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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #71
pusbccfc said:
Totally disagree with this. That's the slowest forward 3 I've ever seen in my life. We need to get rid of one of the four strikers. All too similar.
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maybe Waghorn in coh position
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #72
covboy9 said:
perfect game for walker
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He should have been on with 40 minutes to go. He's hardly quick though is he?
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #73
covboy9 said:
maybe Waghorn in coh position
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Play Allen there with either sheaf or kelly next to hamer
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #74
pusbccfc said:
He should have been on with 40 minutes to go. He's hardly quick though is he?
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quicker than Godden and I’d tell him to play on the shoulder close to vik
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #75
pusbccfc said:
Fleck was a second striker in the early stages of his career. Coventry dropped him deeper.

O'Hare is nowhere near as good at passing as Fleck, but that's what Hamer is for.
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Yes and unless we are planning to drop O’Hare deeper I’m not sure what the comparison is about. He plays behind the two strikers
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #76
cc84cov said:
Play Allen there with either sheaf or kelly next to hamer
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maybe, does Allen have the quality ?
 
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CovBrummie94

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #77
pusbccfc said:
Totally disagree with this. That's the slowest forward 3 I've ever seen in my life. We need to get rid of one of the four strikers. All too similar.
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Saw enough from Walker and Gyokores against Preston to think they could work well together. Don’t think Waghorn offers much of a goal threat but his link up play is good. O’Hare is one of our best players but really needs a rest. Maybe Allen could come in with Sheaf and Hamer playing deep but I do think Allen is better running from deep in a midfield 2. We’re getting a bit desperate at CAM and need to try something else.


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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #78
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes and unless we are planning to drop O’Hare deeper I’m not sure what the comparison is about. He plays behind the two strikers
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If you had a better attacking midfielder, who can score and has a bit of pace. You could play 5-3-1-1.

Or you play 5-3-2-1 with O'Hare further forward.

The issue I have is relying on O'Hare behind the strikers. He's never going to score goals.

I know it's completely different, but look at Cov sides in the last 10 years, you could always rely on someone like Shipley, Baker, Moussa, Murphy etc to chip it. O'Hare will unlikely get 2 goals this season.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #79
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes and unless we are planning to drop O’Hare deeper I’m not sure what the comparison is about. He plays behind the two strikers
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If you had a better attacking midfielder, who can score and has a bit of pace. You could play 5-3-1-1.

Or you play 5-3-2-1 with O'Hare further forward.

The issue I have is relying on O'Hare behind the strikers. He's never going to score goals.

I know it's completely different, but look at Cov sides in the last 10 years, you could always rely on someone like Shipley, Baker, Moussa, Murphy etc to chip in. O'Hare will unlikely get 2 goals this season.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #80
CovBrummie94 said:
Saw enough from Walker and Gyokores against Preston to think they could work well together. Don’t think Waghorn offers much of a goal threat but his link up play is good. O’Hare is one of our best players but really needs a rest. Maybe Allen could come in with Sheaf and Hamer playing deep but I do think Allen is better running from deep in a midfield 2. We’re getting a bit desperate at CAM and need to try something else.


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Waghorn and Gyökeres is comfortably the best two but he's clearly struggled with Covid and injury.

Godden and Walker scoring goals has also tempted Robins away from him.
 

larry_david

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #81
Do we bring Shipley back into the fold? Free role in o hare place? For all his faults he'd prob be on 2-3 goals already
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #82
larry_david said:
Do we bring Shipley back into the fold? Free role in o hare place? For all his faults he'd prob be on 2-3 goals already
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No chance of that. It’s up to Jones until January
 
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larry_david

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #83
SlowerThanPlatt said:
No chance of that. It’s up to Jones until January
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Yep I'm clutching I know
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #84
Grendel said:
O hare is a box to box player - he’s not dissimilar to fleck who scored 20 goals to date in his whole career - he’s not a number 10
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Very odd take. And one that sounds more like you’re making an excuse for a player you’ve backed to the hilt for not chipping in with his fair share of goal contributions.


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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #85
covboy9 said:
maybe, does Allen have the quality ?
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No
 
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Jamieb87ccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #86
larry_david said:
He's older than Shipley I think.
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He’s younger than Shipley by a year, he’s 23
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #87
covboy9 said:
maybe, does Allen have the quality ?
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Interested to hear the stats between the 2 tho
 
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CovBrummie94

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #88
pusbccfc said:
Waghorn and Gyökeres is comfortably the best two but he's clearly struggled with Covid and injury.

Godden and Walker scoring goals has also tempted Robins away from him.
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No disputing that those 2 are our best front 2, but if we’re talking about resting COH, my original post is what I’d like to see even if just for 1 game


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larry_david

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #89
Jamieb87ccfc said:
He’s younger than Shipley by a year, he’s 23
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Fair.
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #90
Regardless O’Hare will start Saturday and so on
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #91
Hamer, Kelly and Allen for me Saturday.

Love o’hare but his ability to finish is concerning and holding him/us back.

