Not fit enough (2 Viewers)

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

So Robins says. Do we have any fitness coaches?

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
So Robins says. Do we have any fitness coaches?

Obviously you wouldn't blame them even if we do.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 18, 2017

Crazy stuff

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

torchomatic said:
Obviously you wouldn't blame them even if we do.

Was that a yes?

Grendel · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Was that a yes?

He wasn't referring to needing a fitness coach - he said coaches, management and players have to take responsibility for getting and maintaining fitness.

Despite being a critic of baker he, when thorn was in town, took it upon himself to get and maintain fitness.

What he is getting at is there has been a lack of co-ordinated training activity which has resulted in players not maintaining levels required.

A lot of players like Haynes, Reid bigiamarana, Jones are just not capable of playing 90 minutes.

Skyblueweeman · Mar 18, 2017

If he changes it in time for pre-season, all good.

This seasons over chaps. Have a good day out at Wembers and get your minds on L2.

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bawtryneal · Mar 18, 2017

Professional footballers not fit after 46 games so far this season. You couldn't make it up!!
What do they do every frigging day in training. Un,f'ing, believable
The whole back room staff from Fisher down to who ever cleans out the bogs needs sacking.

Liquid Gold · Mar 18, 2017

Sprinkle some speed in their half time oranges, should get them through. If they have to much and do themselves a mischief then at least we won't have to see them play again.

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

Skyblueweeman said:
If he changes it in time for pre-season, all good.

This seasons over chaps. Have a good day out at Wembers and get your minds on L2.

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Totally agree. This season is done. Experiment with line-ups, give the kids a go. Enjoy our day in the sun on 2nd April and then rebuild like Gould did in '83.

We need a new team and I wouldn't be sad to see the back of most of them.

Grendel · Mar 18, 2017

He also said the players are not physical enough for this league and the midfield nowhere near strong enough

I was eleven in 87 · Mar 18, 2017

He says we're not fit.

"We need to get an identity and a way of playing, instead of hoping for the best." - Coventry City's Mark Robins

ccfcway · Mar 18, 2017

we are (for the next few weeks) a league one club behaving like a non league club.

Leadership comes from the top and if they don't care, that filters down and allows the attitude we have been breading in the last few years

Paul Anthony · Mar 18, 2017

It's pretty unforgivable for professional footballers (apply the term loosely, if you wish) are not fit with 8 games to go. You have to wonder just what the hell they've been doing? It's a basic thing, surely, that footballers need to keep their fitness levels up....

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

Grendel said:
He wasn't referring to needing a fitness coach - he said coaches, management and players have to take responsibility for getting and maintaining fitness.

Despite being a critic of baker he, when thorn was in town, took it upon himself to get and maintain fitness.

What he is getting at is there has been a lack of co-ordinated training activity which has resulted in players not maintaining levels required.

A lot of players like Haynes, Reid bigiamarana, Jones are just not capable of playing 90 minutes.

So was that a yes?

Otis · Mar 18, 2017

Grendel said:
He also said the players are not physical enough for this league and the midfield nowhere near strong enough

And then picked Jones and Lameiras.

ccfc92 · Mar 18, 2017

It's ridiculous.

I'd understand if we were semi-pro or something, turning up after a heavy drink session the night before, but these players are meant to be "pros"?

This season has been a complete debacle from the very start. The apathetic "meh" to relegation is insulting to the badge and fans.

Grendel · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
So was that a yes?

I wouldn't know. What would a fitness coach improve Tony?

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

Grendel said:
I wouldn't know. What would a fitness coach improve Tony?

Duh! Fitness. Dumb ass.

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

Apparently we do

Andy Young - Senior Fitness Coach

Andy Young started his work at the club in 2011 as an intern in the Sports Science department.

Andy's development in the role has seen him claim a full-time role at the club and having worked with the Under-18s during the 2014/15 season, he will support the first team and take care of the Development Squad duties this season.

