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OFFICIAL: Mark Robins has been sacked (1 Viewer)

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Nick

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #806
Ring Of Steel said:
a very vocal minority thankfully. There is that at least, seeing how many see this as morally wrong.
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Why is it morally wrong?
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #807
Ring Of Steel said:
tbh you have your doubts about everything, one minute saying we should give him until Christmas, then saying we’re going down.
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He's not alone though, there's a lot on here who were saying it without saying it now acting surprised.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #808
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Playing like this no I don’t. I’ve also said the responsibility for it is shared between players, manager and owner.

Do feel free to point out where I called for the manager’s head though. I hold these players more responsible but they can’t be sacked.
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that’s the point, you were saying give him more time, but at the same time he’s going to get us relegated. Bit strange.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #809
Ring Of Steel said:
a very vocal minority thankfully. There is that at least, seeing how many see this as morally wrong.
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It is not morally wrong - grow up
 
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SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #810
Robins has been a true great for this club but as a tactician he has looked lost for months.

No firm commitment to what his strongest team is, baffling team selections and shape and utterly bereft of ideas during matches when things are going wrong.

An incredibly exciting and successful era under his management has ended but I do believe the time was right.

Attacking an ambitious owner who is prepared to invest is wrong and misguided at this stage.

I will judge him based on the success or failure of the new coach.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #811
TomRad85 said:
He's not alone though, there's a lot on here who were saying it without saying it now acting surprised.
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I don’t see how these things are mutually exclusive. I can think we’re on for a relegation battle while also supporting the manager to get us out of it.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #812
TomRad85 said:
He's not alone though, there's a lot on here who were saying it without saying it now acting surprised.
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true, just my view but I found that annoying, and pretty weak tbh.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #813
jordan210 said:
Maybe Robins wanted to leave and getting sacked got him a payout
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That's the problem we don't know what was said behind closed doors.

Perhaps, just speculating, Mark Robins lost his temper with Doug King.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #814
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t see too much to laugh about today, maybe it’s just me.
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I will laugh at people suggesting Doug King takes advice from web forums every single day of the year
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #815
Ring Of Steel said:
that’s the point, you were saying give him more time, but at the same time he’s going to get us relegated. Bit strange.
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He’s made mistakes. My bigger criticism has always been of the players and it was last night too.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #816
Jimmy Hill took a small unsuccessful club and brought them to the giddy heights of the fist division. He has a statue to remind us of those great times. There should have never been another contender for our best ever manager.


But there was.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #817
fernandopartridge said:
This is not turgid football, this is a team not putting away chances:

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I'm split over the decision but come on be honest the football has been generally terrible.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #818
Evo1883 said:
Thankfully after seeing the backlash all over social media , the robins out brigade were genuinley a minority and most of our support isn't morally bankrupt
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Only 8.6% voted Robins out in the previous poll.l tbf. It was always a vocal minority and everyone I know is gutted he’s gone.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #819
covcity4life said:
Robins kept the sisu model working. When robins decided to leave on his own accord we would be up shit creek as we were reliant on him.

Now at least we have a model that is sustainable wether you like it or not it's silly to say sisu days were better
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Sustain what? No good sustaining being crap.
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #820
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t see how these things are mutually exclusive. I can think we’re on for a relegation battle while also supporting the manager to get us out of it.
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I mean it doesn't matter, its not like anyone takes posts on this forum seriously. But there's a lot of fence straddlers in here.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #821
Well anyway- people have got what they wanted, no doubt they’re happy now- we already see the laughing emojis- let’s just hope they were right and we now rocket up the table. This will leave a bit of a bitter taste for a long time.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #822
I’m convinced King had lined up to sack robins after the Luton game which we unexpectedly won
 
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edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #823
Grendel said:
I have always said Robins is a very odd manager in that he seems to work best under an unstable and difficult ownership base.

He seems better at motivating and galvanising players who are not established at the level they are used to operating in and a "all together mentality"

The players now have left. He clearly is struggling to galvanise the signings over the last two years. A lot has been spent on players who cannot even get in the team and very few will realise the purchase value at resale let alone make more to spend on new recruits.

Its pretty obvious he has run his course and the ideas are becoming less. I suspect he worked better with a lower league set up and cannot adjust to modern football models.

Timing is odd, statement not that respectful but such is football.
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Completely agree with all of this. I think it's quite clear he can get lower calibre players playing above their level. But he is struggling with players who are apparently better than this level (if that make sense).
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #824
TomRad85 said:
I mean it doesn't matter, its not like anyone takes posts on this forum seriously. But there's a lot of fence straddlers in here.
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Obviously it doesn’t matter that much. Still it is a bit tiring to be misrepresented.

