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NHS malware attack (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date May 12, 2017
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Captain Dart

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  • May 12, 2017
  • #1
NHS England hit by 'cyber-attack' - BBC News

In my opinion time to locate the persons responsible and send in the SAS to explain their gross error of judgement.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #2
Be interesting to see the SAS get into Tory HQ...
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #3
Ian1779 said:
Be interesting to see the SAS get into Tory HQ...
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I can see Hunt there as a Bond villain doing it
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #4
Ian1779 said:
Be interesting to see the SAS get into Tory HQ...
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Did they relocate to Cechnya?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #5
Captain Dart said:
Did they relocate to Cechnya?
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be nice if they did.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #6
There are some thing you just don't mess with.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • May 12, 2017
  • #7
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I can see Hunt there as a Bond villain doing it
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Just call me Odd Jaws!
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2017
  • #8
Why no anti virus blocking things like that or protection?

People get that crap in emails most days.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #9
Apparently the lockout virus has hit other countries too.
 
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covcity4life

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  • May 12, 2017
  • #10
It cant be the normal randomeware surely? Unless they hacked ibto plant it. This seems like a big deal
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2017
  • #11
Could they not have attacked one of those huge investment banks - no one would he'd given a fuck.

Even better - I know an investment company based in the Cayman Islands...
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2017
  • #12
Ian1779 said:
Could they not have attacked one of those huge investment banks - no one would he'd given a fuck.

Even better - I know an investment company based in the Cayman Islands...
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"Do you want millions from a council, open this zip file for more"
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 13, 2017
  • #13
Windows XP went out of support years ago so it was wide open for exploits like this.

90 per cent of the UK's NHS is STILL relying on Windows XP
 
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vow

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #14
"That agreement ended on April 14 2015 after it was decided not to go for a second year.

Individual government departments and agencies were free to sign their own extended support agreements with Microsoft. ®"
Wow, 2 years on from no support, also opted out of the 2nd year support, ffs no wonder it was hacked.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #15
My wife was working last night and said it made it a more difficult night than it normally is, but as usual they just got on with it and did their best for their patients.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #16
See Hunt has gone in to hiding and sent Rudd out to face the public. She's claiming its nothing to do with the government conveniently ignoring that there was no money to upgrade these systems due to huge budget cuts.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #17
chiefdave said:
See Hunt has gone in to hiding and sent Rudd out to face the public. She's claiming its nothing to do with the government conveniently ignoring that there was no money to upgrade these systems due to huge budget cuts.
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Hopefully the vulgar little shit is spending the time writing his resignation speech.

May must be hoping it gets sorted quickly as her popularity will shrink if it drags on.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 13, 2017
  • #18
Yet it seems that a majority want to vote these idiots back into power despite running down the health service as much as possible
 
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RedSalmon

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #19
Speaking as someone who works in the NHS, this is just symptomatic of the whole organisation. The IT systems that I have encountered are really quite poor compared with systems used by social services.
Not at all suprised something like this has happened, was just a matter of time before it did.
Apologies for sounding cynical.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #20
vow said:
"That agreement ended on April 14 2015 after it was decided not to go for a second year.

Individual government departments and agencies were free to sign their own extended support agreements with Microsoft. ®"
Wow, 2 years on from no support, also opted out of the 2nd year support, ffs no wonder it was hacked.
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problem is when your given the choice between paying for that or paying for medical equipment what ya gonna do?
Of course, the NHS is totally safe in the hands of the tories.
 

Captain Dart

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  • May 13, 2017
  • #21
RedSalmon said:
Speaking as someone who works in the NHS, this is just symptomatic of the whole organisation. The IT systems that I have encountered are really quite poor compared with systems used by social services.
Not at all suprised something like this has happened, was just a matter of time before it did.
Apologies for sounding cynical.
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And your reasons for Nissan getting caught out too, criminal underinvestment in their car plants?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2017
  • #22
Captain Dart said:
And your reasons for Nissan getting caught out too, criminal underinvestment in their car plants?
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Nissan getting caught out by malware proves tories not defunding NHS, HAHAHA!!
 
