help him get up with their inflatable stuff?
Very sorry to hear that Otis and do hope he gets the care he needs. Of all of the failings of this Government their failure to fund and support the ambulance service is the worst. It has been in crisis for some time now, despite the amazing professionalism of its staff. I don't understand why more people and the media are more concerned about this.Anyone else had any very long waits?
My dad had a fall. It's it's second in two days and he's 92. Been waiting for an ambulance since 6.30am.
I am guessing this is quite the norm.
Very sorry to hear that Otis and do hope he gets the care he needs. Of all of the failings of this Government their failure to fund and support the ambulance service is the worst. It has been in crisis for some time now, despite the amazing professionalism of its staff. I don't understand why more people and the media are more concerned about this.
Meanwhile the Government is looking the other way and spending its energy and money on gimics like the Rwanda scheme.
Yes, sort of. He was just so immobile. It was impossible for me to be able to get him into the car. They needed to get him into a wheelchair and strapped into the ambulance.Fucking hell, that's shocking.
Is he stuck as in needs them to help him get up with their inflatable stuff?
Complete madness. The reason there are no ambulances is that they have to wait for hours outside A&E.So, the ambulance came at 18.06.
I was going to go with them in the ambulance and they said no point, as they will just be sat at the hospital in a queue of ambulances for 4 hours when they get there. It's a madness isn't it
Utterly clueless nonsense
Can you give some actual evidence? Studies have shown it to be one of the most efficient health services in the world. At individual trust level it does not have enough management or supporting infrastructure, they are managed on a shoestring, a private company that had an equivalent turnover to an average Trust would employ an awful lot more people to manage it. There might be an argument to say there are some people employed in central government for NHSE who serve little useful purpose but that's not what I believe you're talking about.I'm not sure what he has said that's so outrageous really. The NHS is run very badly. That doesn't mean it doesn't need more support and government help, but it isn't managed well from the top down whatsoever. It could be a hell of a lot more efficient with the funds it does have.
Can you give some actual evidence? Studies have shown it to be one of the most efficient health services in the world. At individual trust level it does not have enough management or supporting infrastructure, they are managed on a shoestring, a private company that had an equivalent turnover to an average Trust would employ an awful lot more people to manage it. There might be an argument to say there are some people employed in central government for NHSE who serve little useful purpose but that's not what I believe you're talking about.
Agreed, sorry Otis and hope your Dad is on the mendThis isn't the thread for this kind of debate. Hope for your old man Otis that by now he's been seen to and is on his way to recovery.
I think it's just so the headlines don't read "was kept on a trolley in reception for 4 hours" like people used to be?So, the ambulance came at 18.06.
I was going to go with them in the ambulance and they said no point, as they will just be sat at the hospital in a queue of ambulances for 4 hours when they get there. It's a madness isn't it
My Dad collapsed in the middle of dinner of Christmas Day last year and to be fair the ambulance was there in minutes but that was probably because they thought he'd had a heart attack and were talking me through CPR and the fact they quite often park up just down the road waiting for a call so we just got lucky
Once he got to hospital it was a different story, hours in a queue outside a&e then hours stuck in a&e
Then when he was ready to leave the hospital exactly as covrock says, he needed to go in to care and we had weeks of waiting for a place to become available taking up a hospital bed needed by others
The vast majority of NHS staff are brilliant but the system itself is on the verge of collapse. It's amazing to me how easily accepted some of these things are. We don't bat an eyelid that there will be a winter crisis every year, very little complaining about the things being mentioned on this thread like being stuck in an ambulance outside a&e for hours
As an update, the ambulance came on Monday evening as I said. Took him to A&E.
It's now Wednesday and he's still in A&E. He's fine. They just need to do some observations on him. Supposed to be moving him to a ward and I have the ward number, but it's still not happened.
A&E is getting clogged up with the wrong patients. It's supposed to treat emergencies and then act as a conduit to allocate people to the right areas of care.
At the moment, it's almost acting as another ward.
Half the time when you ring my doctors its an answerphone message saying there's no more appointments available that day either call back in the morning or if you feel bad go to a&eA massive issue for as long as I can remember is how shit GPs are. If people could get into see their GP then they wouldn't be rocking up at A&E and filling it up with people who don't need to be there.
Half the time when you ring my doctors its an answerphone message saying there's no more appointments available that day either call back in the morning or if you feel bad go to a&e
Then obviously when you get to a&e they don't want to tell you to go away and say its not something you should be there with in case it is
The drop in centres are where they send you for 111 calls. I kept getting sent to the one in Stoke Aldermoor -pretty sure no illness would dare linger around there!Not sure how busy it is these days but there is the drop in centre at the bottom of Stoney Stanton .. Maybe they could still make more of that .
Just for the generalized stuff .
Open up to 10pm and weekends too
Can you give some actual evidence? Studies have shown it to be one of the most efficient health services in the world. At individual trust level it does not have enough management or supporting infrastructure, they are managed on a shoestring, a private company that had an equivalent turnover to an average Trust would employ an awful lot more people to manage it. There might be an argument to say there are some people employed in central government for NHSE who serve little useful purpose but that's not what I believe you're talking about.
It surprises me as to how many bods are needed in emergency departments. TV footage often shows a dozen or so people round some critical injuries. The night shifts in wards are very quiet compared to all the specialists milling around during the week days.That’s interesting (not arguing here) as my wife has just moved from 22 years in NHS to a private health company dealing with sub contracted NHS patients. She finds that there is a far leaner management structure
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