No, that's not the case.
Wasps wanted a longer agreement. The club said 2 years with an option of two more they did not want to commit to longer.
No, that's not the case.I thought it was Wasps who refused to negotiate and extension at the Ricoh?
As you know they have put it on hold until Sisu have finished in court.
Obviously Sisu could start it next week if they agreed with the judges that the case fails dismally.
So wasps lied to the CT about the reasons in order to drop thr blame on sisus lap?No, that's not the case.
Wasps wanted a longer agreement. The club said 2 years with an option of two more they did not want to commit to longer.
No, that's not the case.
Wasps wanted a longer agreement. The club said 2 years with an option of two more they did not want to commit to longer.
So wasps lied to the CT about the reasons in order to drop thr blame on sisus lap?
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Woe betide anyone calling SISU liars though eh Nick.Wasps said it themselves didn't they? Unless you think they are lying?
http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/covc.htmYou've lost your case. Average spend was spiralling downwards. We've never averaged more than 20,000 home fans a season for as
long as I remember - we got some at 15,000 last season - you're big nopm view is isolated to you and a few other loonies I'm afraid.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/we-felt-difficult-conclude-long-11419646Woe betide anyone calling SISU liars though eh Nick.
We don't know that. They have said that. They say a lot of things.
And?.... I metioned "Woe betide anyone that call SISU liars"... What's wrong with that statement? I was generalising mate.. Have you never heard of that before?http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/we-felt-difficult-conclude-long-11419646
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You got alzheimers mate?....... Chew on this....You've lost your case. Average spend was spiralling downwards. We've never averaged more than 20,000 home fans a season for as
long as I remember - we got some at 15,000 last season - you're big nopm view is isolated to you and a few other loonies I'm afraid.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/we-felt-difficult-conclude-long-11419646
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You've lost your case. Average spend was spiralling downwards. We've never averaged more than 20,000 home fans a season for as
long as I remember - we got some at 15,000 last season - you're big nopm view is isolated to you and a few other loonies I'm afraid.[/QUOTE
Season 2005-2006
Coventry City 489.943 Matches 23 Average gate 21.302
You got alzheimers mate?....... Chew on this....
It read at the time, and still reads to me that if the legal stuff was put to bed (not an unreasonable stance in my opinion) then they are not too far away from a workable agreement.
It is Wasps perogative whether thay are willing to deal with a company who have a litigeous history and are not willing to change their modus operandi.
Would you as a Landlord take on a tenant that was regularly in court?
Isn't this easily fixed?
No mate. This is the only forum I've ever been on.You're SkyBlueScotland/Fisheymores from GMK! You must be!
F**k me... I actually agree with you on this oneSo let's say SISU drop the legals today and tomorrow go to table to negotiate.
If Wasps turn round and say the new deal is £1m a year take it or leave it - then where does the club go?
Or will people still say Wasps are innocent?
If they are that keen on a deal - get one agreed in principle with independent body involved and say to SISU - you can have this deal once legals are dropped. Not drop them before you can even come to negotiate.
F**k me... I actually agree with you on this one
I think this is not far off the truth but what choice do we now have ? Our owners have got together a little group of self interested sycophants and have been lying through their back teeth about building a new stadium for years now !
CCFC's only bargaining strength in this is the volume of hungry and thirsty fans it can drag through the doors of the Ricoh 25 times a year to help satisfy the top boys at 'Compass' who will be grinding their teeth at the potential loss of footfall.
So let's say SISU drop the legals today and tomorrow go to table to negotiate.
If Wasps turn round and say the new deal is £1m a year take it or leave it - then where does the club go?
Or will people still say Wasps are innocent?
If they are that keen on a deal - get one agreed in principle with independent body involved and say to SISU - you can have this deal once legals are dropped. Not drop them before you can even come to negotiate.
Whilst we're here.. Anybody else you want to accuse me of being?You're SkyBlueScotland/Fisheymores from GMK! You must be!
So wasps lied to the CT about the reasons in order to drop thr blame on sisus lap?
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Good idea. Why don't Sisu find out?
Where did the £1M come from? Commercial rates can easily be determined from searching the market, and as you say they can be audited by a third party.
One thing is for sure - until Sisu drop the legal stuff there is no point in progressing to this point, so why don't they just do it? do they actually want a deal, or are they just trying to prove that everyone else is unreasonable? All words and posturing, and no action..
Good idea. Why don't Sisu find out?
Where did the £1M come from? Commercial rates can easily be determined from searching the market, and as you say they can be audited by a third party.
One thing is for sure - until Sisu drop the legal stuff there is no point in progressing to this point, so why don't they just do it? do they actually want a deal, or are they just trying to prove that everyone else is unreasonable? All words and posturing, and no action..
Would you want to do business with a company that is dragging your name through the courts? Just wondering like!but why are Wasps making the dropping of legal action a condition of starting talks when they've already stated it's nothing to do with them?
So let's say SISU drop the legals today and tomorrow go to table to negotiate.
If Wasps turn round and say the new deal is £1m a year take it or leave it - then where does the club go?
Or will people still say Wasps are innocent?
If they are that keen on a deal - get one agreed in principle with independent body involved and say to SISU - you can have this deal once legals are dropped. Not drop them before you can even come to negotiate.
Well seeing as the previous deal was £1.3m from the same company - does suggesting they might hike up to around £1m seem such a mad suggestion? An independent third party is a good idea, but we've been here before and ACL weren't having any of it.
JR1 is dead and buried - carrying it on is futile.
JR2 however might have some legs... Is this the reason they want it dropped?
Season 2006-2007
Coventry City 467.877 Matches 23 Average gate 20.342
Quoting a figure in isolation of the heads of terms is, as you know, meaningless. Depending on the terms £1M per annum rent could be fantastic or terrible.
If you are correct in that JR2 might have legs and Sisu are intent on pursuing it then that is their call, but do you really believe that in those circumstances they can expect co-operation from anyone who is remotely connected to this whole mess?
Sisu will be taking Wasps CCC to court next and Wasps will not know the details. So will Sisu divulge them so they can work out the deal.
Of course not, don't be so naive.
When the court cases are finished the talks will restart. If the existing 2 year deal is not over then a temporary deal will be given.
The driving factor on this will be that Wasps receive more cash from us being there than not there.
I'd say the playing budget would be a lot better for starters, the added atmosphere might even help us grind out some results.
If we were getting shed loads of fans every week it would also give a statement that all we all care about is CCFC, screw everybody else. I doubt very much Wasps would want to take the piss and play games if we were getting 30k every week. The place would end up smashed up if they tried to boot us out.
Okay thats fine , What makes you so sure Sisu would invest that money in the Club ? As for Wasps takin the piss that un fair , they have THEIR own business to run , They owe Sisu nothing .
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