The reason we do it is not about money at all which I think we have already established.What sort of car do you run then Adge, not trying to be funny but refs in general make me so angry because of their incompetence, I just don't understand the mentality of people wanting to be a referee knowing full well they will get abuse!! I just think they like the power trip, not trying to be funny to you or any referee because I know its a difficult thing to do I just cannot understand the reasoning.
My take on it is to referee at professional level you must have played at least a full season in league football as a minimum requirement, this way at least they should understand the 'goings' on around diving/cheating etc then give the less fortunate top players a chance to still be able to make a living from pro football, they should also be able to referee with common sense instead of some barmy old bastards like eufa or whoever controls the standards of refereeing making up so many grey area rules and with VAR coming in its gotten even more ridiculous too because some of those decisions is a fucking joke...rant over
Someone must have done a study that shows how many minutes of a match the ball is actually in play.Have a stopped clock. Immediately stops any time wasting.
People get confused around that aswell. The game lasts 90 minutes (plus time added on for injuries/subs etc) but that doesn’t mean that the ball has to be on the pitch and in play obviously. I’d say that it was probably on average about 70 mins ball in play?Someone must have done a study that shows how many minutes of a match the ball is actually in play.
no excuse for not having VAR in a televised game that has instant replays
How is additional time being calculated by the fourth official if they aren't keeping track of it? Anything that doesn't count as in-play the clock could be stopped so everyone knows where they stand. Pretty much every other sport manages it so I don't see why it isn't possible for football.People get confused around that aswell. The game lasts 90 minutes (plus time added on for injuries/subs etc) but that doesn’t mean that the ball has to be on the pitch and in play obviously. I’d say that it was probably on average about 70 mins ball in play?
Ah yes....stop governing bodies legislating and instead leave more of it to "common sense" of individuals - so as to avoid grey area's. Got it.hey should also be able to referee with common sense instead of some barmy old bastards like eufa or whoever controls the standards of refereeing making up so many grey area rules and with VAR coming in its gotten even more ridiculous too because some of those decisions is a fucking joke...rant over
Re: Re Darren Drysdale - is there a thread on his performance during Notts County 1-4 Coventry?
It is what it is. I thought the foul was outside the box, and yeah there was handball. Ultimately we had 17 chances and 1 on target.
Refereeing like the standard of football drops the lower you go, at the end of the day as annoying as it is - this is going to happen more. For and against us
Cos we give his son a living, did he go over the edge to give Tranmere more decisions, so as not to appear biased?
Someone must have done a study that shows how many minutes of a match the ball is actually in play.
I’d sooner go with you first suggestion and just have an independent time keeper.The keeper and the left back from Sunday can waste as much tome a# they want then as the timekeeper should (will) ensure that any of this is added on.They used to show it in the 90's on the stats of the time the ball was in play. Think it was roughly just over half an hour per half.
So amend the game to an hour long with a stopped clock, no injury/stoppage time. Like rugby - one whistle blows next time ball goes out of play for a throw/goal kick/corner game ends.
This also removes potential problem of a deliberate foul to end the game, so if a free-kick/penalty is given play continues. A winning team can then choose to just boot the ball straight out of play and end the game, losing team can keep it in and try and score.
People get confused around that aswell. The game lasts 90 minutes (plus time added on for injuries/subs etc) but that doesn’t mean that the ball has to be on the pitch and in play obviously. I’d say that it was probably on average about 70 mins ball in play?
It’s not the 4th official that adds on the time. The referee indicates to the 4th official how much time is added at the end of each half-the 4th official just relays that to everyone else by holding up the board displaying what time the referee wants adding.How is additional time being calculated by the fourth official if they aren't keeping track of it? Anything that doesn't count as in-play the clock could be stopped so everyone knows where they stand. Pretty much every other sport manages it so I don't see why it isn't possible for football.
I’d sooner go with you first suggestion and just have an independent time keeper.The keeper and the left back from Sunday can waste as much tome a# they want then as the timekeeper should (will) ensure that any of this is added on.
Who also gave his son a living originally?
