North based Sky Blues fans? (8 Viewers)

The Great Eastern · Jun 23, 2017

Having travelled to most parts of Lincolnshire as part of a former job, the overall accent used by the people born there is definitely as if they were from the East Midlands i.e. Leicestershire, Derbyshire etc Going eastwards, it changes dramatically at Sutton Bridge, on the A17, to a broadly Norfolk tongue. As one woman in Sutton Bridge town said to me....she lets her kids go to parties just the other side of the River Nene and instead of being given the traditional party bag to come home with, they come back munching parsnips.... Is Lincolnshire in the Midlands ?? Not buying that whatsoever. How come neither the BBC or ITV operate as Midlands tv in that county ??? If we're taking counties that are in the middle latitude of the country, then Cambridgeshire and Norfolk should also be described as being in the Midlands.... Utter bolleaux

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jun 23, 2017

The Great Eastern said:
Having travelled to most parts of Lincolnshire as part of a former job, the overall accent used by the people born there is definitely as if they were from the East Midlands i.e. Leicestershire, Derbyshire etc Going eastwards, it changes dramatically at Sutton Bridge, on the A17, to a broadly Norfolk tongue. As one woman in Sutton Bridge town said to me....she lets her kids go to parties just the other side of the River Nene and instead of being given the traditional party bag to come home with, they come back munching parsnips.... Is Lincolnshire in the Midlands ?? Not buying that whatsoever. How come neither the BBC or ITV operate as Midlands tv in that county ??? If we're taking counties that are in the middle latitude of the country, then Cambridgeshire and Norfolk should also be described as being in the Midlands.... Utter bolleaux

bolleaux - what a great word that is!

Sbarcher · Jun 23, 2017

Pleeeeaaase - can we just say either North of Coventry or South of Coventry. Here endeth the geography lesson.

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

Scunthorpe is more North than Sheffield and Bolton. Not bothered what a man hundreds of years said. It's Northern.

Plus, Sheffield is below it and more central so should be even more in the midlands

Astute · Jun 23, 2017

I lived in the area for nearly 20 years before I moved to where I am now. At one stage it was changed to South Humberside if you were South of the river Humber. But the local people ignored what they tried to do. Two of my kids still live there. I have quite a lot of family living in Skeggy and surrounding areas. So for once I know what I am talking about :woot:

bawtryneal · Jun 23, 2017

I live 15 miles from Scunny and have a business based near there and no way does anybody I know consider Scunny as being in the Midlands.

Grendel · Jun 23, 2017

Astute said:
I lived in the area for nearly 20 years before I moved to where I am now. At one stage it was changed to South Humberside if you were South of the river Humber. But the local people ignored what they tried to do. Two of my kids still live there. I have quite a lot of family living in Skeggy and surrounding areas. So for once I know what I am talking about :woot:

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Grendel · Jun 23, 2017

bawtryneal said:
I live 15 miles from Scunny and have a business based near there and no way does anybody I know consider Scunny as being in the Midlands.

It isn't - it's one of two boroughs of the county that are above the East Midlands line.

Astute · Jun 23, 2017

I lived in a place called Goxhill myself. About the same distance from Scunny. A big place that even people living nearby don't know about.

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Astute said:
You know you are wrong when Grendel agrees with you.

So what is so difficult to understand? The Midlands is the bit in the middle. The original Midlands. They then named other parts. The bit you keep going on about....Lincolnshire.....was put into East Midlands. That isn't THE MIDLANDS. It is miles away. The Midlands is exactly where I showed you the map and an explanation of the exact boundaries.

The clue is in the name..."EAST...MIDLANDS"....the eastern bit of.....THE MIDLANDS.....this is like trying to explain why 1+1=2 to someone who doesn't get it....I need a sit down...

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
The clue is in the name..."EAST...MIDLANDS"....the eastern bit of.....THE MIDLANDS.....this is like trying to explain why 1+1=2 to someone who doesn't get it....I need a sit down...

But the original comment was about Scunthorpe. That's not the Midlands.

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Nick said:
But the original comment was about Scunthorpe. That's not the Midlands.

