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shy_tall_knight · Oct 15, 2016

One of the callers last night made the observation that there is such a turnaround in players that none are here long enough ever to be classed as a fan's hero such as dion, regis, wallace, hutch etc..

I have compared the matchday squads season on season for the mid October fixture to see how many players make both of the 17 man squads
Oct 2012 v Oct 2013 - 5 players in both squads
Oct 2013 v Oct 2014 - 8 players in both squads
Oct 2014v Oct 2015 - 4 players in both squads
Oct 2015 v Oct 2016 - 4 players in both squads

Jordan willis is the current squad member with the most CCFC appearances at 89.

Currently i don't think there is a hero in our squad, not sure what player names go on the back of shirts now

torchomatic · Oct 15, 2016

Heroes dont have to be long standing players. As said on the other thread Thommo because more or less an instant hero. Any player that puts himself on the line time and again.

Have to say only player to come close to that this year is Bigi.

PVA · Oct 15, 2016

I don't think this is just CCFC though, it's modern football and that's the way it is unfortunately.

Samo · Oct 15, 2016

Robbie Keane... hero after 90 minutes

idm1975 · Oct 15, 2016

It is a shame but thats the way it is now. My eldest still dotes on callum wilson and my youngest adam armstrong, and both of those played 1 full season too!

Pipehitterz · Oct 15, 2016

PVA said:
I don't think this is just CCFC though, it's modern football and that's the way it is unfortunately.

Exactly right
Our team has had comparison after comparison with our own team and other teams and it is a few thing related
Modern ways
Lower league money restraints
Rubbish players
Loan reliant

Lots of posts about it's just our Club, and that's 100% fiction. It's lower league Football full stop, moving on

ccfcway · Oct 15, 2016

Robbie Keane only played 31 games for us. Only 1/3 of what Willis has !

shy_tall_knight · Oct 15, 2016

I agree its partially a symptom of modern football that is exacerbated the further you go down the league however a continual churn of players there is less identity between the players and the club. Take any decade and there will be a few players spring to mind readily from each decade, the noughties very few sheffers big Mo Doyle (not great but associated with the period), the teenies - 7 years gone possibly Carl Baker

4waspsting · Oct 15, 2016

shy_tall_knight said:
One of the callers last night made the observation that there is such a turnaround in players that none are here long enough ever to be classed as a fan's hero such as dion, regis, wallace, hutch etc..

I have compared the matchday squads season on season for the mid October fixture to see how many players make both of the 17 man squads
Oct 2012 v Oct 2013 - 5 players in both squads
Oct 2013 v Oct 2014 - 8 players in both squads
Oct 2014v Oct 2015 - 4 players in both squads
Oct 2015 v Oct 2016 - 4 players in both squads

Jordan willis is the current squad member with the most CCFC appearances at 89.

Currently i don't think there is a hero in our squad, not sure what player names go on the back of shirts now

Who would want a hero unless you purchased a shirt with TOSSER on the back

wingy · Oct 15, 2016

I think it's a symptom of
a) the league we're in or lower
b) the turnover of managers + budget cutting currently
but increasingly until this summer the shortermism of the owners.
What really disappoints is the rapid sales of home produced talent
I would love to believe we could build a team around Stevenson.
Before I get jumped on
Yes I understand the rationale of what happens.

Bob Latchford · Oct 15, 2016

shy_tall_knight said:
One of the callers last night made the observation that there is such a turnaround in players that none are here long enough ever to be classed as a fan's hero such as dion, regis, wallace, hutch etc..

I have compared the matchday squads season on season for the mid October fixture to see how many players make both of the 17 man squads
Oct 2012 v Oct 2013 - 5 players in both squads
Oct 2013 v Oct 2014 - 8 players in both squads
Oct 2014v Oct 2015 - 4 players in both squads
Oct 2015 v Oct 2016 - 4 players in both squads

Jordan willis is the current squad member with the most CCFC appearances at 89.

Currently i don't think there is a hero in our squad, not sure what player names go on the back of shirts now

The club is being '' Strangled ''

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Oct 15, 2016

Jean Jacques Burnel was my hero.

Bob Latchford · Oct 15, 2016

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Jean Jacques Burnel was my hero.

