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O hare doesn’t flatter to deceive (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 6, 2021
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #281
fernandopartridge said:
Lol, the problem with O'Hare (most tackles in the opposition to half and most fouled player) is physicality
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How does that effect his end product ? Shooting etc ?
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #282
Is he the only player where you can point a finger at regards an end product, I don’t think so.
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #283
slowpoke said:
Is he the only player where you can point a finger at regards an end product, I don’t think so.
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He’s a creative attacking player lol he’s got stats that look like he plays at left back
 

lordy_87

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #284
Grendel said:
John Fleck played at that level
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Not being funny or anything Grendel but are you his Grandad or something? I love O'Hare but I can see why people are massively frustrated with him and I'm increasingly starting to agree with them. You will happily criticise pretty much every player in our team but you constantly bend over backwards to defend O'Hare, just seems a bit strange for you. And no, I don't want him dropped, but can understand the opinion of others because in front of goal he is frankly embarrassing.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #285
cc84cov said:
He’s a creative attacking player lol he’s got stats that look like he plays at left back
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So your answer is ?
 
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CovBrummie94

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #286
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
The Dabo at CDM wasnt my point but I thought it was worth a try, but Im sure it is now with Kane and Maatsen and then a lack of Creativity with Sheaf and Kelly
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What about Dabo's game makes you think he'd be good in midfield?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #287
Did I just seen Dabo at CDM get mentioned?!

The lad couldn't complete a pass at centre half, let alone in midfield!
 
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SheafIsGod

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #288
I’d take any offer for him in January, cash in a small amount, and replace him. Make him another teams problem.

At the end of the day he simply doesn’t do enough in the final third. I genuinely hope he comes good and learns how to play a final ball or finish, but I just can’t see it.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #289
SheafIsGod said:
I’d take any offer for him in January, cash in a small amount, and replace him. Make him another teams problem.

At the end of the day he simply doesn’t do enough in the final third. I genuinely hope he comes good and learns how to play a final ball or finish, but I just can’t see it.
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Yes he's a massive problem for the team...

So, who would you get in on a free transfer to replace him?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #290
SheafIsGod said:
I’d take any offer for him in January, cash in a small amount, and replace him. Make him another teams problem.

At the end of the day he simply doesn’t do enough in the final third. I genuinely hope he comes good and learns how to play a final ball or finish, but I just can’t see it.
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Let me guess, you'd send him on loan too?
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #291
pusbccfc said:
Did I just seen Dabo at CDM get mentioned?!

The lad couldn't complete a pass at centre half, let alone in midfield!
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Yep @Magwitch1 said it & then changed account to @slowpoke
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #292
SheafIsGod said:
I’d take any offer for him in January, cash in a small amount, and replace him. Make him another teams problem.

At the end of the day he simply doesn’t do enough in the final third. I genuinely hope he comes good and learns how to play a final ball or finish, but I just can’t see it.
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Hmmm, new member, WUM straight away, I wonder who this might be…
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #293
pusbccfc said:


Let me guess, you'd send him on loan too?
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If offered good money to fund a promotion push I’m sure most on here would be ok with that
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #294
cc84cov said:
If offered good money to fund a promotion push I’m sure most on here would be ok with that
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What's good money though? I'd want serious money for him. Not the couple £m we have taken for Maddison and Wilson in the past.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #295
cc84cov said:
If offered good money to fund a promotion push I’m sure most on here would be ok with that
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What utter bollocks you talk
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #296
Ccfcisparks said:
What utter bollocks you talk
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You wouldn’t take £5m+ ? I know the club would
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #297
cc84cov said:
You wouldn’t take £5m+ ? I know the club would
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Glad we have insider knowledge from you. The same insider knowledge that said we had signed Patterson
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #298
Ccfcisparks said:
Glad we have insider knowledge from you. The same insider knowledge that said we had signed Patterson
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Thought you would swerve that
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #299
cc84cov said:
You wouldn’t take £5m+ ? I know the club would
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The owners would take £5 million I’m sure for any player and hand back 20% to spend
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #300
The only way we should is if we have a replacement.

Granted, he pisses me off but you don't get rid unless there's somebody there to step in (or we have a ready made change of formation which I doubt).
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #301
No Premier League club would make a bid for him at the moment and we wouldn't sell to one of our competitors
 
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CovBrummie94

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #302
Deleted member 9744 said:
No Premier League club would make a bid for him at the moment and we wouldn't sell to one of our competitors
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I’m pretty sure for the right price we would sell to a team around us in the table.


