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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #36
Our big problem now is that our two best players are in desperate need of a rest, and we’re not playing well with them in the team at the moment, but if we take them both out we’ll probably be even worse.
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #37
cc84cov said:
If a player ever needed a rest it’s him
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Gyokeres if anyone I think
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #38
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Our big problem now is that our two best players are in desperate need of a rest, and we’re not playing well with them in the team at the moment, but if we take them both out we’ll probably be even worse.
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vik yes

coh isn’t one of our two best players, he’s not improving unfortunately
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #39
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
Gyokeres if anyone I think
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After Blackburn he needed it someone said he hasn’t scored in 6 wonder if that’s when Waghorn went out of the team ? He’s far better next to Waghorn
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #40
covboy9 said:
vik yes

coh isn’t one of our two best players, he’s not improving unfortunately
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2 & half years waiting for end product how old is he now ? People talk like he’s 18
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #41
cc84cov said:
After Blackburn he needed it someone said he hasn’t scored in 6 wonder if that’s when Waghorn went out of the team ? He’s far better next to Waghorn
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Agreed, but I think he just had an exceptional first few games of the season and will struggle to get back to that form (like hamer last year)
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #42
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
No way should any player be given nor should they be demanding guarantees of first team football. If that’s the case we made the right decision.

Paterson’s injury record was too much to gamble on given the wage he was likely to command. As it’s been the guy has been fit all season. It’s paid off for him and Swansea
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Had a cracking game today.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #43
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
Agreed, but I think he just had an exceptional first few games of the season and will struggle to get back to that form (like hamer last year)
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People know about Gyo now but he’s a lot better with Waghorn next to him for sure
 
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larry_david

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #44
cc84cov said:
2 & half years waiting for end product how old is he now ? People talk like he’s 18
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He's older than Shipley I think.
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #45
He definitely needs a rest, but we have no replacement at all, so will continue to play.


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cc84cov

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #46
larry_david said:
He's older than Shipley I think.
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Do we suddenly see him becoming composed with end product ? Everything is 100mph just needs to slow it at that crucial moment
 

larry_david

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #47
cc84cov said:
Do we suddenly see him becoming composed with end product ? Everything is 100mph just needs to slow it at that crucial moment
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Nope because to me, his heads gone. I think he now does that thing I used to do in Sunday league and make sure I'm not anywhere near on goal, for fear of missing
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #48
cc84cov said:
People know about Gyo now but he’s a lot better with Waghorn next to him for sure
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I’m not so sure, I think vik and walker could work, I see why Godden plays cos he’s our best finisher

I don’t think walker and rose are getting a fair shake atm

Ohare needs some bench time we need a plan b, can we not play 3-5-2 with three defensive midfielders? We need someone to play infront of the defensive two midfielders but not necessarily a number 10 just a midfielder that can score
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #49
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Our big problem now is that our two best players are in desperate need of a rest, and we’re not playing well with them in the team at the moment, but if we take them both out we’ll probably be even worse.
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Yes that’s it in a nutshell
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #50
Bloke is our only attacking midfielder. The pressure is on him. He's been knackered for weeks.

No other side in this division has one attacking midfielder who they rely on. No wonder he's been poor for weeks.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #51
He really, really (REALLY) needs to start chipping in with the goods now though.
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #52
pusbccfc said:
Bloke is our only attacking midfielder. The pressure is on him. He's been knackered for weeks.

No other side in this division has one attacking midfielder who they rely on. No wonder he's been poor for weeks.
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fair comment

but no goals or assists isn’t an attacking midfielder

send him to left wing back
 

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #53
pusbccfc said:
Bloke is our only attacking midfielder. The pressure is on him. He's been knackered for weeks.

