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Brylowes

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  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #316
oldfiver said:
But what is the "list" and who produced it
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I didn't say there was a list, Ian said they can't get their priorities in order, but maybe
They have got their priorities in order, but they just don't match his.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #317
oldfiver said:
You do like bandying numbers about that you can justify
Then expect people to take you seriously
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I don't care if you take me seriously.
I want Sisu out and I don't care if a few of you don't.
At the end of the day I can say I tried and never had a go at those that also tried.

I bet you even knew where the golden share was,
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #318
We all want sisu out. Some of us also want the other culprits involved in our demise held to account too.

I don't get why the trust and fans are so against have a pro ccfc protest and include anti wasps, csf, etc within it along with anti sisu.

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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #319
oldfiver said:
But what is the "list" and who produced it
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There you go again.
Asking the Trust for a list but not asking Sisu for one.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #320
Nick said:
Coming from the bloke making money from the arena?

Still, an easy way to try and discredit me though...
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TBF Nick whenever anyone on here says anything anti or uncomplamentory about SISU
I start to count until you appear to defend, discredit or deflect.
I rarely get above 30.
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #321
stupot07 said:
We all want sisu out. Some of us also want the other culprits involved in our demise held to account too.

I don't get why the trust and fans are so against have a pro ccfc protest and include anti wasps, csf, etc within it along with anti sisu.

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Probably because it becomes a bit silly then.
We need to prioritise areas we can influence rather than those we can't.
I think Wasps and CCC are just working to the book so I don't see what a joint protest would do.
In fact they may be able to help us with the academy if CCFC/SISU get off their arses.
Perhaps the protest needs to be to force all parties to work together to sort the academy out, but CCFC/SISU need to tell us what the sticking points are.
I don't suppose they know themselves until they start talking. So again it's back to Sisu to get moving.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #322
Brylowes said:
So the trust is only fit for purpose if it's list of priorities tally' with yours
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At least I've made my priorities and my principles clear... Which is more than can be said for the Trust.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #323
Nick said:
Coming from the bloke making money from the arena?

Still, an easy way to try and discredit me though...
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Lot of people making money from the arena now that it's being used.
It's thanks to Sisu that CCFC are not getting a cut.
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #324
Ian1779 said:
At least I've made my priorities and my principles clear... Which is more than can be said for the Trust.
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Just don't get how you can continuously slag off the trust, when I've never seen you have
A strong word for those that are squeezing the life out of the club.
Astonishing IMHO
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #325
Ian1779 said:
At least I've made my priorities and my principles clear... Which is more than can be said for the Trust.
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Ah yes your principles how much are they going for these days
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #326
stupot07 said:
We all want sisu out. Some of us also want the other culprits involved in our demise held to account too.

I don't get why the trust and fans are so against have a pro ccfc protest and include anti wasps, csf, etc within it along with anti sisu.

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Who is against it?
The problem is no one wants to organise anything because all they get is the same old shit.
Then no one wants to go so we are back at square one.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #327
The problem is that some people cannot see past their desire to see the club do well and have the resources it needs. There are posters on here who still think that the club was entitled to much more support and flexibilty from the council and Higgs, and that CCFC has in some way been cheated. There's no way you can argue with such people because they appear incapable of taking a step back and trying to objectively look at what's happened and see the obvious which is that the owners of CCFC have screwed up massively, both in the running of the football club and in their treatment of the other parties. Amongst all the fuming at the council in particular, nobody has told me what they reasonably ought to have done differently - it's as if people expect that the council, at a time of spending cuts, should be offering unlimited help to a billionaire-owned private company to the point of providing millions of pounds in funding for a stadium which they were then meant to hand over for a fraction of the price it cost to build. Dream on!
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #328
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Ah yes your principles how much are they going for these days
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Sniff of Tims finger I believe.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #329
oucho said:
Amongst all the fuming at the council in particular, nobody has told me what they reasonably ought to have done differently
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I have, it's just you choose not to agree.

Therefore, what's the point of me doing it all again and again and again?
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #330
Brylowes said:
Just don't get how you can continuously slag off the trust, when I've never seen you have
A strong word for those that are squeezing the life out of the club.
Astonishing IMHO
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I don't continuously slag off the Trust - I have been consistent on this one issue.

I've had plenty of strong words for those squeezing the life out of the club - SISU, CCC, ACL, Wasps, former owners.... Unlike some I can see that the blame is widespread.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #331
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Ah yes your principles how much are they going for these days
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You've hit a new low... You must be proud.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #332
Right I'm now making my apologies to those I've offended today.
Now will someone please answer my post which said how come this has become an anti trust thread considering they had nothing to do with the protest
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #333
letsallsingtogether said:
Sniff of Tims finger I believe.
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Does that mean you sell out to Haskell, Hoffman, Elliott et al...
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #334
Ian1779 said:
You've hit a new low... You must be proud.
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Read my next post
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #335
Previous post and it was written before your response
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #336
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Right I'm now making my apologies to those I've offended today.
Now will someone please answer my post which said how come this has become an anti trust thread considering they had nothing to do with the protest
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I don't know exactly - but my point all along is that the Trust could co-ordinate protests against SISU, CCC, Wasps, CSF and everyone. But in order to maximise their effectiveness they need to clarify their stance. And IMO it has to be a condemnation of the Wasps move. This move will unite fans from both sides of argument I feel.

