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  • Start date Aug 23, 2013
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stupot07

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #36
letsallsingtogether said:
That's what I've heard as well they have also employed local people to steward the games local ball boys and local police utter sandal don't give a flying fuck for the community they say they serve.
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Didn't they ask the current steward a couple of months back if they were willing to travel? And what jurisdiction do West Midlands Police Force have in Northamptonshire?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #37
Doesn't matter they are hitting the local community and yes they did ask the stewards and they gave the answer most of us would give they don't care they obviously have all the answers as they don't listen to anybody...
stupot07 said:
Didn't they ask the current steward a couple of months back if they were willing to travel? And what jurisdiction do West Midlands Police Force have in Northamptonshire?
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #38
Thought it was common knowledge or are Northampton Town doing it out the goodness of their hearts?

Grendel said:
Where have you heard it - what's your source?
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Grendel

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #39
letsallsingtogether said:
Thought it was common knowledge or are Northampton Town doing it out the goodness of their hearts?
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As you said its what you'd heard that suggests its not common knowledge and I can't see any printed evidence anywhere.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #40
Don't see what you are getting at ?
You are saying that they are employing stewards and ball boys and local Bill from Coventry and that the stadium comes Free?


Grendel said:
As you said its what you'd heard that suggests its not common knowledge and I can't see any printed evidence anywhere.
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Grendel

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #41
letsallsingtogether said:
Don't see what you are getting at ?
You are saying that they are employing stewards and ball boys and local Bill from Coventry and that the stadium comes Free?
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I haven't said its free you said you'd heard its £200,000. I've no idea what they are paying.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 23, 2013
  • #42
The Policing bill is estimated at £70,000 alone who is paying that


Read this article http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/09/coventry-city-northampton-league-one
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #43
letsallsingtogether said:
The Policing bill is estimated at £70,000 alone who is paying that


Read this article http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/09/coventry-city-northampton-league-one
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The police bill is normally a separate bill the club pays anyway if it is Sixfields or Ricoh.
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #44
letsallsingtogether said:
The Policing bill is estimated at £70,000 alone who is paying that


Read this article http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/09/coventry-city-northampton-league-one
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I'm not sure where you are going with this....
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #45
So are you still saying that they are playing for free at sixfields if so then lets all go and support them as they have pulled off the deal of the millennium.
Grendel said:
The police bill is normally a separate bill the club pays anyway if it is Sixfields or Ricoh.
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #46
To be fair should have posted this on the franchise thread FL have admitted that we may never return......



stupot07 said:
I'm not sure where you are going with this....
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stupot07

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #47
letsallsingtogether said:
To be fair should have posted this on the franchise thread FL have admitted that we may never return......
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Thats not what he said.

The club has agreed a £1m bond with the Football League with assurances that it will return to Coventry and says it is assessing a site at the Brandon speedway stadium and another in the south west of the city. However, the League chairman, Greg Clarke, admits he "does not know" if they will really build a new ground.

Asked whether he believed the club would build a new stadium, Clarke said: "I don't know, they haven't told me whether they will or not. Everybody is posturing to get a deal, people say things to create impressions. Unreasonable things are happening. We have no power over the stadium owners or the club to tell them how to run their businesses. At some point there will have to be a compromise.


If anything it suggests that we'll eventually end up back at the ricoh as ccfc and ACL will have to come to a comprise at some point....
 
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oakey

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #48
Since HMRC also voted against the CVA should we all stop paying all our taxes, refuse to buy fuel because of the duty, refuse to buy alcohol or cigarettes which have duty on, any goods which have VAT etc?
ACL had to pursue a creditor, legally bound to do so.
SISU did not have to take the club to play in Northampton. They could have honoured a contract and quietly negotiated a better deal.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #49
oakey said:
Since HMRC also voted against the CVA should we all stop paying all our taxes, refuse to buy fuel because of the duty, refuse to buy alcohol or cigarettes which have duty on, any goods which have VAT etc?
ACL had to pursue a creditor, legally bound to do so.
SISU did not have to take the club to play in Northampton. They could have honoured a contract and quietly negotiated a better deal.
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What if the club had "quietly" been negotiating a better deal for years and got nowhere?
 

italiahorse

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #50
letsallsingtogether said:
So are you still saying that they are playing for free at sixfields if so then lets all go and support them as they have pulled off the deal of the millennium.
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Yes they are playing at Sixfields for free.
But don't tell Northampton Town chairman.
Tim says cheque is in the post.
 

italiahorse

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #51
lordsummerisle said:
What if the club had "quietly" been negotiating a better deal for years and got nowhere?
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But SISU did get a reduction from 1.2M to 150K by a round about route. Then decided not to take it. Spiteful idiots.
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #52
oakey said:
Since HMRC also voted against the CVA should we all stop paying all our taxes, refuse to buy fuel because of the duty, refuse to buy alcohol or cigarettes which have duty on, any goods which have VAT etc?
ACL had to pursue a creditor, legally bound to do so.
SISU did not have to take the club to play in Northampton. They could have honoured a contract and quietly negotiated a better deal.
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No we can't stop paying our taxes. But we CAN stop attending ACLs publicity stunts, cant we?

We can send a message to both sides.

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James Smith

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #53
stupot07 said:
Thats not what he said.

The club has agreed a £1m bond with the Football League with assurances that it will return to Coventry and says it is assessing a site at the Brandon speedway stadium and another in the south west of the city. However, the League chairman, Greg Clarke, admits he "does not know" if they will really build a new ground.

Asked whether he believed the club would build a new stadium, Clarke said: "I don't know, they haven't told me whether they will or not. Everybody is posturing to get a deal, people say things to create impressions. Unreasonable things are happening. We have no power over the stadium owners or the club to tell them how to run their businesses. At some point there will have to be a compromise.


If anything it suggests that we'll eventually end up back at the ricoh as ccfc and ACL will have to come to a comprise at some point....
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I think you might be holding out too much hope that by the time CCFC/SISU drop their NOPM to ACL campaign and want to talk, ACL haven't already moved on and found something else to do with the pitch area.
 

James Smith

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  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #54
lordsummerisle said:
What if the club had "quietly" been negotiating a better deal for years and got nowhere?
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Well who were they negotiating with, Northampton? From reading this it doesn't seem like it was ACL.

Sky Blue Trust Q&A said:
6: Before April 2012 did CCFC ever approach ACL to change the licence or rental value?

ACL: In 2004 and 2005 a proposal was made by Sir Derek Higgs that there should be different base rents for each League with escalators that would relate attendance to payment. He was a shareholder and director of CCFC and a director of ACL. This proposition was rejected by the then Board of CCFC, as although the base rents for the lower Leagues would have resulted in a reduction on the agreed rent, the rent in the Premiership would have been higher. Since SISU bought the club there have been one or two light touch discussions with SISU but nothing that amounted to a serious proposition.

CCFC: Not sure of historic negotiations

7: Is the rent at £400k in League 1 acceptable ?

ACL: Yes

CCFC: Yes [if other accompanying terms are kept to]
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http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...-news/227-full-version-of-qaa-to-acl-and-ccfc My bolding & underlining
 
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