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Astute · Apr 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
Its always great when people use the argument you have no evidence apart from the evidence that I'm going to ignore!

The evidence is the SCG minutes, the clubs response on Twitter and the response to me when I asked the question directly on matchday. So what you're actually saying is that in all those instances the club is outright lying. You say I have no evidence, I see little evidence showing the club to be lying on this matter.

Why is it so hard for you to imagine we've asked for something and Wasps have said no?

So we asked to use a kiosk that sells food to sell club items that are not food which other than being far from ideal might not even be legal so you make out that it is a full refusal. How about finding out what was agreed SISU wanted and agreed on for our return before finding someone guilty as charged. IIRC Fisher said that they didn't want an office or anything, but now right at the end of the season they want a shop. Did they not want anything to sell in a shop as they didn't want one? And after many complaints of not being able to buy anything from our club they are trying to shift the blame as usual? At least as likely as what you are coming out with.

Moff · Apr 3, 2015

Astute said:
So we asked to use a kiosk that sells food to sell club items that are not food which other than being far from ideal might not even be legal so you make out that it is a full refusal. How about finding out what was agreed SISU wanted and agreed on for our return before finding someone guilty as charged. IIRC Fisher said that they didn't want an office or anything, but now right at the end of the season they want a shop. Did they not want anything to sell in a shop as they didn't want one? And after many complaints of not being able to buy anything from our club they are trying to shift the blame as usual? At least as likely as what you are coming out with.

If you are saying that wasps cant be guilty as charged until the full facts are known, then equally perhaps it should not be implied that the club may be shifting blame as usual, if these same full facts are not known.

To be honest we may never know, but I wont lie, I still fucking hate Wasps.

(I also hate SISU before the usuals start moaning)

italiahorse · Apr 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
Its always great when people use the argument you have no evidence apart from the evidence that I'm going to ignore!

The evidence is the SCG minutes, the clubs response on Twitter and the response to me when I asked the question directly on matchday. So what you're actually saying is that in all those instances the club is outright lying. You say I have no evidence, I see little evidence showing the club to be lying on this matter.

Why is it so hard for you to imagine we've asked for something and Wasps have said no?

So, just where is this refusal ?

SCG Minutes

• SB asked about the club shop table, which was inadequate. He required if we could not being a mobile unit which could be set up for each match. TS agreed it was inadequate but unfortunately it was impossible to transport one to each game and there was no storage areas in the Ricoh that we could use. • JM asked

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SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 3, 2015

Astute said:
So we asked to use a kiosk that sells food to sell club items that are not food which other than being far from ideal might not even be legal so you make out that it is a full refusal. How about finding out what was agreed SISU wanted and agreed on for our return before finding someone guilty as charged. IIRC Fisher said that they didn't want an office or anything, but now right at the end of the season they want a shop. Did they not want anything to sell in a shop as they didn't want one? And after many complaints of not being able to buy anything from our club they are trying to shift the blame as usual? At least as likely as what you are coming out with.

No the kiosk was a solution a fan put forward and the club said its not possible (that may be because the club are well aware it isn't legal/possible so didn't even ask) All we know is that the club asked for a more permanent space

chiefdave · Apr 3, 2015

italiahorse said:
So, just where is this refusal ?

You just posted it, "this hasn't been provided to us yet", doesn't sound like Wasps sprang into action to provide a better facility to me but of course everything always has to be totally the fault of SISU.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
You just posted it, "this hasn't been provided to us yet", doesn't sound like Wasps sprang into action to provide a better facility to me but of course everything always has to be totally the fault of SISU.

tbf it doesn't read as a flat out refusal but also doesn't read as though ACL were that keen to help either. I'd imagine they would be happy for us to do it if we paid enough for the storage space inside the Arena or for the right to sell merchandise outside the stadium.

italiahorse · Apr 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
You just posted it, "this hasn't been provided to us yet", doesn't sound like Wasps sprang into action to provide a better facility to me but of course everything always has to be totally the fault of SISU.

'Hasn't been provided yet' is not a refusal.

'Hope to have a better option for next season' is not the result of a refusal.

italiahorse · Apr 3, 2015

We (CCFC) need to start looking for the positives of not having the running costs and overheads of the stadium complex.
Yet with negotiation can hire the spare capacity/areas, apply a bit of CCFC promotion(magic) and start making other profits.

Astute · Apr 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
You just posted it, "this hasn't been provided to us yet", doesn't sound like Wasps sprang into action to provide a better facility to me but of course everything always has to be totally the fault of SISU.

Or the fault of Wasps/CCC and SISU not at fault.

So when did SISU ask for, and what did they ask for that Wasps didn't spring into action for?

Leamington Pete · Apr 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
You just posted it, "this hasn't been provided to us yet", doesn't sound like Wasps sprang into action to provide a better facility to me but of course everything always has to be totally the fault of SISU.