I remember once when i played we had a goal kick i was in the oppostions half and the ref gave an offside against me, i told him you cant be offside from a goal kick...he didnt have a clue!! Is it just a case of turning up to become qualified? To be fair to him he did come up to me after and said he had just read the rule book and I was right....great so a qualified referee didnt know the basic of rules and god knows how many more to be qualified...this is the story I tell...case closedThe reason we do it is not about money at all which I think we have already established.
It’s about football/nothing more nothing less and being involved in the game that we all love. I have been doing it for about 12 years and started because of lack of Referees’s on a Saturday morning turning up for my sons team and me not playing anymore and it progressed from there.
We do hear things from the crowd and I was involved in a MFL game recently where the Referee (who had put himself forward where other will not) was a minor. Some clever person in the crowd (I was the assistant referee) was berating him all game and during a break in play I informed the said individual that his bile was aimed at a child. I guess this made him think about his actions. He was embarrassed by his actions and apologised to me to pass that on to the referee after the game.
I always use this story aswell in defence of the officials which may give a bit more balance.
We had a well known Birmingham City player who has since retired come to one of our meetings (some 4-5 years ago). He was asked what he thought of the officials in the Championship and the standard of refereeing.
“They are not very good at all and don’t know the game from a playing perspective”
One of my colleagues asked him does he read to which he replied that he does.
He then passed him the book of the laws of the game and asked has he ever read that. The player said he hadn’t read it or had never seen a copy before.
My colleague then asked him had he ever seen a copy around the training ground at the club etc and again the answer was no.
“So you are critical of the people who carry out and know the laws of the game and as a professional player at the top of your game you have never read or seen a copy of the laws of the game?”
Case closed.
If thats anything like VAR that wont happen lolI’d sooner go with you first suggestion and just have an independent time keeper.The keeper and the left back from Sunday can waste as much tome a# they want then as the timekeeper should (will) ensure that any of this is added on.
It’s normally around 50-60 minutes of actual play in the 90. The FA/FIFA or someone were talking about reducing the game to two 30 minute half's with no added on time and stopping the clock completely when the ball wasn’t in play.Someone must have done a study that shows how many minutes of a match the ball is actually in play.
I was still talking about an independent time keeper - they would have control of the final whistle/hooter etc.
I put in the bit about the ball going out of play because of the tiny chance that as the clock runs out someone is about to score a goal and you've then got the issue of was the ball over the line before time ran out etc. Might be easier to do at pro level with all the cameras but it adds in a potential controversy where there isn't need for one. It's why rugby doesn't finish exactly on 80 minutes.
Just do the same as in Rugby - once the clock runs out, the final whistle/ hooter goes when the ball is next dead, apart from if there is a foul, when the game should still continue.
PLEASE GOD NOno excuse for not having VAR in a televised game that has instant replays
If they used a stopped clock wouldn’t they have to play all day?Have a stopped clock. Immediately stops any time wasting.
It works well in other sportsIt’s normally around 50-60 minutes of actual play in the 90. The FA/FIFA or someone were talking about reducing the game to two 30 minute half's with no added on time and stopping the clock completely when the ball wasn’t in play.
Hi, why have you been so shy.Hi all, longtime reader, first time stander-upper.
Watched a video recently on time-wasting in football:
Discusses people analysing timekeeping in the last world cup and that refs were way off with additional time.
My biggest pet peeve is the 6 second rule with goalkeepers. Makes the blood boil.
I defended Drysdale for his part in the handball against Tranmere as it was shielded (by the player) and on his blind side. You’ll be happy to know that there is no defending the Assistant referee as he WOULD have seen it as clear as day.How bad do referees have to get before adge stops defending them?
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Yeah why would you want the right decision hey?PLEASE GOD NO
Any opinion why he didn't send off that fella who when already on a yellow hacked down a city player? The villa loanee.I defended Drysdale for his part in the handball against Tranmere as it was shielded (by the player) and on his blind side. You’ll be happy to know that there is no defending the Assistant referee as he WOULD have seen it as clear as day.
I want the game to be over on the same day it startsYeah why would you want the right decision hey?
I want the game to be over on the same day it starts
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