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dutchman

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #23
Nick said:
Windows XP went out of support years ago so it was wide open for exploits like this.

90 per cent of the UK's NHS is STILL relying on Windows XP
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A patch for various version of Windows XP is available from Microsoft:

Customer Guidance for WannaCrypt attacks
 
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Captain Dart

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #24
The NHS does not always get its priorities right.

NHS Chaplains, Each chaplain is a leader (minister, imam, priest, etc) in their own faith.
Chaplain
Why should the NHS pay for religions? Let religions pay for these posts themselves.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #25
Captain Dart said:
The NHS does not always get its priorities right.

NHS Chaplains, Each chaplain is a leader (minister, imam, priest, etc) in their own faith.
Chaplain
Why should the NHS pay for religions? Let religions pay for these posts themselves.
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who do you think signed the PO for those art works? Was it a surgeon? Was it a consultant? Or was it one of the army of management put in place by new labour and the tories at the expense of doctors and nurses?
 
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Captain Dart

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #26
clint van damme said:
who do you think signed the PO for those art works? Was it a surgeon? Was it a consultant? Or was it one of the army of management put in place by new labour and the tories at the expense of doctors and nurses?
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Exactly, the NHS management has to be streamlined, it is not a case of saying it is underfunded and chucking more money at it. I'm sure you agree.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #27
The senior management needs to be streamlined but unfortunately the people who do the streamlining are the senior management so unless they fancy early retirement with a big pay off and early pension it won't happen.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #28
Captain Dart said:
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The money has been raised by donations, many from staff and patients.
Peter Burroughs from the hospital said: "This money was specifically donated for art in the new hospital and could not have been used for patient care."
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Captain Dart said:
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All of which were funded by donations to art link so could only be used for art.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #29
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The senior management needs to be streamlined but unfortunately the people who do the streamlining are the senior management so unless they fancy early retirement with a big pay off and early pension it won't happen.
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Exactly, when Cameron promised there wouldn't be a top down reorganisation that's exactly what happened. Budgets for each department were slashed and the managers had to make the decisions on what to cut. They aren't going to cut their own jobs or pay.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #30
As publicised on BBC
The No More Ransom Project
 

clint van damme

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #31
Captain Dart said:
Exactly, the NHS management has to be streamlined, it is not a case of saying it is underfunded and chucking more money at it. I'm sure you agree.
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the management needs streamlining, ask any doctor or nurse who work for the NHS what they think of the management and I'm sure we can all imagine the response.
But the NHS should be given whatever it needs to function, it is one of the greatest, if not the greatest institution in the world.

It brings our children into the world, and looks after them while they grow.
For those of us of working age, it keeps us healthy so we can be productive and contribute to the wealth of the country.
For the elderly, it looks after them and affords them care so they can deservedly enjoy their twilight years after a life time of contributing to society and it takes care of the most vulnerable, people with debilitating illnesses, those with mental health issues etc.

Do we really want it replaced with a system that sees young people in debt with medical bills because they've started a family? Or denies people life saving treatment based on a loop hole in the small print of some shyster insurance companies paperwork?

There's plenty of ways it can be funded if the will there, unfortunately with the tories, it's not.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #32
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The senior management needs to be streamlined but unfortunately the people who do the streamlining are the senior management so unless they fancy early retirement with a big pay off and early pension it won't happen.
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Absolutely right. We've been having our budgets cut since 2010. We've lost lots of grass roots workers. Strangely, the middle manangers are still about. Well, I suppose there needs to be somebody to tell senior management which grass roots workers we can do without.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 14, 2017
  • #33
Captain Dart said:
Exactly, the NHS management has to be streamlined, it is not a case of saying it is underfunded and chucking more money at it. I'm sure you agree.
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The management should streamline the management? Yea, that's really going to work.
 

Captain Dart

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  • May 14, 2017
  • #34
PFI the real reason the NHS budget is overstretched.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2017
  • #35
Don't most European countries still charge for treatment upfront and then there is a reclaim of a percentage of the funds and the balance the user has to pay for through an insurance policy or just pay?

This definitely was the case a few years ago and some charge for doctors appointments.
 
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