Yes it is, it's in Lincolnshire which is a midlands county (yes, including the northern bits of it).

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
Yes it is, it's in Lincolnshire which is a midlands county (yes, including the northern bits of it).

North Lincolnshire is Humber and Yorkshire. It has a Doncaster Postcode.

It's above Bolton, Sheffield and Doncaster.

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Nick said:
North Lincolnshire is Humber and Yorkshire. It has a Doncaster Postcode.

It's above Bolton, Sheffield and Doncaster.

Postcode is irrelevant. I livedin Cheshire once and had a Stoke postcode. One's north, one's midlands. It means bugger all.

The "Yorkshire and Humber" region is a made-up nonsense. Whoever said "I'm from Yorkshire and the Humber"? What's matters is the pre-1974 actual county boundaries.

Absolute latitude is also irrelevant - there isn't a single straight line which cuts the north from the midlands; as I said before, it follows the combined southern borders of Cheshire (from the Welsh border), Lancashire and Yorkshire.

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
Postcode is irrelevant. I livedin Cheshire once and had a Stoke postcode. One's north, one's midlands. It means bugger all.

The "Yorkshire and Humber" region is a made-up nonsense. Whoever said "I'm from Yorkshire and the Humber"? What's matters is the pre-1974 actual county boundaries.

Absolute latitude is also irrelevant - there isn't a single straight line which cuts the north from the midlands; as I said before, it follows the combined southern borders of Cheshire (from the Welsh border), Lancashire and Yorkshire.

How many from Scunthorpe have said they are from the Midlands?

Surely if a region is made up nonsense then so are invisible lines? If Sheffield is in the north and something is above it, it's North.

I'd say actual latitude is relevant when saying if something is North or South, surely it's the whole idea of it?

Astute · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
The clue is in the name..."EAST...MIDLANDS"....the eastern bit of.....THE MIDLANDS.....this is like trying to explain why 1+1=2 to someone who doesn't get it....I need a sit down...

Oh yes. Trying to get someone to understand that doesn't want to.

You have heard from those who have lived there. You have heard from those that still live there. You have seen a map of The Midlands. You have seen a description of the boundaries of the Midlands.

You have shown nothing to show you are right. You even have Grendel backing you. And you will admit what that means.

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Nick said:
How many from Scunthorpe have said they are from the Midlands? I don't know any but my girlfriend is from Lincolnshire and assures me the whole county is considered Midlands by those who live there.

Surely if a region is made up nonsense then so are invisible lines? If Sheffield is in the north and something is above it, it's North. I don't agree, the building blocks of "north / midlands" etc are the proper original counties that people still identify with. I lived in what is now East Cheshire but I'd always call it Cheshire. Our first away game is to North East Lincolsnhire, but to every man and his dog Cleethrorpes is just in Lincolnshire, as is Skegness. On the basis that you can't have part of a county that's north and part of the same county that's Midlands.

I'd say actual latitude is relevant when saying if something is North or South, surely it's the whole idea of it? See above. It goes off the cultural region / counties not a pure north/south line

I once got into a heated discussion at Port Vale away with some Cov mates who kept saying Stoke is in the North - I figured out they were winding me up as they ignored my attempts to set them straight on the matter. I lived just up the road in Congleton for years and I can confirm that Stokies see themselves as Midlands but as soon as you get to Cheshire just up the road, that's the North West.

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
I once got into a heated discussion at Port Vale away with some Cov mates who kept saying Stoke is in the North - I figured out they were winding me up as they ignored my attempts to set them straight on the matter. I lived just up the road in Congleton for years and I can confirm that Stokies see themselves as Midlands but as soon as you get to Cheshire just up the road, that's the North West.

Stoke is the midlands, it's in the middle and it's not above Yorkshire.

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Nick said:
Stoke is the midlands, it's in the middle and it's not above Yorkshire.

And, relevantly, it is in Staffordshire which is a Midlands county.

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
And, relevantly, it is in Staffordshire which is a Midlands county.

It's also south of Scunthorpe.