If he is in the side to assist/score then it’s not quite working now. If he’s in the side for his work rate then he stays in but he looked knackered last night.

Perhaps robins goes one up front and a four in centre midfield?
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #92
Some people think O’Hare is the best thing since slice bread,was the same with Bayliss
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #93
Warthog said:
christ
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You sound like the walloper who sits behind me
 
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CDK

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #94
CCFC54321 said:
Hamer, Kelly and Allen for me Saturday.

Love o’hare but his ability to finish is concerning and holding him/us back.

If he is in the side to assist/score then it’s not quite working now. If he’s in the side for his work rate then he stays in but he looked knackered last night.

Perhaps robins goes one up front and a four in centre midfield?
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I think that's the way to go.
 

Greggs

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #95
pusbccfc said:
Or you have a quicker striker with Gyökeres.

We have absolutely no pace going forward. A quick striker would have had a field day in behind that Swansea defence.
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Do you perhaps think they defended that high because they knew we had no pace? I doubt they would use the exact same style or tactic against a team with quick forwards. Just a thought.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #96
Haven't read the thread, but there is an International break after Bristol = rest. O'Hare's work rate was immense again, but his composure was lacking, and that shot was ...frustrating. However not long ago we had Callum Reilly. I know who I'd rather have.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #97
Greggs said:
Do you perhaps think they defended that high because they knew we had no pace? I doubt they would use the exact same style or tactic against a team with quick forwards. Just a thought.
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1000%. It was so easy for them.

Even when Jodi came on, we played him too deep. Maatsen stayed up top from their corners. He should have gambled and played up further forward to break their high line.
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #98
pusbccfc said:
1000%. It was so easy for them.

Even when Jodi came on, we played him too deep. Maatsen stayed up top from their corners. He should have gambled and played up further forward to break their high line.
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Godden looks so slow
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #99
CCFC54321 said:
Hamer, Kelly and Allen for me Saturday.

Love o’hare but his ability to finish is concerning and holding him/us back.

If he is in the side to assist/score then it’s not quite working now. If he’s in the side for his work rate then he stays in but he looked knackered last night.

Perhaps robins goes one up front and a four in centre midfield?
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Kelly would have been tore to shreds last night had he played.

Also, O'Hare has 3 assists. More than Hamer, Maatsen and Allen.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #100
cc84cov said:
Godden looks so slow
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Always has been. It was so painful watching him last night.
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #101
pusbccfc said:
Always has been. It was so painful watching him last night.
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League 1 I can’t ever remember ever thinking he was slow at this level he looks so slow
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #102
Yes he’s in need of a rest but there’s no way you can drop him, as alternatives are considerably weaker. Allen isn’t good enough to play 10 considering the amount of ball COH sees, and Jones is nowhere near (whether that’s temporary or permanent remains to be seen).

Other than his inability to score, any negative talk around COH is ridiculous. He’s by far our biggest spark and his ability to receive the ball and run between the lines is second to none. Perhaps if Gyokeres has scored one of his two sitters last night, or Goddens final ball has been better we wouldn’t be talking about this.

Re Paterson, it’s ridiculous we didn’t sign him. Very much an MR fan (I would say who isn’t, but the MR out narrative will start soon enough), but not getting him in was a bad call. People saying he wanted guarantees - where have you heard that from?
 
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Garryb80

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #103
Great_Expectations said:
Yes he’s in need of a rest but there’s no way you can drop him, as alternatives are considerably weaker. Allen isn’t good enough to play 10 considering the amount of ball COH sees, and Jones is nowhere near (whether that’s temporary or permanent remains to be seen).

Other than his inability to score, any negative talk around COH is ridiculous. He’s by far our biggest spark and his ability to receive the ball and run between the lines is second to none. Perhaps if Gyokeres has scored one of his two sitters last night, or Goddens final ball has been better we wouldn’t be talking about this.

Re Paterson, it’s ridiculous we didn’t sign him. Very much an MR fan (I would say who isn’t, but the MR out narrative will start soon enough), but not getting him in was a bad call. People saying he wanted guarantees - where have you heard that from?
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Perhaps if ohare had shot instead of passed to the keeper and not given the ball away countless times in threatening positions we might not be talking about this
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #104
letsallsingtogether said:
Had a cracking game today.
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He did, and it turns out he’s having an injury free season (like Walsh did for us)

with hindsight should we have paid the money? Yes! But ultimately he wanted first team guarentees, probably wanted a significant wage and had been off the back of an injury hit few years.

Theres no way we should have took that risk back in July. Fair play to him though. Showing what a player he is when 100% fit
 

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Nov 3, 2021
  • #105
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
He did, and it turns out he’s having an injury free season (like Walsh did for us)

with hindsight should we have paid the money? Yes! But ultimately he wanted first team guarentees, probably wanted a significant wage and had been off the back of an injury hit few years.

Theres no way we should have took that risk back in July. Fair play to him though. Showing what a player he is when 100% fit
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I know you’re not the one saying this , but if bright was worth the risk , surely He was?!
 
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