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O hare doesn’t flatter to deceive (1 Viewer)

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Jamesimus

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #246
cc84cov said:
How much we expecting in jan for our “star player” O’Hare ?
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You, of all the people on here, are NOT ALLOWED to use quotation marks in a mocking manner.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #247
The negative comments about CoH are utterly embarrassing, he’s one of if not our best player.
I’m sure one of the posters slagging him off was not long ago going on about Kelly being ‘captain fantastic’ ffs.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #248
Sick Boy said:
The negative comments about CoH are utterly embarrassing, he’s one of if not our best player.
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He’s 100% our best player. He’s pretty much undroppable.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #249
Ccfcisparks said:
Here’s hoping
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which means we've got a striker with 7 in 9 on the bench, why would you sell that sort of strength in depth?
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #250
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Spot the odd one out

Dabo is worth a try in attacking midfield
Dabo at CB on merit
Dabo would be a good fit at CDM
Sell Godden in January
Austrian Covid rules are 'like Hitler never left'
Opposition teams will let O'Hare shoot because it's less dangerous
O'Hare should be loaned out in January
Wilson isn't saving enough penalties
Shouldn't sign Sheaf because he smiled in an Arsenal training session
Biamou is the best athlete at the club
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The Dabo at CDM wasnt my point but I thought it was worth a try, but Im sure it is now with Kane and Maatsen and then a lack of Creativity with Sheaf and Kelly
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #251
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s 100% our best player. He’s pretty much undroppable.
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Yeah there’s a good reason why he’s played every game since he’s been here.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #252
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
The Dabo at CDM wasnt my point but I thought it was worth a try, but Im sure it is now with Kane and Maatsen and then a lack of Creativity with Sheaf and Kelly
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Round pegs in round holes
 

stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #253
Evo1883 said:
The team probably does have more balance that way .. but I've NEVER known supporters ro moan about a striker who scored 8 in 15 Irrespective of how they are scored
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I believe that of those 15 appearances, only 10 were starts. Hate strikers who only bring prolific goal scoring to the team.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #254
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There are a few people who have form for general footballing nonsense

Yourself
Paxman
Magwitch
Me

Others get rumbled when they wander across from Off Topic
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fernandopartridge said:
We'll be able to sell him now bright is in the team and storming the league
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Jones about to take the throne
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #255
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s scored 3 penalties which significantly skews the data
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Good job he scored those three because the big Swede in our side missed his.
 

stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #256
pusbccfc said:
Good job he scored those three because the big Swede in our side missed his.
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Didn’t he win two of the three penalties he scored? Perhaps we add earning penalties to the list of things he does. Unacceptable contribution for a striker. And don’t get me started on goalkeepers who do nothing but stop goals going in
 
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South West Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #257
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s 100% our best player. He’s pretty much undroppable.
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I agree. He is undroppable. However part of that is coz there is no replacement for the way he plays the game and the type of high energy football we play. The nearest is Allen or JJ. Neither of them are near his level.
He’s been my favourite player for 18 months (sound like a member of the JSB now- I was in the early 90s). However sometimes feel someone pushing him for his squad place or resting him could push his game further on.
I think I’d give my left nut for him to sign a new contract on a 20% pay increase.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #258
Jamesimus said:
You, of all the people on here, are NOT ALLOWED to use quotation marks in a mocking manner.
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£30m ?
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #259
Watching Maddison assisting and scoring for the sister fingerers really makes you realise how much O'hare has to do if he ever wants to play at a higher level.
 
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Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #260
Greggs said:
Watching Maddison assisting and scoring for the sister fingerers really makes you realise how much O'hare has to do if he ever wants to play at a higher level.
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And Conor Gallagher netting a brace second one was sublime
he's only 21 aswell, some talent he's going to be.

As much as I love O'hare he does need to up his end product.....PUSB
 
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procdoc

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #261
Bugsy said:
And Conor Gallagher netting a brace second one was sublime
he's only 21 aswell, some talent he's going to be.

As much as I love O'hare he does need to up his end product.....PUSB
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Gallagher will be starting for Chelsea next season, quality player
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #262
Greggs said:
Watching Maddison assisting and scoring for the sister fingerers really makes you realise how much O'hare has to do if he ever wants to play at a higher level.
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I don't think he'll ever get to that level, but there's a huge gap between where we are and where they are.
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #263
Bugsy said:
And Conor Gallagher netting a brace second one was sublime
he's only 21 aswell, some talent he's going to be.

