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Brylowes

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  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #176
Ian1779 said:
And this is exactly why the Trust would benefit from an unequivocal position on Wasps. Then everyone knows what they are signing up for.

It would unite the fans in a big way - then you can start co-ordinating from there.
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But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #177
Brylowes said:
But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.
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But the clubs main supporters club comes out against the club in confrontational style?

What people are alluding to is that we should let then get away with whatever they want. I guess it is the same for the council?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #178
Brylowes said:
But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.
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If Wasps/CCC refuse to negotiate because a supporters group has condemned them it tells you everything you need to know about said organisations and the clubs chance of interacting with them productively.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #179
When did we get a 3 point deduction?

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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #180
Nick said:
But the clubs main supporters club comes out against the club in confrontational style?

What people are alluding to is that we should let then get away with whatever they want. I guess it is the same for the council?
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Nick they come out in confrontational style against our owners BECAUSE they are our owners
And as such are the only ones capable of halting the downward spiral the club is on.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #181
stupot07 said:
When did we get a 3 point deduction?

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Why are they protesting at 3pm? Are they not going in to the ground
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #182
Ian1779 said:
If Wasps/CCC refuse to negotiate because a supporters group has condemned them it tells you everything you need to know about said organisations and the clubs chance of interacting with them productively.
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I never said cause them to refuse to negotiate, just that it might have influence on their decision.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #183
Brylowes said:
Nick they come out in confrontational style against our owners BECAUSE they are our owners
And as such are the only ones capable of halting the downward spiral the club is on.
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But they're not though are they? There are always external factors that effect our position, and we're now at the mercy of wasps and CSF for the stadium and the academy. Its not all in sisus hands. Yet wasps, csf, acl, CCC get off scot free from any protest or criticism.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #184
Brylowes said:
I never said cause them to refuse to negotiate, just that it might have influence on their decision.
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Why would it?

Is that why everybody wants to be so nice to them?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #185
Brylowes said:
Nick they come out in confrontational style against our owners BECAUSE they are our owners
And as such are the only ones capable of halting the downward spiral the club is on.
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Wrong again, they aren't are they? This is what people dont understand.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #186
stupot07 said:
But they're not though are they? There are always external factors that effect our position, and we're now at the mercy of wasps and CSF for the stadium and the academy. Its not all in sisus hands. Yet wasps, csf, acl, CCC get off scot free from any protest or criticism.

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And we are at the mercy of Wasps and CSF for the stadium and academy because of who.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #187
Brylowes said:
And we are at the mercy of Wasps and CSF for the stadium and academy because of who.
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A mixture of Sisu, CCC, higgs, our former owners, acl, and wasps

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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #188
Brylowes said:
And we are at the mercy of Wasps and CSF for the stadium and academy because of who.
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But I thought they werent at the mercy and it was all down to them?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #189
Brylowes said:
But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.
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How many people are now in the Trust on an active basis ?
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #190
Nick said:
But I thought they werent at the mercy and it was all down to them?
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Oh no, we're at the mercy of many, but I know who I blame for this and I know who you don't.
You wont change my mind, nor me yours, so it keeps going round 'n' round
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #191
Brylowes said:
Oh no, we're at the mercy of many, but I know who I blame for this and I know who you don't.
You wont change my mind, nor me yours, so it keeps going round 'n' round
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It's ok, we will be nice to Wasps in case they do nasty things to CCFC because we shouted at them. They will still be nice though.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #192
oldfiver said:
How many people are now in the Trust on an active basis ?
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I have no idea.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #193
Nick said:
It's ok, we will be nice to Wasps in case they do nasty things to CCFC because we shouted at them. They will still be nice though.
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Eh. I didn't know who WASPS were until SISU left the door open for them, the y have
Fucked up at every turn, it's just a matter of time before they snuff out the club they're
Supposed to be looking out for
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #194
Brylowes said:
Eh. I didn't know who WASPS were until SISU left the door open for them, the y have
Fucked up at every turn, it's just a matter of time before they snuff out the club they're
Supposed to be looking out for
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They are the ones who were discussing it with the council before we moved..

Again, you won't want to know if it doesnt mean shouting SISU out.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #195
Brylowes said:
Eh. I didn't know who WASPS were until SISU left the door open for them, the y have
Fucked up at every turn, it's just a matter of time before they snuff out the club they're
Supposed to be looking out for
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Just to reflect back on something... All the shit started when SISU had their chance to buy into the Ricoh but didn't.(In the beginning) Now everyman and his dog has to pay the piper.
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #196
Nick said:
They are the ones who were discussing it with the council before we moved..

Again, you won't want to know if it doesnt mean shouting SISU out.
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Nick I'm bored and your right, going out with the family now. :cigar:
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #197
Sky Blue Kid said:
Just to reflect back on something... All the shit started when SISU had their chance to buy into the Ricoh but didn't.(In the beginning) Now everyman and his dog has to pay the piper.
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They didn't have the chance for 100% and 250 years for less than 6 million... That is the point people are making.

