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Greggs

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #106
Grendel said:
Whose to blame for that?
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The law of sod, We have progressed too quickly. Fans now think we should have a squad pushing for automatic promotion when realistically our aim is only going to be survival.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #107
PVA said:
Exactly.

The squad has improved year on year. You're bound to get left with some deadwood.
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Why do we offer deadwood extended contracts and high risk signings 3 year ones?

Who would you describe as dead wood
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #108
Greggs said:
The law of sod, We have progressed too quickly. Fans now think we should have a squad pushing for automatic promotion when realistically our aim is only going to be survival.
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try telling that to Luton
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #109
chiefdave said:
Are we supposed to take this answer seriously?
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It’s actually comical all the fence does it allow fans to meet up 100 yards further down
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #110
Grendel said:
Why do we offer deadwood extended contracts and high risk signings 3 year ones?

Who would you describe as dead wood
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What deadwood has been offered new contracts? Kelly yes. Godden is a key player. Allen although I do not think he's good enough as a starter has been a regular player.

High risk signings are exactly that. High risk. You take a chance they're going to come good. If, say, Kastaneer turned out to be a great signing and left on a free after 12 months I've no doubt you'd be moaning about the fact he only got a one year deal.

You can't win on contract lengths. Someone is always going to moan they're too long while someone else moans they're too short.

Current deadwood would be the likes of Kelly and Shipley.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #111
shmmeee said:
Well four of those aren’t on the books, two are in or around the team even if they shouldn’t be, another is a kid and another is a special case long term injury on a short term contract.

Really we’re talking about Hilßner and Dacosta, maybe Walker.
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We did at the beginning of the season though did we not?

We're not at all though are we as we also seem to offer contract extensions to existing players that aren't particularly deserving of it. E.g. Kelly and Jones. We also prematurely did the same with Mason the season before last. The fact we also signed Bright on a 2-year contract, let alone signed him at all, was also sheer lunacy.

Not really sure how you're disputing the fact that there's clearly a flaw with our recruitment/retention strategy.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #112
clint van damme said:
Our bench the other night contained Reid, Howley and Dinanga. Thats not a recipe for progress.
People can cite injuries but we've not got that many. But even a couple really hurt us.
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Dinanga won’t be here long watched him plenty he’s not at our U23 level
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #113
fernandopartridge said:
There is no quid pro quo with SISU. The message to the fans is

"Buy season tickets or the club will not be successful. In return we'll sell the club's best players in order to keep the club operating and enabling extraction of interest to be paid to the owners. The owners of the club have no interest in the club's success and will not make any contribution to it."
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Spot on
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #114
PVA said:
What deadwood has been offered new contracts? Kelly yes. Godden is a key player. Allen although I do not think he's good enough as a starter has been a regular player.

High risk signings are exactly that. High risk. You take a chance they're going to come good. If, say, Kastaneer turned out to be a great signing and left on a free after 12 months I've no doubt you'd be moaning about the fact he only got a one year deal.

You can't win on contract lengths. Someone is always going to moan they're too long while someone else moans they're too short.

Current deadwood would be the likes of Kelly and Shipley.
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Kelly, Jones and the season before last and somewhat prematurely, Mason.

What so your logic is high-risk signings, who no one else wants, should be put on 3 year contracts on the off chance they might come off? Ridiculous.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #115
cc84cov said:
Dinanga won’t be here long watched him plenty he’s not at our U23 level
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Which ones do you rate?
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #116
SISU have taken us as far as they can,Robins won’t be around much longer soon as a good team comes in he’s gone,Big Dave is a prat
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #117
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Kelly, Jones and the season before last and somewhat prematurely, Mason.

What so your logic is high-risk signings, who no one else wants, should be put on 3 year contracts on the off chance they might come off? Ridiculous.
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Do you understand what the word risk means?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #118
PVA said:
What deadwood has been offered new contracts? Kelly yes. Godden is a key player. Allen although I do not think he's good enough as a starter has been a regular player.

High risk signings are exactly that. High risk. You take a chance they're going to come good. If, say, Kastaneer turned out to be a great signing and left on a free after 12 months I've no doubt you'd be moaning about the fact he only got a one year deal.

You can't win on contract lengths. Someone is always going to moan they're too long while someone else moans they're too short.

