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OFFICIAL: Mark Robins has been sacked (1 Viewer)

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,016
Grendel said:
We were incredibly lucky in the league 2 season to get promoted
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Yep, luck gets your promoted over 46 games plus the playoff matches. Let me guess, League One winners was a bit of a fluke as well.

you can spend all day doing your best to belittle what the man did, you’ve got your own mysterious motives for that, luckily from what I’m seeing most fans are decent and can appreciate all he did for us.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,017
bigfatronssba said:
What you're saying is he built nothing. According to you he got an extended new manager bounce and thats it
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You’re thick or on the wind up (perhaps both), either way I’m done with you.
 

usskyblue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,018
Grendel said:
We were incredibly lucky in the league 2 season to get promoted
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File this under; Godden’s penalties don’t count.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,019
Ring Of Steel said:
You’re thick or on the wind up (perhaps both), either way I’m done with you.
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I'm just being as irritating as you are by deliberately twisting what people say
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,020
bigfatronssba said:
Oh fuck off

You're not the only one thats annoyed you know.

I loved Robins.
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He's not dead ffs.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,021
Grendel said:
We were incredibly lucky in the league 2 season to get promoted
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You can't be lucky after all is said and done , we finished where we deserved to finish

The only reason we didn't finish higher was every team sat 10 men behind the ball against us

It's like saying we were lucky to win the fa cup
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,022
Evo1883 said:
You can't be lucky after all is said and done , we finished where we deserved to finish

The only reason we didn't finish higher was every team sat 10 men behind the ball against us

It's like saying we were lucky to win the fa cup
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I think most of us feel we were unlucky to lose to Man Utd.

Also against Luton losing Hamer at the point we did was bad luck.
 
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Briles

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,023
Grendel said:
We were incredibly lucky in the league 2 season to get promoted
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Nobody is lucky to win via playoffs
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,024
Briles said:
Nobody is lucky to win via playoffs
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Luton?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,025
bigfatronssba said:
I think most of us feel we were unlucky to lose to Man Utd.

Also against Luton losing Hamer at the point we did was bad luck.
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We were but the fact is VAR gave the decision against us what can we do , it was officially offside by a nats dick
 

Briles

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,026
bigfatronssba said:
Luton?
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They deserved it, we should've lost in normal time
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,027
Evo1883 said:
We were but the fact is VAR gave the decision against us what can we do , it was officially offside by a nats dick
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I think there is an element of luck along the way during seasons good and bad ..we lost games we should have won etc but ultimately you finish where you deserve to over the course .

We deserved to go up and it's not easy many sides don't go straight back up
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,028
Evo1883 said:
We were but the fact is VAR gave the decision against us what can we do , it was officially offside by a nats dick
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But it is an example of luck affecting the outcome of a season.

Man Utd won the FA Cup because of luck
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,029
bigfatronssba said:
But it is an example of luck affecting the outcome of a season.

Man Utd won the FA Cup because of luck
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Read post above , they may have had things go against them In other games etc
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,030
Briles said:
They deserved it, we should've lost in normal time
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If Hamer hadn't gone off I think we would've won
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,031
We were lucky with that L2 promotion. We were lucky with that L1 promotion. We were lucky winning the Checkatrade. We were lucky getting to the championship play offs. The fa cup run was built on luck.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,032
What's done is done, it's been the best era for me watching the Sky Blues since 1978. Its a results business but Doug will need to get the appointment right. Him on the team photo still makes my stomach turn.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,033
Evo1883 said:
Read post above , they may have had things go against them In other games etc
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Which in terms of league position I agree with. The table doesn't lie.

But in knockout games it can just take a bit of bad luck to change a whole season
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,034
bigfatronssba said:
Which in terms of league position I agree with. The table doesn't lie.

But in knockout games it can just take a bit of bad luck to change a whole season
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No I agree in tournament football there is some luck etc , it's too small a sample size for luck not to effect outcomes
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,035
Evo1883 said:
Well most supporters are very unhappy with the news today , I understand some fans aren't and they're massive edgelords .. but most of us appreciate what mark robins has given us and think he should have been given more time and are disappointed with the clubs ownership .

For many it's a travesty
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Why are you so hysterical?

I’m sad that he’s gone because he’s a club legend. But the reality is that our league results haven’t met targets since 22/23, form and performances this season have been mostly dire and he simply hasn’t consistently been getting the performances out of the squad that they are capable of.