My view was always that MR was a factor in the bad performances, just not the biggest one.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #825
covcity4life said:
Robins kept the sisu model working. When robins decided to leave on his own accord we would be up shit creek as we were reliant on him.

Now at least we have a model that is sustainable wether you like it or not it's silly to say sisu days were better
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I'm not a King fan but arguably if he hadn't come in we'd have sold Vik and Hamer in January of the PO final season to fund losses.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #826
Ccfcisparks said:
I’m convinced King had lined up to sack robins after the Luton game which we unexpectedly won
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The timing is bizarre when we’d just won two games well. Would definitely suggest he’s been looking to do it for a while or that something happened last night that pushed it to breaking point.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #827
Ccfcisparks said:
I’m convinced King had lined up to sack robins after the Luton game which we unexpectedly won
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Rob gurney said that the wins against Luton and boro were an inconvenience to doug and he's probably right
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #828
shmmeee said:
Sustain what? No good sustaining being crap.
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You are being short sighted.

We have a talented young squad on the pitch and off it we hire analysists etc plus sorting training facilities out.

We're in a good position to kick on now and perhaps a new manager will get the best out of the squad this season let alone long term?
 
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edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #829
Calista said:
The club obviously monitors social media, and the constant shouty calls by a minority on here for Robins to go could easily have been misinterpreted as a groundswell of feeling among the fanbase.

Cheers guys.
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Seriously? Or maybe the shite form over the last 20 games or so?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #830
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The timing is bizarre when we’d just won two games well. Would definitely suggest he’s been looking to do it for a while or that something happened last night that pushed it to breaking point.
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It was probably the manor of the defeat and the performance.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #831
Grendel said:
I have always said Robins is a very odd manager in that he seems to work best under an unstable and difficult ownership base.

He seems better at motivating and galvanising players who are not established at the level they are used to operating in and a "all together mentality"

The players now have left. He clearly is struggling to galvanise the signings over the last two years. A lot has been spent on players who cannot even get in the team and very few will realise the purchase value at resale let alone make more to spend on new recruits.

Its pretty obvious he has run his course and the ideas are becoming less. I suspect he worked better with a lower league set up and cannot adjust to modern football models.

Timing is odd, statement not that respectful but such is football.
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One thing I would add is things don’t have to be mutually exclusive and you’re either on the side of King or Robins.

It’s possible all you’ve written is true but also that King has made too many changes and pissed everyone off.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #832
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The timing is bizarre when we’d just won two games well. Would definitely suggest he’s been looking to do it for a while or that something happened last night that pushed it to breaking point.
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If that's the case then why isn't there a replacement lined up immediately?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #833
covcity4life said:
You are being short sighted.

We have a talented young squad on the pitch and off it we hire analysists etc plus sorting training facilities out.

We're in a good position to kick on now and perhaps a new manager will get the best out of the squad this season let alone long term?
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The squad will still have the same frailties I feel , it's more about personel than tactics for me .

We need some signings in January regardless
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #834
Evo1883 said:
Rob gurney said that the wins against Luton and boro were an inconvenience to doug and he's probably right
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Almost certainly why he was not granted Saturday’s game.
 
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Cally Fedora

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #835
Two things will play out now which will be instructive. The job Robins goes to next and how we do under his replacement.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #836
If you are reading this Doug and get your advice from us.

I think we should have a free SBT corporate area where we get unlimited beers, access to make substitutions and to spin on office chairs during the game.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #837
Nick said:
This is a genuine question, how do you sack somebody nicely?
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With a big payout and a non-disclosure helps.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #838
Evo1883 said:
The squad will still have the same frailties I feel , it's more about personal than tactics for me .

We need some signings in January regardless
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We do need some signings but for me it's also a tactical issue

Whilst I'm fully aware a new manager may do worse with same squad I am also v open to the idea that someone else comes in and does better than robins was with them
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #839
Nick said:
If you are reading this Doug and get your advice from us.

I think we should have a free SBT corporate area where we get unlimited beers, access to make substitutions and to spin on office chairs during the game.
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And text a sub back for nick
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #840
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Obviously it doesn’t matter that much. Still it is a bit tiring to be misrepresented.

My view was always that MR was a factor in the bad performances, just not the biggest one.
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Eh, i seem to get lumped in with people that are 'happy' about this. I'm definitely not happy, i want us to be good. Under Robins would have been nice, but i certainly wasn't happy with the shite i was watching either, it was actually quite depressing, not to be dramatic about football.

There are people out there who can get better from this group of players. Lets hope we find one.
 
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