No other side in this division has one attacking midfielder who they rely on. No wonder he's been poor for weeks.
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I might get slaughtered for this , but I think using godden at number 10 and walker and gyok up front could actually work
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #54
larry_david said:
Nope because to me, his heads gone. I think he now does that thing I used to do in Sunday league and make sure I'm not anywhere near on goal, for fear of missing
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O hare is a box to box player - he’s not dissimilar to fleck who scored 20 goals to date in his whole career - he’s not a number 10
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #55
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'd give Jones more time off the bench to give O'Hare a rest. Not exactly the same player but more of a goal threat and we need to give him time to see if he can get up to speed in this division or not.
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Jones is not good enough. Robins knows that too.

He gambled on Bright being the back up and it failed.
 

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #56
Grendel said:
O hare is a box to box player - he’s not dissimilar to fleck who scored 20 goals to date in his whole career - he’s not a number 10
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The difference is o’hare cannot defend
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #57
covboy9 said:
fair comment

but no goals or assists isn’t an attacking midfielder

send him to left wing back
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He's had 3 assists this season and he's been involved in 2/3 other goals.

Maybe if we had another attacking midfielder we'd not notice his lack of goals as much.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #58
Grendel said:
O hare is a box to box player - he’s not dissimilar to fleck who scored 20 goals to date in his whole career - he’s not a number 10
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Spot on.

Ideally you'd have him deeper and then have a quicker, goalscoring attacking behind Gyökeres.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #59
Grendel said:
O hare is a box to box player - he’s not dissimilar to fleck who scored 20 goals to date in his whole career - he’s not a number 10
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Really? He’s nothing like Fleck who used to play deep
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #60
pusbccfc said:
He's had 3 assists this season and he's been involved in 2/3 other goals.

Maybe if we had another attacking midfielder we'd not notice his lack of goals as much.
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a number 10 and 2 strikers is already pushing the boat out
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #61
Grendel said:
O hare is a box to box player - he’s not dissimilar to fleck who scored 20 goals to date in his whole career - he’s not a number 10
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hes not
 
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Chip Batch

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #62
CovBrummie94 said:
Wonder where his next goal is going to come from. He needs one off his arse or something.


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I was saying the same on the way home. I can’t see him scoring more than two all season. Though if he could score as well then he wouldn’t be playing for us. It’s strange that he can do so much else so well but every shot seems to be scuffed. His confidence in front of goal must be rock bottom, but it says a lot that it hasn’t affected his overall game. Still one of probably two players that scare the opposition with Gyokeres.
 

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #63
covboy9 said:
a number 10 and 2 strikers is already pushing the boat out
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I think he means in the squad not necessarily in the 11
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #64
covboy9 said:
a number 10 and 2 strikers is already pushing the boat out
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Or you have a quicker striker with Gyökeres.

We have absolutely no pace going forward. A quick striker would have had a field day in behind that Swansea defence.
 
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CovBrummie94

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #65
If Waghorn is fit I’d like to see a front 3 of Waghorn behind Walker and Gyo. We need to see something different now.


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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #66
Fleck used to play holding with Vincelot
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #67
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Really? He’s nothing like Fleck who used to play deep
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Fleck was a second striker in the early stages of his career. Coventry dropped him deeper.

O'Hare is nowhere near as good at passing as Fleck, but that's what Hamer is for.
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #68
pusbccfc said:
Or you have a quicker striker with Gyökeres.

We have absolutely no pace going forward. A quick striker would have had a field day in behind that Swansea defence.
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perfect game for walker
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #69
CovBrummie94 said:
If Waghorn is fit I’d like to see a front 3 of Waghorn behind Walker and Gyo. We need to see something different now.


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Totally disagree with this. That's the slowest forward 3 I've ever seen in my life. We need to get rid of one of the four strikers. All too similar.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 2, 2021
  • #70
CovBrummie94 said:
If Waghorn is fit I’d like to see a front 3 of Waghorn behind Walker and Gyo. We need to see something different now.


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Totally disagree with this. That's the slowest forward 3 I've ever seen in my life. We need to get rid of one of the four strikers. All too similar.
 
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