Read more at Coventry City FC Staff Profiles

Damn. I was hoping we could blame Oggy.

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
So was that a yes?

Most people can use Google. Why don't you?

Grendel · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Duh! Fitness. Dumb ass.

So a coach with the title "fitness" should improve fitness - is that what you are saying Tony?

pusbccfc · Mar 18, 2017

Not fit enough? Not good enough.

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

torchomatic said:
Most people can use Google. Why don't you?

It was a kids program that used to be on in school holidays. Made in Northern Ireland if I remember correctly.

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Damn. I was hoping we could blame Oggy.

No, only for his failure coaching our keepers.

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

Grendel said:
So a coach with the title "fitness" should improve fitness - is that what you are saying Tony?

If the goal keeping coach is responsible for improving goal keeping I wouldn't think it's unreasonable for a fitness coach to improve fitness. Would you? Or are you suggesting that the title is misleading?

wingy · Mar 18, 2017

So who specifically and since when?
Half the side have only just arrived and the others have been left rudderless for three months.
Looks like an exercise in blame shifting to me.
Just ask Mr Fisher on Monday to confirm Venus's statement to the SCG that this year's player budget is £2.1M.

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
If the goal keeping coach is responsible for improving goal keeping I wouldn't think it's unreasonable for a fitness coach to improve fitness. Would you? Or are you suggesting that the title is misleading?

Ah but weren't you saying Oggy should not be responsible for failing to improve our keepers? Can't have it all ways.

Grendel · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
If the goal keeping coach is responsible for improving goal keeping I wouldn't think it's unreasonable for a fitness coach to improve fitness. Would you? Or are you suggesting that the title is misleading?

But you don't think that's the job of a goalkeeping coach do you Tomy?

Otis · Mar 18, 2017

torchomatic said:
No, only for his failure coaching our keepers.

What about inappropriate use of a clipboard?

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

torchomatic said:
Ah but weren't you saying Oggy should not be responsible for failing to improve our keepers? Can't have it all ways.

I would think that even you are smart enough to understand the different between nurturing a talent and improving something as basic as fitness.

skybluetony176 · Mar 18, 2017

Otis said:
What about inappropriate use of a clipboard?

Stone him.

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

Otis said:
What about inappropriate use of a clipboard?

There's just a plain sheet of A4 on it which states:

Hold this clipboard for the duration of the game. Glance at it randomly during the 90 minutes. This is especially important when we are making substitutions.

DO NOT LOSE THIS CLIPBOARD. IT IS THE PROPERTY OF SISU CAPITAL LIMITED.

FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL LEAD TO AN IMMEDIATE EXTENSION TO YOUR CONTRACT AND AN INVITE TO THE JSB CHRISTMAS PARTY.

Otis · Mar 18, 2017

torchomatic said:
There's just a plain sheet of A4 on it which states:

Hold this clipboard for the duration of the game. Glance at it randomly during the 90 minutes. This is especially important when we are making substitutions.

DO NOT LOSE THIS CLIPBOARD. IT IS THE PROPERTY OF SISU CAPITAL LIMITED.

FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL LEAD TO AN IMMEDIATE EXTENSION TO YOUR CONTRACT AND AN INVITE TO THE JSB CHRISTMAS PARTY.

I think he holds it upside down though, so probably hasn't read anything written on there.

torchomatic · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Stone him.

Little harsh. The sack will do.

Grendel · Mar 18, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
I would think that even you are smart enough to understand the different between nurturing a talent and improving something as basic as fitness.

What do you mean by even you Tony?

You do realise this really is a damning indictment of player attitude more than anything else and an attitude that has more than likely prevailed for some time?

Ultimately if a player decides to ignore the advice of a fitness coach the responsibility is the players and the manager.

Some players I'm sure have had a lazy attitude to training for some time. If a player wants to retain fitness he can and he will. As I said before Baker knew that the thorn "training" regime was a joke and many sessions never happened st all so he made it his personal responsibility to maintain fitness.

For players this is inexcusable.

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