Current deadwood would be the likes of Kelly and Shipley.
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not hillsner and Da Costa? Wow
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #119
Higher prices lack of budget & ambition this season,I can see season ticket sales down next season
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #120
PVA said:
What deadwood has been offered new contracts? Kelly yes. Godden is a key player. Allen although I do not think he's good enough as a starter has been a regular player.

High risk signings are exactly that. High risk. You take a chance they're going to come good. If, say, Kastaneer turned out to be a great signing and left on a free after 12 months I've no doubt you'd be moaning about the fact he only got a one year deal.

You can't win on contract lengths. Someone is always going to moan they're too long while someone else moans they're too short.

Current deadwood would be the likes of Kelly and Shipley.
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Shipley dead wood ? The manager turned down a few for him a couple of weeks ago
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #121
Grendel said:
not hillsner and Da Costa? Wow
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Well obviously. That's a given.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #122
cc84cov said:
Higher prices lack of budget & ambition this season,I can see season ticket sales down next season
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They would be down naturally anyway
 

Greggs

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #123
It's fucking amazing that we are the only club that has to trade assets in order to progress and improve........ So many clubs making millions and zillions in profit when they report the financials each year......... Another thing i find fascinating about other teams is that they have a squad of 24 players that are all fucking spectacular and have turned out to be perfect signings.

So many psychopaths on here expecting far too much.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #124
Greggs said:
It's fucking amazing that we are the only club that has to trade assets in order to progress and improve........ So many clubs making millions and zillions in profit when they report the financials each year......... Another thing i find fascinating about other teams is that they have a squad of 24 players that are all fucking spectacular and have turned out to be perfect signings.

So many psychopaths on here expecting far too much.
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Robins paid Waghorn & Bidwell a combined 130k a week didn’t help
 
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oldfiver

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #125
Grendel said:
Oh sorry what’s going to happen? Am I going to be sent to see big Dave and Old Fiver for a bit of reprogramming?
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How did I get brought on to this?

You are entitled to your opinion - even wrong ones
My beef with you is when make statements as if they are fact when they are simply outlandish throw aways to generate a response
And your financial accounting knowledge would seem to need some polishing
 
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oldfiver

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #126
Fee
oldfiver said:
How did I get brought on to this?

You are entitled to your opinion - even wrong ones
My beef with you is when make statements as if they are fact when they are simply outlandish throw aways to generate a response
And your financial accounting knowledge would seem to need some polishing
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Fee Note in the post Mr G
 

slowpoke

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #127
cc84cov said:
Robins paid Waghorn & Bidwell a combined 130k a week didn’t help
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Liar
 
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slowpoke

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #128
Did Boddy say when he thought the first brick will be laid for our new stadium ?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #129
cc84cov said:
Robins paid Waghorn & Bidwell a combined 130k a week didn’t help
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Evidence?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #130
oldfiver said:
How did I get brought on to this?

You are entitled to your opinion - even wrong ones
My beef with you is when make statements as if they are fact when they are simply outlandish throw aways to generate a response
And your financial accounting knowledge would seem to need some polishing
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What do you think of OSB and his accounting knowledge?

On the button right?
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #131
oldfiver said:
Evidence?
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@slowpoke told me
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #132
slowpoke said:
Liar
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Higher or lower?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #133
Grendel said:
Oh sorry what’s going to happen? Am I going to be sent to see big Dave and Old Fiver for a bit of reprogramming?
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For someone who purports to have been in a senior position at a big company you have a very immature attitude at times.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #134
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Higher or lower?
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You’re a liar too
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #135
cc84cov said:
Higher prices lack of budget & ambition this season,I can see season ticket sales down next season
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As much as I'm disappointed we've fallen away a bit, has it not been a good season overall? What did you expect to achieve this year? Has the football not been entertaining?
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #136
slowpoke said:
Did Boddy say when he thought the first brick will be laid for our new stadium ?
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I know this is a rhetorical question but, to be fair, he's said in the past that's not in his remit.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #137
Grendel said:
What do you think of OSB and his accounting knowledge?

On the button right?
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It was your knowledge I commented on

Another of your little foibles is to try and deflect giving an answer by raising a seperste one

I am too old G !!
 
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oldfiver

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #138
cc84cov said:
@slowpoke told me
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Here is a free bit of advice - I think he is taking the p out of you
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #139
oldfiver said:
Here is a free bit of advice - I think he is taking the p out of you
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #140
oldfiver said:
Here is a free bit of advice - I think he is taking the p out of you
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I’ll give the advice it’s actually me who’s taking the piss here but people for it all the time
 
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