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  • Start date Feb 27, 2014
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #106
So again all of the people outraged by us moving to Northampton think it would be ok to move treacle.
 

Longford

Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #107
Nick said:
So again all of the people outraged by us moving to Northampton think it would be ok to move treacle.
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Not all.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #108
Nick said:
So again all of the people outraged by us moving to Northampton think it would be ok to move treacle.
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So do you think all the people not happy with the move to Northampton should not attend the new stadium unless it is built in Coventry's boundaries?

I am not happy with the Sixfields move as I believe the FA were told there was no other option.
I do not believe this. I believe there was other options.
Was has that got to do with Nuneaton?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #109
dongonzalos said:
So do you think all the people not happy with the move to Northampton should not attend the new stadium unless it is built in Coventry's boundaries?

I am not happy with the Sixfields move as I believe the FA were told there was no other option.
I do not believe this. I believe there was other options.
Was has that got to do with Nuneaton?
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Because people think it's ok to move Nuneaton?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #110
Nick said:
Because people think it's ok to move Nuneaton?
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Not sure how that is relevant to the Northampton move.

Do you think that move was justified?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #111
dongonzalos said:
Not sure how that is relevant to the Northampton move.

Do you think that move was justified?
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Because people who think it was wrong to move us to Northampton think it is fine to move another team....
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #112
Nick said:
Because people who think it was wrong to move us to Northampton think it is fine to move another team....
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It's quite sad because if the improbable did happen and Nuneaton moved into the Ricoh then 75% of members on here would be rejoicing on here about ACL getting one over on the club by moving another team in and rubbing it in.

Our fans don't really care about the morals, it's just a good reason to act outraged at SISU. If an action is perceived to be something that SISU do not want, then it's all good regardless of morality for most people. This is a bit of a generalisation of our fans so obviously doesn't apply to everyone.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #113
Nick said:
Because people who think it was wrong to move us to Northampton think it is fine to move another team....
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Sorry you mean Nuneaton moving here?

That would be up to them and what their fans want, once everything is explained truthfully to them.
If their fans wanted it I would support it
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #114
Nick said:
So again all of the people outraged by us moving to Northampton think it would be ok to move treacle.
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For me it's not the same thing. What we are talking about here is Nuneaton moving, most likely on a temporary basis, if promoted as their current ground is not up to league standard. They would be moving to the nearest ground that is league standard and it just so happens to be empty. In my opinion that's a million miles away from leaving a top class stadium to move to a much smaller lower standard stadium 35 miles away just because you don't want to pay the rent.

If their fans were in favour of it I would have no issues. If their fans were against it I would support them in any action they took against the move.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #115
chiefdave said:
For me it's not the same thing. What we are talking about here is Nuneaton moving, most likely on a temporary basis, if promoted as their current ground is not up to league standard. They would be moving to the nearest ground that is league standard and it just so happens to be empty. In my opinion that's a million miles away from leaving a top class stadium to move to a much smaller lower standard stadium 35 miles away just because you don't want to pay the rent.

If their fans were in favour of it I would have no issues. If their fans were against it I would support them in any action they took against the move.
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You mean De Montford Park (5.4 miles from liberty way) not the Ricoh (7.1 miles)?




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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #116
stupot07 said:
You mean De Montford Park (5.4 miles from liberty way) not the Ricoh (7.1 miles)?
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Why not, whichever they prefer should the situation arise. Why would the argument for / against them playing at De Montford Park be any different than the Ricoh? Assume it's still being maintained as Villa use it don't they for youth games or reserves I think (or possibly both).

If there was a choice I would expect things like public transportation, parking etc would be taken to consideration. No idea how easy it is to get to either ground from Nuneaton. If I was the owner of Nuneaton and looking for a temporary relocation I'm sure I would consider the fact there's currently no FL team in Coventry and you might get some more casual supporters coming along and therefore increased revenue but I think the main concern would have to be the preference of the fans.
 
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Snozz_is_god

New Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #117
Even if CCFC were still playing at the Ricoh, I would still welcome helping out Nuneaton Town and ground sharing for a few years while Liberty Way is upgraded.

Provided their supporters are happy with the arrangment........ it's all about supporters.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #118
I don't really care about Nuneaton Town any more than another club that's not City. I do care about the health of the city though, and if it's beneficial to all I'd have no issue with them using the Ricoh, however much they might rattle around in it. The blame for the Ricoh being available lays firmly at Sisu's door, and I'd expect that even if Nuneaton did play there, nothing would stop City coming back and getting priority for game time. The pitch would suffer, but I'd expect Nuneaton to run down their contract and find somewhere else if that did happen and City weren't happy for them to stay.

Basically, I don't see it affecting City in the slightest if it did happen.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #119
:facepalm:

Can anyone here truthfully say that if they were a Nuneaton fan they would prefer not to join the football league and stay as a non league team if it meant travelling up the road to Coventry to play.....and as close to the Coventry border that you can get on the Nuneaton side if they managed to get promotion whilst their own ground was brought up to league standard?

I would happily go to Northampton if it meant that we stayed in the football league and there was no other way we could stay in it. We all know why we are there. We all know we can go back to the Ricoh. SISU would make at least 2m more a season if they brought us home. Yet some on here are trying to say that the reasons are similar....and then saying there is no bias in any way.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #120
Doing well today aren't they.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #121
Back in the play offs.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #122
Nick said:
Because people who think it was wrong to move us to Northampton think it is fine to move another team....
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I take it you have written letters and voiced your concerns about the proposed moving of West Ham?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #123
Hobo said:
I take it you have written letters and voiced your concerns about the proposed moving of West Ham?
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A lot of west ham fans are against the move. Fanbase is very split.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #124
How much did they get for Bolyn Ground£75m.?? Rent on New place £3m.??
should be able to chew through that short term benefit In around 18m. .
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2014
  • #125
Grendel said:
A lot of west ham fans are against the move. Fanbase is very split.
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I know, I was just wondering if Nick was offering his support?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #126
wingy said:
How much did they get for Bolyn Ground£75m.?? Rent on New place £3m.??
should be able to chew through that short term benefit In around 18m. .
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3 million rent!!!!!

