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NZ to ban greyhound racing (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Dec 10, 2024
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greys4life

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Brilliant news. Cant be long before it happens here NZ to ban greyhound racing
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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I didn't realise so many died from it
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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greys4life said:
Brilliant news. Cant be long before it happens here NZ to ban greyhound racing
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Will there be anything left among these pressures on all sport's for making thing's safe, will we be left with Football and Tennis ,
Will we have anything left of the cultural landscape!
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Sad to hear greyhound racing has gone to the dogs in NZ !
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Nick said:
I didn't realise so many died from it
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For context an average of 170 Race horses die on the track each year in the UK ( predominantly National Hunt racing), never a word about banning it though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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nicksar said:
For context an average of 170 Race horses die on the track each year in the UK ( predominantly National Hunt racing), never a word about banning it though.
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I believe both @Grendel and I have spoken in favour of such a ban here
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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CovValleyBoy said:
Sad to hear greyhound racing has gone to the dogs in NZ !
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I believe both @Grendel and I have spoken in favour of such a ban here
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Yawn
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I believe both @Grendel and I have spoken in favour of such a ban here
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170 is 170 too many, but let's not forget the thousands bred each year that wouldn't ever be born, including this 170, if there was no racing.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
170 is 170 too many, but let's not forget the thousands bred each year that wouldn't ever be born, including this 170, if there was no racing.
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Born to be forced to put their lives at risk for entertainment
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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I've owned several racing Greyhounds in my lifetime but not for a good while tbh, I had two of them as pets after retiring from racing... ironically one of them broke her leg having a run around a field (leg went in a divot) she was operated on and lived to age 12.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Born to be forced to put their lives at risk for entertainment
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Most aren't. There are good and bad breeders and owners as there are with many dog breeders mot for racing. I could even understand albeit I'd disagree, if you challenged national hunt, but flat racing carries minimal risk.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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nicksar said:
For context an average of 170 Race horses die on the track each year in the UK ( predominantly National Hunt racing), never a word about banning it though.
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Oh I know a lot of those die, I wouldn't be against banning it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
170 is 170 too many, but let's not forget the thousands bred each year that wouldn't ever be born, including this 170, if there was no racing.
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Who all lead miserable lives and are slaughtered once their careers end
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Race Horse Death Watch

www.horsedeathwatch.com
 
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nicksar

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Horse Racing is a huge business in Australia (as is Greyhound racing) phenomenal prize money compared to the UK , interestingly Jump racing is banned in all states except Victoria,and very little Jump racing there in truth.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Retired Horses​

"There are currently over 10,000 horses registered with Retraining of Racehorses (British Horseracing’s official charity for the welfare of former racehorses) as active in other equine disciplines outside of racing, including Polo, Showing, Dressage and Eventing, as well as those horses happily engaged in hacking and exercising.



Whilst every horse is different and some will be more suitable to certain equine pursuits than others, in general thoroughbreds have even temperaments and are athletic, intelligent and durable. These qualities together with the constant handling they experience during their racing career means that with the right retraining, facilities and on-going care, new owners find having a former racehorse extremely rewarding"

That's in addition to those who go to stud, new homes ir retired to grass. A generation ago there were many not looked after post racing days, but many more regulations now and theses horses that would never be born live happy and fulfilling lives. Certainly not the pit pony existence some like to portray.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
Most aren't. There are good and bad breeders and owners as there are with many dog breeders mot for racing. I could even understand albeit I'd disagree, if you challenged national hunt, but flat racing carries minimal risk.
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How do animals consent to being raced upon?
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
How do animals consent to being raced upon?
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Presume you're against police dogs and those who help the blind or deaf too? In fact their natural habitat isn't your home, they don't 'consent' to being pets either. Ridiculous take.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
Presume you're against police dogs and those who help the blind or deaf too? In fact their natural habitat isn't your home, they don't 'consent' to being pets either. Ridiculous take.
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I’m sure if they could speak they’d say yes to being whipped with the risk of being put down if injured during entertainment
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:

Retired Horses​

"There are currently over 10,000 horses registered with Retraining of Racehorses (British Horseracing’s official charity for the welfare of former racehorses) as active in other equine disciplines outside of racing, including Polo, Showing, Dressage and Eventing, as well as those horses happily engaged in hacking and exercising.