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cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #303
Grendel said:
The owners would take £5 million I’m sure for any player and hand back 20% to spend
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They would take 2-3m I think
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #304
cc84cov said:
They would take 2-3m I think
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Yeah right...
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #305
Ccfcisparks said:
Yeah right...
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Of course they will,an offer like that comes in he’s gone...

It won’t though
 

Calista

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #306
fernandopartridge said:
He didn't, he didn't even break through until he was 17 and that was in be League 1. Given that he takes free kicks and corners you'd expect his goals and assists to be naturally better but O'Hare's assist record stands up well to Maddison at Championship level.

It's a farcical comparison in any case, remember Norwich paid a multi million pound fee for Maddison who is an exceptional talent, we got O'Hare on a free.
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Not familiar with how those stats are presented, but if I've got it right they show that at Championship level Maddison scored or assisted every two games, whereas for O'Hare it's four and a half games. And Maddison has gone on to deliver similar results in the Prem - it's what you'd expect, given the outstanding ability he showed the moment he got in our first team.

They both have superb close control, and O'Hare easily wins on workrate and closing people down, but there is simply no comparison in speed of thought, or ability to pass and shoot.

I would still have O'Hare in the starting lineup every time, but we badly need a midfielder with a goal threat. Jodi is a very good player, and might just provide that.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 13, 2021
  • #307
Isn’t O’Hare’s best stat getting fouled ? I’m expecting a mass bidding war off all all these top clubs in January
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #308
Is it not feasible at some point for MR to play both Jones and O'Hare behind a lone striker (Gyokeres preferably)? I think its a given that Jones would prove a more clininical finisher than O'Hare, but as others have pointed out the team would miss O'Hare's energy if he was missing. What O'Hare provides is a constant outlet for a pass, regardless of whether he is being marked, and the ability to take oppostion markers out of the game with his tight dribbling skills. He is also essential to our pressing game. His confidence in front of goal is clearly lacking at the moment, but hopefully he can get a couple of lucky breaks to build up his confidence and chip in with the goals his play warrants.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #309
cc84cov said:
Isn’t O’Hare’s best stat getting fouled ? I’m expecting a mass bidding war off all all these top clubs in January
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What top clubs ?
 

the rumpo kid

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #310
I haven't read the whole thread but I'm going to chip in anyway,
If Callum O'Hare is fit he starts. He far to important for us to leave out, goals or not. When opposition are putting two men on him it has to leave one of ours free. When he goes past people he's more often than not fouled winning us free kicks which again creates chances for others. He makes space for himself and others, runs and runs when other give up, closes down , and even if he's not having a good game opposition are always worried about him.
We all know he should score more, but so should the whole midfield , and I think this is just nit picking because he is such a good player, we want more from him.
KEEP GOING CALLUM .
 
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Hutch11

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #311
cc84cov said:
Isn’t O’Hare’s best stat getting fouled ? I’m expecting a mass bidding war off all all these top clubs in January
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We're expecting you might post something relevant and interesting but January might be too soon a target
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #312
slowpoke said:
What top clubs ?
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Exactly
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #313
cc84cov said:
Exactly
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Who has said top clubs will come in for him?
Almost everyone is saying the opposite, that it won't happen while his end product is poor. That doesn't mean he's not a very important performer for us.

You've had it in for him since he was in L1, since then he's played a major part in getting us promoted, surviving in our first season back and now pushing for the playoffs. Your dislike of him is really peculiar
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #314
the rumpo kid said:
I haven't read the whole thread but I'm going to chip in anyway,
If Callum O'Hare is fit he starts. He far to important for us to leave out, goals or not. When opposition are putting two men on him it has to leave one of ours free. When he goes past people he's more often than not fouled winning us free kicks which again creates chances for others. He makes space for himself and others, runs and runs when other give up, closes down , and even if he's not having a good game opposition are always worried about him.
We all know he should score more, but so should the whole midfield , and I think this is just nit picking because he is such a good player, we want more from him.
KEEP GOING CALLUM .
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In recent weeks his whole game has gone off the boil, hes even losing the ball and not winning the tackles he used to, theres alack of confidence there.

And not co incidence hes been substituted regularly recently where as that wouldnt have even been option to substitute him.
 
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SheafIsGod

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  • Dec 14, 2021
  • #315
I would love to see Hamer in O’Hare’s role with Sheaf and Kelly behind. Just for a few games to see if it works.

Robins is extremely set in his ways though so it’ll never happen.
 
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