That's nearly treble an outrageous cash cow blood sucking landlords recent surely?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #127
dongonzalos said:
3 million rent!!!!!

That's nearly treble an outrageous cash cow blood sucking landlords recent surely?
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Just a guess tbf Don
Based on Ethiad, I know it's lazy but it is decent sum they're paying.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #128
Hobo said:
I take it you have written letters and voiced your concerns about the proposed moving of West Ham?
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Couldn't really give a shit if they moved to be honest, I am not going to pretend I am all outraged and won't ever give them a penny and then be the first in the queue when we draw them in the cup (away).

Couldn't really care if Nuneaton moved either, I don't support them either.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #129
wingy said:
Just a guess tbf Don
Based on Ethiad, I know it's lazy but it is decent sum they're paying.
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It can't be
No one could come up with a rent figure of more than 1.2 million
Blood suckers
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #130
dongonzalos said:
3 million rent!!!!!

That's nearly treble an outrageous cash cow blood sucking landlords recent surely?
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£15m up front then £2m a year. They also have to pay a one of payment if the club is sold in the next 10 years. And guess what? They don't get all the pie money. They get money from ticket sales and a share of F&B. Not certain but I think the money generated by any other events goes to LLDC, West Ham will be tenants of LLDC on a 99 year lease.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #131
chiefdave said:
£15m up front then £2m a year. They also have to pay a one of payment if the club is sold in the next 10 years. And guess what? They don't get all the pie money. They get money from ticket sales and a share of F&B. Not certain but I think the money generated by any other events goes to LLDC, West Ham will be tenants of LLDC on a 99 year lease.
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I just can't believe this is true!!!

Well actually I can really
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #132
This could be very good news for SISU.

When they have finished with our club they can take over West Ham. We have been told no club can survive paying a high rent. So that means they will end up in admin. SISU can save them from admin, get them relegated and then refuse to pay the rent because it is too high. Then they could go to the FL and say they have no choice but to move them out of London because they need somewhere to play whilst they build a stadium where they can have the pie money. Then they can take London council.....or whatever West Ham will come under on a JR. Get an independent valuation done on a football stadium where football isn't played. Try to get the West Ham fans behind them with pictures of a new stadium
And Joy will save time and money as they are based close to her offices when she goes to games.............
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #133
dongonzalos said:
I just can't believe this is true!!!

Well actually I can really
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Why wouldn't it be true? Its the Olympic stadium in London not a concrete shithole in Foleshill.

They do get income from it - not just football related income and the deal struck for the ground sale means its free for the next 30 years and will gain the club enough revenue to pay for it all over again by then.

I don't think it would have been quite the same arrangement had orient moved in.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #134
Grendel said:
Why wouldn't it be true? Its the Olympic stadium in London not a concrete shithole in Foleshill.

They do get income from it - not just football related income and the deal struck for the ground sale means its free for the next 30 years and will gain the club enough revenue to pay for it all over again by then.

I don't think it would have been quite the same arrangement had orient moved in.
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Ain't you getting bored yet of describing the ricoh as a concrete shit hole in Foleshill, because it really isn't.

It's a good stadium that just needs the seats rearranging so football supporter's are the first consideration and a team where the owners are more concerned with engaging with the fan base in a positive manner in an effort to fill it than they are in their investors.

Or perhaps I should revert back to using shitsu so you can tell me how childish I am.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #135
Of course you/We are! he calls anyone who doesn't agree with him Childish as he hasn't an argument he will also throw around that are you really a city supporter.
Well the real problem is that 98% of Coventry supporters want them back at the Ricoh even our sixfields fans.
He must have had some Traumatic experiences with his followers in the bogs.




QUOTE=skybluetony176;659214]Ain't you getting bored yet of describing the ricoh as a concrete shit hole in Foleshill, because it really isn't.

It's a good stadium that just needs the seats rearranging so football supporter's are the first consideration and a team where the owners are more concerned with engaging with the fan base in a positive manner in an effort to fill it than they are in their investors.

Or perhaps I should revert back to using SISU so you can tell me how childish I am.[/QUOTE]
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #136
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #137
skybluetony176 said:
Ain't you getting bored yet of describing the ricoh as a concrete shit hole in Foleshill, because it really isn't.

It's a good stadium that just needs the seats rearranging so football supporter's are the first consideration and a team where the owners are more concerned with engaging with the fan base in a positive manner in an effort to fill it than they are in their investors.

Or perhaps I should revert back to using SISU so you can tell me how childish I am.
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You have to learn that his only purpose in life is to do this.
He's the bulletin board equivalent of a wasp at a picnic.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #138
Grendel said:
Its the Olympic stadium in London not a concrete shithole in Foleshill.
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What was that tournament that was played at the Ricoh in the summer of 2012?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 2, 2014
  • #139
Grendel said:
They do get income from it - not just football related income and the deal struck for the ground sale means its free for the next 30 years and will gain the club enough revenue to pay for it all over again by then.
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Where have you seen that they get the income from non-football events? I haven't seen that anywhere, even of the West Ham site about the move it says they get ticket money, shirt sponsorship and a share of catering, nothing about other events.

Are you saying that as West Ham are selling their existing ground they will be using that money to pay rent therefore making it effectively free? If that's the argument then don't you have to apply the same to us? Take however many years rent the sale price of HR equates to and class that as free?
 
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