Whilst every horse is different and some will be more suitable to certain equine pursuits than others, in general thoroughbreds have even temperaments and are athletic, intelligent and durable. These qualities together with the constant handling they experience during their racing career means that with the right retraining, facilities and on-going care, new owners find having a former racehorse extremely rewarding"

That's in addition to those who go to stud, new homes ir retired to grass. A generation ago there were many not looked after post racing days, but many more regulations now and theses horses that would never be born live happy and fulfilling lives. Certainly not the pit pony existence some like to portray.
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What is the source of this?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m sure if they could speak they’d say yes to being whipped with the risk of being put down if injured during entertainment
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The other thing can exposes horse racing fans is the pathetic “they love it” when they jump over fences riderless
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Grendel said:
The other thing can exposes horse racing fans is the pathetic “they love it” when they jump over fences riderless
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Comparing it to guide dogs is a new one
 
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greys4life

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Nick said:
I didn't realise so many died from it
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And even more dont even make it to the track and no-one knows how many puppies dont even make it out of kennels, they just disappear. A litter of pups is pretty easy to dispose of.

Many that don't quite make the grade here are exported to China - you don't even want to imagine.
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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wingy said:
Will there be anything left among these pressures on all sport's for making thing's safe, will we be left with Football and Tennis ,
Will we have anything left of the cultural landscape!
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Surely there is enough sport around that doesn’t need the participation of an animal.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Ian1779 said:
Surely there is enough sport around that doesn’t need the participation of an animal.
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Yeah probably but they're already starting on humans, I mean there's the gentrified event at Burleigh for instance I would have gone to that in the past, girl's who go every weekend to ride, they all come with risk to the humans, mitigated some what but not without risk?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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I'd like to see the end of sports that use animals for entertainment, but if/when it happens there is going to be a massive cull and dumping of the animals isn't there
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Grendel said:
The other thing can exposes horse racing fans is the pathetic “they love it” when they jump over fences riderless
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Riderless horses continue simply because they are herd animals.
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
Presume you're against police dogs and those who help the blind or deaf too? In fact their natural habitat isn't your home, they don't 'consent' to being pets either. Ridiculous take.
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To be fair Rob in our house I reckon my Staffy consents to me and my wife living in his house
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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This thread should be closed to responses from anyone who isn't vegan. I'll still disagree but at least I'll give you the benefit of being consistent and not a hypocrite choosing both sides.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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Grendel said:
What is the source of this?
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The Jocjey Club ... but then I'd wager you know that already and wanted me to out it
 
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nicksar

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
This thread should be closed to responses from anyone who isn't vegan. I'll still disagree but at least I'll give you the benefit of being consistent and not a hypocrite choosing both sides.
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I've always liked Flat racing Rob just never been keen on NH racing.
I know a bloke that buys and places the horses for a successful horse racing syndicate (Peter Clarke racing)...the horses are extremely well cared for and will be withdrawn from any race entered for if not well,or if the going changes and doesn't suit the horse.
All of the horses are found new homes when retired.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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nicksar said:
I've always liked Flat racing Rob just never been keen on NH racing.
I know a bloke that buys and places the horses for a successful horse racing syndicate (Peter Clarke racing)...the horses are extremely well cared for and will be withdrawn from any race entered for if not well,or if the going changes and doesn't suit the horse.
All of the horses are found new homes when retired.
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I like both forms and greyhounds and also eat meat. I'm comfortable with my conscience and I donate to animal charities too every month, which I doubt everyone moaning does (not Grendel tbf who I'm pretty sure also does).
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
This thread should be closed to responses from anyone who isn't vegan. I'll still disagree but at least I'll give you the benefit of being consistent and not a hypocrite choosing both sides.
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Meat and animal products are needed for a balanced diet and humans are omnivores.

Not the gotcha you think it is.
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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It clearly is. They aren't 'from the land' they are bred for you to munch on. Often not kept in the best conditions to produce your eggs milk and cheese too. Certainly not better than the racehorses you despise.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
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rob9872 said:
It clearly is. They aren't 'from the land' they are bred for you to munch on. Often not kept in the best conditions to produce your eggs milk and cheese too. Certainly not better than the racehorses you despise.
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I don’t despise the horses and yes given that I don’t run a farm I have to buy animal products.

Offer me the same nutritional benefits without needing to raise and kill animals and I’ll take it, but it’s not there yet.
 
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