As much as I love O'hare he does need to up his end product.....PUSB
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Lot of young players grow up wanting to play that position I guess, it's a glamour role. As much as I like Callum, he isn't irreplaceable.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #264
Greggs said:
Watching Maddison assisting and scoring for the sister fingerers really makes you realise how much O'hare has to do if he ever wants to play at a higher level.
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John Fleck played at that level
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #265
Greggs said:
Watching Maddison assisting and scoring for the sister fingerers really makes you realise how much O'hare has to do if he ever wants to play at a higher level.
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Grendel said Maddison was shit and loves O’Hare
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #266
Maddison had end product at 16 what O’Hare isn’t close to yet
 
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Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #267
Grendel said:
John Fleck played at that level
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You're usually sharp, this was shit.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #268
cc84cov said:
Maddison had end product at 16 what O’Hare isn’t close to yet
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He didn't, he didn't even break through until he was 17 and that was in be League 1. Given that he takes free kicks and corners you'd expect his goals and assists to be naturally better but O'Hare's assist record stands up well to Maddison at Championship level.

It's a farcical comparison in any case, remember Norwich paid a multi million pound fee for Maddison who is an exceptional talent, we got O'Hare on a free.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #269
cc84cov said:
Maddison had end product at 16 what O’Hare isn’t close to yet
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Easy to say as it seems you didn’t comment on him at all until he started in the premiership - in fact most of your posts compare him to Sam mccallum and that mccallum will be worth at least as much

PSG wanted it seems to sign him at one point - Mcallum that is
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #270
Grendel said:
Easy to say as it seems you didn’t comment on him at all until he started in the premiership - in fact most of your posts compare him to Sam mccallum and that mccallum will be worth at least as much

PSG wanted it seems to sign him at one point - Mcallum that is
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He's had it in for O'Hare since L1. His desire for him to fail is weird and his opinions of him not based in any sort of provable analysis.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #271
clint van damme said:
He's had it in for O'Hare since L1. His desire for him to fail is weird and his opinions of him not based in any sort of provable analysis.
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Just an utter bollocks comparison. In terms of actual output Maddison was fairly underwhelming for us.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #272
procdoc said:
Gallagher will be starting for Chelsea next season, quality player
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He looks a great player but there's some massive competition in Chelsea's midfield
 

Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #273
cc84cov said:
Maddison had end product at 16 what O’Hare isn’t close to yet
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Completely different type of player.

What I would like to see is another attacking midfielder with a little more guile and shooting ability, in a similar mould to Maddison, playing alongside O'Hare when we play 1 up top.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #274
Jamesimus said:
Completely different type of player.

What I would like to see is another attacking midfielder with a little more guile and shooting ability, in a similar mould to Maddison, playing alongside O'Hare when we play 1 up top.
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Jodi Jones
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #275
If finishing is the problem I know Luke Thomas isn't the answer.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #276
Maddison was bang average for Cov once his move went through.
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #277
The problem O'Hare has is physicality. he needs to make that up it other attributes. his finishing is woeful and decision making from great positions he gets into sometimes baffling. He is going to be a player who can frustrate and thrill fans in equal measure. he helps create much of our game but sometimes that can be one dimensional after a while and I'd like to see him turn and run at defenders instead of pausing to look up in bewilderment looking for a pass to make.
He still has the energy of a tiger and brings much to the team, but not by any means undroppable as his influence on games decreases.
While jones is capable of the number 10 roll it brings a different approach for the team. What Jones does bring is a goal threat and that's why I believe O'Hare will get rested at some point soon and be that impact sub we often saw during his early spell with us on loan, when he was mighty effective.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #278
Is rested just a nicer word than dropped ?
For me Callum O’Hare is first name on the team sheet always puts a shift in and a handful for defenders creates space for team mates. My answer, get better players with him starting January, Jodie Jones is one.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #279
Paxman II said:
The problem O'Hare has is physicality. he needs to make that up it other attributes. his finishing is woeful and decision making from great positions he gets into sometimes baffling. He is going to be a player who can frustrate and thrill fans in equal measure. he helps create much of our game but sometimes that can be one dimensional after a while and I'd like to see him turn and run at defenders instead of pausing to look up in bewilderment looking for a pass to make.
He still has the energy of a tiger and brings much to the team, but not by any means undroppable as his influence on games decreases.
While jones is capable of the number 10 roll it brings a different approach for the team. What Jones does bring is a goal threat and that's why I believe O'Hare will get rested at some point soon and be that impact sub we often saw during his early spell with us on loan, when he was mighty effective.
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Lol, the problem with O'Hare (most tackles in the opposition to half and most fouled player) is physicality
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2021
  • #280
fernandopartridge said:
Lol, the problem with O'Hare (most tackles in the opposition to half and most fouled player) is physicality
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Pretty sure he is the fittest player we have.
 
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