To me it just sounds like we haven't tried very hard. The plainly obvious solution is a trailer like the Peterborough one, towed on site every game. Why the heck can't it be stored at Ryton? Could be used at other events to publicise the club too.

skyblueinBaku · Apr 3, 2015

Apparently, as far as a mobile kiosk is concerned, "it's impossible to transport one to each game". Why can't TF fit a towbar to his Range Rover and tow it? Surely the kiosk is not all that big.

skybluetony176 · Apr 3, 2015

Moff said:
Or Cost?

Like you have said we just dont know if SISU have asked, or have been priced out of the market.

I've looked on eBay for merchandising trailers and I'm sure even SISU could stretch to the cost of one of them.

skybluetony176 · Apr 3, 2015

skyblueindorset said:
Apparently, as far as a mobile kiosk is concerned, "it's impossible to transport one to each game". Why can't TF fit a towbar to his Range Rover and tow it? Surely the kiosk is not all that big.

When I go to the Ricoh instead of turning right into the Ricoh car park I turn left into the metal fabricators / shot blasters who not only have a massive yard also looking at the thing's dotted around their yard they do storage. Its next-door to the Ricoh any trailer would need towing a matter of yards. They may even have the equipment to tow it across the road for them. They'll never know if they don't ask.

italiahorse · Apr 3, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
They'll never know if they don't ask.

Now there's the problem.
It looks like they don't ask and them moan about it.

Nick · Apr 3, 2015

italiahorse said:
Now there's the problem.
It looks like they don't ask and them moan about it.

They have asked the stadium owners?

italiahorse · Apr 3, 2015

Nick said:
They have asked the stadium owners?

.... and they have been given only a paste table according to some.

skybluetony176 · Apr 3, 2015

Nick said:
They have asked the stadium owners?

They've asked them if they can park a mobile shop at the side of the Ricoh on match day's?

They could park it where the interactive fans trailers were parked by the TV company who filmed the Gillingham game. They got permission why wouldn't the club? Offcourse SISU would also have to invest in the said mobile shop and stock to put in it but like others have pointed out its mobile so it could attend all sorts of events around Coventry and the wider Warwickshire area. Get out and promote the club. Lots of fairs, festivals etc. around the region during the summer. Who knows it might even entice a few people to come to games.

skybluedan · Apr 3, 2015

italiahorse said:
.... and they have been given only a paste table according to some.

Yeah but it's one of the better paste tables

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 3, 2015

CCFC said:
And you are blinded by hatred.

Morals, Ha! Do you leave your morals at home then when you go to watch Wasps?

Gah, you quoted him:facepalm:

Leamington Pete · Apr 3, 2015

italiahorse said:
.... and they have been given only a paste table according to some.

Even the bloody paste table is on loan.

Jack Griffin · Apr 5, 2015

I know nobody reads it, but the paste table has made the National Press
http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/in_the_press_people_has_a_dig_at_city_858668/index.shtml

wingy · Apr 5, 2015

Jack Griffin said:
I know nobody reads it, but the paste table has made the National Press
http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/in_the_press_people_has_a_dig_at_city_858668/index.shtml

Who would do such a thing
Are the People part of Trinity Mirror

stupot07 · Apr 5, 2015

Jack Griffin said:
I know nobody reads it, but the paste table has made the National Press
http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/in_the_press_people_has_a_dig_at_city_858668/index.shtml

Depressing really......the best we can ever hope for is the crumbs that wasps decide to throw us.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors

skybluedan · Apr 5, 2015

Jack Griffin said:
It is the CCFC merchandising operation at last nights match
[/i think I've seen that wax jacket before.......I wonder

skybluedan · Apr 5, 2015

wingy said:
Who would do such a thing
Are the People part of Trinity Mirror

Not being funny but I've seen worse paste tables

Jack Griffin · Apr 5, 2015

wingy said:
Who would do such a thing
Are the People part of Trinity Mirror

Sure, but if you have enemies you shouldn't supply them with ammunition.

Nick · Apr 5, 2015

Jack Griffin said:
Sure, but if you have enemies you shouldn't supply them with ammunition.

Who is who's enemy?

skybluetony176 · Apr 5, 2015

Nick said:
Who is who's enemy?

Trinity mirror paper the council evening telegraph according to your mate grendull.

Nick · Apr 5, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Trinity mirror paper the council evening telegraph according to your mate grendull.

That's why I was asking Jack?

skybluetony176 · Apr 5, 2015

Nick said:
That's why I was asking Jack?

You mean council jack, again, according to your mate grendull. There's a pattern forming here.

Nick · Apr 5, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
You mean council jack, again, according to your mate grendull. There's a pattern forming here.

No, it was me asking. I didn't say council Jack, I asked him the question to find out what he meant.

What's the pattern? Apart from you having a thing for another member.

chiefdave · Apr 5, 2015

wingy said:
Who would do such a thing
Are the People part of Trinity Mirror

If this wasn't a rhetorical question then yes the People has the same owners as the CT.

Grendel · Apr 5, 2015

chiefdave said:
If this wasn't a rhetorical question then yes the People has the same owners as the CT.

Strange that.

Trinity group - that name rings a bell somewhere.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 6, 2015

Grendel said:
Strange that.

Trinity group - that name rings a bell somewhere.

They've got numerous bells in Holy Trinity and they ring them.

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