Astute · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
I once got into a heated discussion at Port Vale away with some Cov mates who kept saying Stoke is in the North - I figured out they were winding me up as they ignored my attempts to set them straight on the matter. I lived just up the road in Congleton for years and I can confirm that Stokies see themselves as Midlands but as soon as you get to Cheshire just up the road, that's the North West.

It is my wedding anniversary. Just had a meal with my wife. She looked at what I was doing on my phone.

She was born in a place called Louth. Many generations of her family were born there. It is in the middle of Scunny and Skeggy. I let her read this thread. Her reply to you? What a f#cking idiot :smuggrin:

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Nick said:
It's also south of Scunthorpe.

Irrelevant.

Scunny is in Lincolnshire
Lincolnshire is in the East Midlands
The East Midlands is part of the Midlands
Scunny = Midlands

Astute said:
It is my wedding anniversary. Just had a meal with my wife. She looked at what I was doing on my phone.

She was born in a place called Louth. Many generations of her family were born there. It is in the middle of Scunny and Skeggy. I let her read this thread. Her reply to you? What a f#cking idiot :smuggrin:

I know where Louth is thanks, I have been there. I can only imagine her comment was aimed at you. My Mrs said the same thing (about you) when I relayed this exchange!

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

The ceremonial county of Lincolnshire is composed of the non-metropolitan county of Lincolnshire and the area covered by the unitary authorities of North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire. Therefore, part of the ceremonial county is in the Yorkshire and the Humber region of England, and most is in the East Midlands region.

When discussing whether something is north or south, the actual position of the place is very relevant.

Liquid Gold · Jun 23, 2017

I can't wait for the season to start

We'll_live_and_die · Jun 23, 2017

Astute said:
I lived in a place called Goxhill myself. About the same distance from Scunny. A big place that even people living nearby don't know about.

I work for the company that owns New Holland Docks.

fernandopartridge · Jun 23, 2017

The East Midlands is a right misnomer, parts of it basically Yorkshire, parts of it South East and some parts North West (Buxton, Glossop etc).

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Rich said:
I work for the company that owns New Holland Docks.

Cool..I went for a poke around there last year. You can still see the site of the Jetty where the ferry used to go across the Humber.

Nick · Jun 23, 2017

Rich said:
I work for the company that owns New Holland Docks.

Least it's in the Midlands so you don't need to go far

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

fernandopartridge said:
The East Midlands is a right misnomer, parts of it basically Yorkshire, parts of it South East and some parts North West (Buxton, Glossop etc).

Buxton and Glossop are in Derbyshire, so they're indeed East Midlands towns because Derbyshire belongs to the East Midlands

fernandopartridge · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
Buxton and Glossop are in Derbyshire, so they're indeed East Midlands towns because Derbyshire belongs to the East Midlands

Yes people from there consider themselves as from the North West

Astute · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
Irrelevant.

Scunny is in Lincolnshire
Lincolnshire is in the East Midlands
The East Midlands is part of the Midlands
Scunny = Midlands

I know where Louth is thanks, I have been there. I can only imagine her comment was aimed at you. My Mrs said the same thing (about you) when I relayed this exchange!

The Midlands is in the middle. But you know that.

You can say what you want about East Midlands. Nobody says that they are from there. There are no signposts to say you are there. And it is miles away from the Midlands.

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

(...sighs....)

Ranjit Bhurpa · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
I once got into a heated discussion at Port Vale away with some Cov mates who kept saying Stoke is in the North - I figured out they were winding me up as they ignored my attempts to set them straight on the matter. I lived just up the road in Congleton for years and I can confirm that Stokies see themselves as Midlands but as soon as you get to Cheshire just up the road, that's the North West.

To add more fuel to the fire, Stoke is a misnomer as it is really Hanley (duck).

oucho · Jun 23, 2017

Ranjit Bhurpa said:
To add more fuel to the fire, Stoke is a misnomer as it is really Hanley (duck).

Don't get me started on that can of worms

fernandopartridge · Jun 23, 2017

oucho said:
(...sighs....)

Glossop or the High Peak is in the county of Derbyshire which belongs in the administrative county of the East Midlands, but geographically is in the North West of England.

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