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skysblue

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #1
EDITOR’S COMMENT: Council leader losing ‘media war’ with Coventry City owners SISU
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #2
skysblue said:
EDITOR’S COMMENT: Council leader losing ‘media war’ with Coventry City owners SISU
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He's not wrong. The council have relied for a long time on PR and just saying 'but SISU'. Duggins has put his foot in it by repeatedly getting drawn into comment on specific things which allows SISU to come back at him on specific points, backed up with evidence, that the council have no response to.

Just look how often the Observer have put pretty basic questions to the council and they can't answer.

Was only a few weeks ago Duggins was saying he could do what he liked as nobody questioned him on it. Probably wishes he hadn't said that now!

See a lot of the fake twitter account have been shut down and even on the facebook group a lot of people have disappeared after being found out. They've had to resort to getting Italia in to post 50 times a day!
 
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better days

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #3
Sounds like a nasty piece of work
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #4
chiefdave said:
He's not wrong. The council have relied for a long time on PR and just saying 'but SISU'. Duggins has put his foot in it by repeatedly getting drawn into comment on specific things which allows SISU to come back at him on specific points, backed up with evidence, that the council have no response to.

Just look how often the Observer have put pretty basic questions to the council and they can't answer.

Was only a few weeks ago Duggins was saying he could do what he liked as nobody questioned him on it. Probably wishes he hadn't said that now!

See a lot of the fake twitter account have been shut down and even on the facebook group a lot of people have disappeared after being found out. They've had to resort to getting Italia in to post 50 times a day!
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Opened mouth, inserted foot. Tried to play the arrogant angle all along and now he's had it blow up on him, and rightly so.

Les Reid has it right on this.
 

Calista

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #5
I agree with Les Reid here – “the council and Wasps should sit down, talk and work to keep Coventry City in Coventry for next season”.

There are many ways to look at the history behind all this, but I mostly identify far more with the Council’s stance than SISU’s. It’s not just Duggins is it? Some seem to believe paid officers and elected Councillors of all parties and have been waging an unfair war on CCFC for decades, which is hard to buy.

But the Council has to honour its commitment that the football club wouldn’t be threatened by the sale to Wasps. We should be allowed to keep playing at the Ricoh on sensible terms, and unfortunately at present that still means dealing with SISU. Since the Council (and Wasps) believe they are in the right, they should continue to defend themselves in court against whatever cases SISU have a legal right to bring up. It’s a frustrating load of bollocks (and depressingly it seems to be largely about Seppala’s personal pride) but anything is better than leaving the city again.

Either SISU are right about the Wasps sale or they are not – so where are their principles in saying they will drop legal action if the council helps them build another stadium?! If they want to progress the idea, they can put in an outline planning application which needn’t cost very much and doesn’t require any agreements on land purchase. That will test whether it’s likely to be acceptable in planning terms (my guess is not, even if that western link road is ever built). I really don’t see why the City Council should spend millions on infrastructure to help a second big stadium, because IMO the one we have already got needs two thriving sports clubs to make it viable. So another stadium is at best several years away, and more likely a fantasy.

If I thought a season (or two) playing somewhere else would lead to a change of ownership and a glorious return, I’d be up for it. But CCFC being taken hostage again (or being wrongly forced into exile if you see it that way) could be for many years this time, which would kill the club in all but name. We can’t fall victim to yet another unforgiveable blunder, we simply have to play in Coventry.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #6
Thanks to Duggins my house hold won’t be voting labour in the local elections. That’ll show him!

Joking aside, how many more people won’t be voting labour thanks to Duggins?
 
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The Great Eastern

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  • Apr 14, 2019
  • #7
CCFC54321 said:
Thanks to Duggins my house hold won’t be voting labour in the local elections. That’ll show him!

Joking aside, how many more people won’t be voting labour thanks to Duggins?
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Well, I live in Norwich so I wont be voting for Duggins.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 15, 2019
  • #8
Calista said:
I agree with Les Reid here – “the council and Wasps should sit down, talk and work to keep Coventry City in Coventry for next season”.

There are many ways to look at the history behind all this, but I mostly identify far more with the Council’s stance than SISU’s. It’s not just Duggins is it? Some seem to believe paid officers and elected Councillors of all parties and have been waging an unfair war on CCFC for decades, which is hard to buy.

But the Council has to honour its commitment that the football club wouldn’t be threatened by the sale to Wasps. We should be allowed to keep playing at the Ricoh on sensible terms, and unfortunately at present that still means dealing with SISU. Since the Council (and Wasps) believe they are in the right, they should continue to defend themselves in court against whatever cases SISU have a legal right to bring up. It’s a frustrating load of bollocks (and depressingly it seems to be largely about Seppala’s personal pride) but anything is better than leaving the city again.

Either SISU are right about the Wasps sale or they are not – so where are their principles in saying they will drop legal action if the council helps them build another stadium?! If they want to progress the idea, they can put in an outline planning application which needn’t cost very much and doesn’t require any agreements on land purchase. That will test whether it’s likely to be acceptable in planning terms (my guess is not, even if that western link road is ever built). I really don’t see why the City Council should spend millions on infrastructure to help a second big stadium, because IMO the one we have already got needs two thriving sports clubs to make it viable. So another stadium is at best several years away, and more likely a fantasy.

If I thought a season (or two) playing somewhere else would lead to a change of ownership and a glorious return, I’d be up for it. But CCFC being taken hostage again (or being wrongly forced into exile if you see it that way) could be for many years this time, which would kill the club in all but name. We can’t fall victim to yet another unforgiveable blunder, we simply have to play in Coventry.
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