People also forget the conditions that the councillors were given before voting.

People turn a blind eye to the council making promises the football club wont be damaged by wasps, because when it is damaged by wasps they just blame sisu anyway.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #198
Lets fill the stadium every home game. That is sure to persuade Sisu to rethink their strategy. Probably as much as shouting Sisu out will, or organising marches.

CCC are a disgrace and Wasps shouldn't be here - we all know this, and a protest against them will change their strategy also - or perhaps not

People are giving up as the downward spiral continues.
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #199
Nick said:
They didn't have the chance for 100% and 250 years for less than 6 million... That is the point people are making.

People also forget the conditions that the councillors were given before voting.

People turn a blind eye to the council making promises the football club wont be damaged by wasps, because when it is damaged by wasps they just blame sisu anyway.
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Yeah SISU successfully distressed ACL to the point wasps came in and got a great deal, incidentally
A deal TF said we would never have done.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #200
Monners said:
Lets fill the stadium every home game. That is sure to persuade Sisu to rethink their strategy. Probably as much as shouting Sisu out will, or organising marches.

CCC are a disgrace and Wasps shouldn't be here - we all know this, and a protest against them will change their strategy also - or perhaps not

People are giving up as the downward spiral continues.
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The only way is pro ccfc. Show them all ccfc is bigger than SISU, bigger than WASPS etc.
 
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skyblueinBaku

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #201
Nick said:
The only way is pro ccfc. Show them all ccfc is bigger than SISU, bigger than WASPS etc.
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I don't agree, Nick. Pro CCFC certainly, but anti-xxx can work if it is targetted properly.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #202
Nick said:
The only way is pro ccfc. Show them all ccfc is bigger than SISU, bigger than WASPS etc.
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It's impossible to differentiate between CCFC and SISU. Whilst SISU are still in charge they ARE CCFC.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #203
Why can't this protest be mixed with SISU OUT, Wasps and Council Out e.c.t, why aren't people bothered about raising their own concerns during the march? Anyone can easily join along with their own agendas to who has hurt CCFC the most.

That's the only reason why people do these protests, because they care about 1 thing, CCFC.

Instead of making 50,000 page long threads about the subject, why not be involved in it instead? And protest whoever you want to protest against, unless of course, you're happy the way the club is going?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #204
Sky Blue Kid said:
It's impossible to differentiate between CCFC and SISU. Whilst SISU are still in charge they ARE CCFC.
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No they aren't. SISU are the people in London. CCFC are the players and manager on a matchday.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #205
skybluebeduff said:
Why can't this protest be mixed with SISU OUT, Wasps and Council Out e.c.t, why aren't people bothered about raising their own concerns during the march? Anyone can easily join along with their own agendas to who has hurt CCFC the most.

That's the only reason why people do these protests, because they care about 1 thing, CCFC.

Instead of making 50,000 page long threads about the subject, why not be involved in it instead? And protest whoever you want to protest against, unless of course, you're happy the way the club is going?
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Because SISU are the only one that you have a chance of ousting ( outside chance granted)
Wasps aren't going anywhere, they have a 250 year lease and look too be trying to grow
Their business in any way possible.
CCC can only be voted out at the ballot box, and given that the major decisions concerning
The football club were subject to cross party support, what difference would that make .
The only one the supporters can realistically challenge are the ones ultimately responsible
For the clubs wellbeing, apart from a dedicated educated group on here I think most realise
This.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #206
Brylowes said:
Because SISU are the only one that you have a chance of ousting ( outside chance granted)
Wasps aren't going anywhere, they have a 250 year lease and look too be trying to grow
Their business in any way possible.
CCC can only be voted out at the ballot box, and given that the major decisions concerning
The football club were subject to cross party support, what difference would that make .
The only one the supporters can realistically challenge are the ones ultimately responsible
For the clubs wellbeing, apart from a dedicated educated group on here I think most realise
This.
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OK, you rock up and shout about stuff that hasn't happened and see who gets ousted...
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #207
Nick said:
No they aren't. SISU are the people in London. CCFC are the players and manager on a matchday.
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AAnnnnndddddd Who pays their wages? This shower of shit can fold this club with a click of their fingers. Then where is the Manager, and team on matchday???
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #208
Ian1779 said:
Why are they protesting at 3pm? Are they not going in to the ground
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Judging by the comments on the facebook event most of those planning to attend don't go to games.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #209
Sky Blue Kid said:
AAnnnnndddddd Who pays their wages?
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The club pays their wages.
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #210
Ian1779 said:
If you don't scream SISU OUT at every single opportunity then somehow you're in collusion with them and are a SISU lover.

That's pretty much the held view at the Trust isn't it??
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The view of the vast majority of Trust membership is very much that way of thinking and as a democratic group we have to go with the majority.
However, our membership may want new owners but we can still have good dialogue with them and generally we do, even though they are aware of the stance we have put in place.
Am sure you and most people still do business or communicate with people even if we do not like or trust them, personally I will happily talk to anyone if it is a benefit to me or my company..
 
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