It’s not a travesty and saying that doesn’t make me a “massive edgelord” whatever that means.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,036
bigfatronssba said:
I think most of us feel we were unlucky to lose to Man Utd.

Also against Luton losing Hamer at the point we did was bad luck.
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Where we really were unlucky was losing all four coin tosses so we took the penalties second at the wrong end of the pitch.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,037
The timing of it stinks to me tbh

If he wanted to do this he should have been brave enough to do it at the end of last season when the season had petered out and given a new man a whole summer to put his stamp on things - It wouldn't have made the decision any more popular but I would have at least seen the strategical logic
 
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DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,038
bigfatronssba said:
He got us promoted 15 months after being appointed. That isn't instant. Lots of clubs wouldn't have been patient.

As I said I am in no way being disrespectful to what he achieved
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It was 15 months, but it was also the shortest possible timeframe for promotion to be achieved given where we were when he took over.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,039
Nothing but respect for what Mark has done over the years. He’s the reason we’re back in the Championship. Goes down as a legend.

But he was always going to be at risk the moment the club became a spending club following the Vik and Gus windfall. Also training facilities completely revamped. Pressure and expectations ramp up.

2024 across both seasons as a whole has been poor in the league. The results speak for itself and this season it’s hard to disagree the brand of football has been diabolical whatever the reasons. Tactically Robins looks lost and formations doesn’t match the transfers in.

You can see why Doug has pulled the trigger. Of course a lot here will be emotional about it all but from a business sense the investment is at risk.

Is this the right decision or not we will find out in time. Either it was a terrible decision or a new head coach comes in and completely transforms the team and we get promoted.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,040
Not sure we can argue about how long it took to get us promoted from League 2? Unless of course people wanted some sort of record to get us promoted by January.

We came up the first season, surely it's as simple as that?
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,041
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
It was 15 months, but it was also the shortest possible timeframe for promotion to be achieved given where we were when he took over.
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But that wasn't the peak of his success

Robins built teams.

He didn't just come in and give a few rousing speeches to get crap players going well
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,042
Nick said:
Not sure we can argue about how long it took to get us promoted from League 2? Unless of course people wanted some sort of record to get us promoted by January.

We came up the first season, surely it's as simple as that?
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Congratulations on missing the point as well.

We were 10th a month in. We'd lost 2 of our first 5 games.

We've seen expectant Championship clubs sack their managers for that sort of start
 

The Philosopher

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,043
Mark cut a lonely figure on the touch line this season after losing Ady.

Bottom line is that the league results weren’t good enough this year (not just this season, the last 9 months league form had been woeful) and DK has made a decision.

Mark and Ady were a double act; good cop / bad cop, encourager / disciplinarian, etc. we lost that “never say die” attitude once Ady left.

First mistake was letting Ady go. Second mistake was not bringing him back when things started to go wrong. It takes a bigger man to say “got that wrong” and DK couldn’t do that.

These are bad decisions IMO
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,044
It’s not a shock. It’s a shame because of his achievements but the time feels right. Always believed he could pull us out of slumps and get us to overachieve in the past but it just felt different this time so I think it’s the right decision.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,045
There's an emergency phone in on CWR with Clive and Oggy.

Normally I would laugh at that sentence...
 
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DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,046
Just really sad.

Hope that the new man will be a success and we push on to the next level.

Worry that this is the first move of a regular turnover of “underperforming” Managers, sorry - Head Coaches.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,047
bigfatronssba said:
But that wasn't the peak of his success

Robins built teams.

He didn't just come in and give a few rousing speeches to get crap players going well
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People also forget how much improvement individual players made in this league under him. Dom Hyam gone from free transfer in League 2 to a Championship regular stood out to me
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,048
bigfatronssba said:
Congratulations on missing the point as well.

We were 10th a month in. We'd lost 2 of our first 5 games.

We've seen expectant Championship clubs sack their managers for that sort of start
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We were in league two. You’re all over the place.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,049
Ring Of Steel said:
We were in league two. You’re all over the place.
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I thought you were ignoring me?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #1,050
Ring Of Steel said:
We were in league two. You’re all over the place.
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I'll humour you

"The start to the League 2 season was the best in our history. We were in the top 2 all season. It was the best time ever to be a city fan. The Robins era never topped that. Mark Robins is a League 2 genius"

Happy now?
 
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