A black belt in martial arts JJB .

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Oct 15, 2016

yes, runs his own club now. About 7th dan. You wouldn't mess with him . Even Stuart Pearce wouldn't mess with him.

Sterling Archer · Oct 15, 2016

Welcome to League One, this is the norm for 90% of us shithouses down here

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Great_Expectations · Oct 15, 2016

Based on current day expectations - Chris Stokes? The only player of the current squad who constantly showed 110% commitment and effort, even through the bad times.

Bigi is a player who genuinely has an affinity for the club and therefore never gives up.

Not saying either are the best technical players in he world, but when you look at the current squad at least you know those two will be fully committed and aren't just there for the pay cheque. I highly doubt the likes of Sordell, Wright, McCann etc feel the efforts or disappointment of a defeat in the same way.

Sky Blue Kid · Oct 16, 2016

Great_Expectations said:
Based on current day expectations - Chris Stokes? The only player of the current squad who constantly showed 110% commitment and effort, even through the bad times.

Bigi is a player who genuinely has an affinity for the club and therefore never gives up.

Not saying either are the best technical players in he world but when you look at the current squad at least you know those two will be fully committed and aren't just there for the pay cheque. I highly doubt the likes of Sordell, Wright, McCann etc feel the efforts or disappointment of a defeat in the same way.

Shit at maths. Nobody can give 110%. and is that supposed to be "The"....... Well you started it!

Great_Expectations · Oct 16, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
Shit at maths. Nobody can give 110%. and is that supposed to be "The"....... Well you started it!

Poor effort. Keep trying.

And if you really want to continue with that theme: Why the full stop after 110% and then no capital on the following word?

Sky Blue Kid · Oct 16, 2016

Great_Expectations said:
Poor effort. Keep trying.

And if you really want to continue with that theme: Why the full stop after 110% and then no capital on the following word?

Poor effort numbnuts, nobody picks posters up on this forum unless like you, are a patronising twat

Great_Expectations · Oct 16, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
Poor effort numbnuts, nobody picks posters up on this forum unless like you, are a patronising twat

I think you're missing a 'they' within the above sentence. You've shown you have the intellect to spot where, so I won't spoil the fun.

I don't pick posters out, I picked you out following your attempts to patronise me.

Anyway, I'm done now. Arguments/one up-manship /whatever this is, on an Internet forum we all participate in because we have a common interest, isn't for me.

Sky Blue Kid · Oct 16, 2016

Hahahaha, very clever to delete the post you made where YOU attacked me first... Wanker!

Sky Blue Kid · Oct 16, 2016

My Grammar shield disappeared when you deleted your attack post on me arsehole.

Great_Expectations · Oct 16, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
Hahahaha, very clever to delete the post you made where YOU attacked me first... Wanker!

What? I haven't deleted any posts?!

Edit - also you need to chill; 'wanker', 'numbnut', 'twat', 'arsehole'. I know you've been embarrassed, but Christ, it's an Internet forum.

Sky Blue Kid · Oct 16, 2016

Great_Expectations said:
What? I haven't deleted any posts?!

Edit - also you need to chill; 'wanker', 'numbnut', 'twat', 'arsehole'. I know you've been embarrassed, but Christ, it's an Internet forum.

No pal... You embarrassed yourself by deleting your post, which in turn deleted my reply, lying git!

Great_Expectations · Oct 16, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
No pal... You embarrassed yourself by deleting your post, which in turn deleted my reply, lying git!

I genuinely don't know what you are talking about. I haven't deleted any posts - I didn't know that was possible. More importantly, why would I?

Feel free to ask any of the admins to check whether I've deleted anything.

I suggest you go back to the Charlton match thread, that's where this enthralling repartee started.

Sky Blue Kid · Oct 16, 2016

Great_Expectations said:
I genuinely don't know what you are talking about. I haven't deleted any posts - I didn't know that was possible. More importantly, why would I?

Feel free to ask any of the admins to check whether I've deleted anything.

I suggest you go back to the Charlton match thread, that's where this enthralling repartee started.

You mean the one where you attacked my post?

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Oct 16, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
My Grammar shield disappeared when you deleted your attack post on me arsehole.

Just a minor point but without the comma this reads a bit different to what it probably should .

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