulled out of position. That's what I mean when I say on the match threads that it looks like we have no plan for how we want to score goals. What is our attacking strength and what are doing to play to that strength?

Our entire attacking unit needs to start deeper against a low block and start playing a less direct, more possession based game with far greater movement off the ball than we currently have - we aren't asking our opponents the right questions. Are you organised enough and disciplined enough to hold this shape while we zip the ball around in a more dynamic shape? The only question we really asked Oxford, is whether they could stay awake long enough to collect their point.
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I love your posts man
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #23
An offside issue that has started to grate me is from our attacking free kicks where someone (usually Wright) stands yards ahead goalside of the defence, I presume hoping to prevent being blocked off by his marker, but banking on the defence retreating before the kick is taken and then playing him onside. It seems to me however that over 50% of the time we end up being offside, which results effectively in us harmlessly handing possession back to the opposition in the form of a free kick to the opposition. The tactic also seems counterproductive in that our player's first move is backwards, making it more difficult to get forward momentum in attacking the ball ahead of the defenders.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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Legia Sky Blue said:
An offside issue that has started to grate me is from our attacking free kicks where someone (usually Wright) stands yards ahead goalside of the defence, I presume hoping to prevent being blocked off by his marker, but banking on the defence retreating before the kick is taken and then playing him onside. It seems to me however that over 50% of the time we end up being offside, which results effectively in us harmlessly handing possession back to the opposition in the form of a free kick to the opposition. The tactic also seems counterproductive in that our player's first move is backwards, making it more difficult to get forward momentum in attacking the ball ahead of the defenders.
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Definitely a thing. I remember O’Hare talking about “I was standing in the offside position” when he got twatted at a FK a while ago. Also got no idea why we do it tbh.
 
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CovRes

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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shmmeee said:
Definitely a thing. I remember O’Hare talking about “I was standing in the offside position” when he got twatted at a FK a while ago. Also got no idea why we do it tbh.
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It worked well for Charlton at our place. I think the idea is that in the ensuing chaos you end up onside and unmarked for deflections that fall near you.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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CovRes said:
It worked well for Charlton at our place. I think the idea is that in the ensuing chaos you end up onside and unmarked for deflections that fall near you.
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Yeah but then they need to actually get onside.

Against Oxford, every time the keeper made a save. Wright was offside so all pressure was off.
 
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Mercian In Anglia

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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usskyblue said:
In his last full season with us, Darren Huckerby was flagged offside 98 times (Premiership 1998/9).

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Usually when he had 30 yards of space to run into vs someone like Keown or Hendry that he could've given a 10 second head start to. If that lad could've stayed onside he'd have played for England.
 
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AJB1983

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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usskyblue said:
In his last full season with us, Darren Huckerby was flagged offside 98 times (Premiership 1998/9).

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Same old Darren, always offside….
 
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AJB1983

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  • Feb 11, 2026
  • #29
Nick said:
Yeah but then they need to actually get onside.

Against Oxford, every time the keeper made a save. Wright was offside so all pressure was off.
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There was one in the Oxford game that I could see from block 32…. The ball got played to him and yes he was looking at the ball to make his run but he had plenty of time to look across the line - he ended up heading it over as the keeper came off his line but offside flag went up - really frustrating as if he’d timed his run correctly even by half a second and stayed on he’d likely have connected better and it gone in.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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Legia Sky Blue said:
An offside issue that has started to grate me is from our attacking free kicks where someone (usually Wright) stands yards ahead goalside of the defence, I presume hoping to prevent being blocked off by his marker, but banking on the defence retreating before the kick is taken and then playing him onside. It seems to me however that over 50% of the time we end up being offside, which results effectively in us harmlessly handing possession back to the opposition in the form of a free kick to the opposition. The tactic also seems counterproductive in that our player's first move is backwards, making it more difficult to get forward momentum in attacking the ball ahead of the defenders.
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Doesn't make sense because if he's relying on the opposition getting back to play him onside before the kick, then they can still block him off. Plus he'll be standing still while they're moving so he has no momentum.

I'd love for us to have one or two players stand 5 yards back and they run in at the same time as the player taking the free kick. They'll be onside and have more speed going into the area. If they get blocked off by the defence it should be pretty obvious and we'd get a free kick closer to the goal.

Or maybe have some standing offside, some standing back and running in and leave the defence with no idea what to do.
 
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AJB1983

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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AJB1983 said:
There was one in the Oxford game that I could see from block 32…. The ball got played to him and yes he was looking at the ball to make his run but he had plenty of time to look across the line - he ended up heading it over as the keeper came off his line but offside flag went up - really frustrating as if he’d timed his run correctly even by half a second and stayed on he’d likely have connected better and it gone in.
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This is the freeze frame - it is ridiculously tight - VAR tight so the Lino did well to flag.
 

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Esoterica

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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shmmeee said:
I love your posts man
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Esoterica

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  • Feb 11, 2026
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clint van damme said:
Good post

1 very important sentence in there, 'no one in our squad is any good back to goal' (the best is probably our left winger).

But I think that answers why Lampard drops Simms even when he's scoring once Wright is available, Simms is truly awful with his back to goal.

It also explains why he wanted Bamford and we really missed an opportunity not getting him.
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I genuinely don't think it matters when we are set up as badly as we are recently. Here's a screenshot from less than 10 mins into the 2nd half vs Oxford demonstrating what I mean.

Wright is already looking for a ball over the top and playing his fine offside margins game.
Esse is just wandering about without a care in the world but definitely not on the left wing where he should be.
Eccles is playing like Kevin Phillips used to, except he's got no Niall Quinn up with him and he's supposed to be a #10 anyway.

No-one wants the damn ball to feet.

Woolfenden has just dithered for a while and understandably gone sideways to MVE, because he has no easy progressive pass. Everybody bar Wright and the 3 defenders in that picture are 8ish metres too high.

Sakamoto, Esse and Eccles all need to be level with Torp's starting position. Then the Oxford defence has a real decision to make - whether they break that nice back 4 line or alternatively call back that bank of 4 forwards pressing the ball to mark up, giving us simpler possession. If that trio start deeper, Grimes and Torp can get closer to the ball so that there is less risk in the pass out from the back.

You can see too why better teams than Oxford are destroying us on the counter attack. One bad pass there and we are screwed. In the end we use the outball to DaSilva. It's poor, behind him and he barely keeps it in play.

 
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coop

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To be fair he was never offside here.
 
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