You might not believe it but I want the Trust to be successful. But I think it's needs to reaffirm its position.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #337
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Now will someone please answer my post which said how come this has become an anti trust thread considering they had nothing to do with the protest
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I have no clue tbh. My argument for this particular protest would be not to hold it unless there was trust backing, as they're threatening any future protest becoming a damp squib.

If it ever comes to a Trust protest, *then* we can bicker about whether we're pro or anti them In their defence, the ones they ended up backing (marches, hill v Cardiff - christ, was it even Cardiff?? I can't quite remember who we were playing even! and Arsenal cards) were general anti-everyone and wtf's happening to our club.

So I repeat, I have no clue why this has become an anti trust thread!
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #338
oucho said:
The problem is that some people cannot see past their desire to see the club do well and have the resources it needs. There are posters on here who still think that the club was entitled to much more support and flexibilty from the council and Higgs, and that CCFC has in some way been cheated. There's no way you can argue with such people because they appear incapable of taking a step back and trying to objectively look at what's happened and see the obvious which is that the owners of CCFC have screwed up massively, both in the running of the football club and in their treatment of the other parties. Amongst all the fuming at the council in particular, nobody has told me what they reasonably ought to have done differently - it's as if people expect that the council, at a time of spending cuts, should be offering unlimited help to a billionaire-owned private company to the point of providing millions of pounds in funding for a stadium which they were then meant to hand over for a fraction of the price it cost to build. Dream on!
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Well they could just give it all away and then be slated for not keeping it in perfect repair they can never win.
They have had scores of redundancies, local amenities closing down roads full of pot holes and then the local Football club wants to bankrupt them by taking them to court.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #339
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Previous post and it was written before your response
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Appreciate your response and I agree - don't wish to offend anyone... Passions sometimes run high.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #340
letsallsingtogether said:
Well they could just give it all away and then be slated for not keeping it in perfect repair they can never win.
They have had scores of redundancies, local amenities closing down roads full of pot holes and then the local Football club wants to bankrupt them by taking them to court.
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Bankrupt them?? Are you serious?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #341
Ian1779 said:
I don't know exactly - but my point all along is that the Trust could co-ordinate protests against SISU, CCC, Wasps, CSF and everyone. But in order to maximise their effectiveness they need to clarify their stance. And IMO it has to be a condemnation of the Wasps move. This move will unite fans from both sides of argument I feel.

You might not believe it but I want the Trust to be successful. But I think it's needs to reaffirm its position.
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Bollocks you want them to be successful BUT......

Funny how there is always a but.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #342
letsallsingtogether said:
Bollocks you want them to be successful BUT......

Funny how there is always a but.
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Bit like you always with an excuse.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #343
Ian1779 said:
Bankrupt them?? Are you serious?
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You know he means ACL
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #344
italiahorse said:
You know he means ACL
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So ACL are responsible for pot holes in roads??

No wonder they were struggling...
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #345
Deleted member 5849 said:
I have no clue tbh. My argument for this particular protest would be not to hold it unless there was trust backing, as they're threatening any future protest becoming a damp squib.

If it ever comes to a Trust protest, *then* we can bicker about whether we're pro or anti them In their defence, the ones they ended up backing (marches, hill v Cardiff - christ, was it even Cardiff?? I can't quite remember who we were playing even! and Arsenal cards) were general anti-everyone and wtf's happening to our club.

So I repeat, I have no clue why this has become an anti trust thread!
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Exactly there have been various anti everyone protests and they were shot down as stupid and irrelivant by the same posters who are still knocking them,
They can't win in this thankless task.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #346
Ian1779 said:
I don't know exactly - but my point all along is that the Trust could co-ordinate protests against SISU, CCC, Wasps, CSF and everyone. But in order to maximise their effectiveness they need to clarify their stance. And IMO it has to be a condemnation of the Wasps move. This move will unite fans from both sides of argument I feel.

You might not believe it but I want the Trust to be successful. But I think it's needs to reaffirm its position.
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But condemning the Wasp move will do absolutely nothing.
It will change nothing and I would suggest the Coventry ratepayer will back CCC over CCFC fans on both Wasps and CCC actions.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #347
letsallsingtogether said:
Exactly there have been various anti everyone protests and they were shot down as stupid and irrelivant by the same posters who are still knocking them,
They can't win in this thankless task.
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We got a statement condemning the sale of Roman Vincelot.

We didn't get a statement condemning the arrival of Wasps.

And you wonder why people are confused by what they stand for??
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #348
Ian1779 said:
So ACL are responsible for pot holes in roads??

No wonder they were struggling...
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Twist it how you want if it makes you feel good you k ow that is not what I meant.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #349
italiahorse said:
But condemning the Wasp move will do absolutely nothing.
It will change nothing and I would suggest the Coventry ratepayer will back CCC over CCFC fans on both Wasps and CCC actions.
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It will show CCFC fans that the Trust is not in the pocket of Wasps. It will unite fans far more than any other action will.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2016
  • #350
Ian1779 said:
I don't continuously slag off the Trust - I have been consistent on this one issue.

I've had plenty of strong words for those squeezing the life out of the club - SISU, CCC, ACL, Wasps, former owners.... Unlike some I can see that the blame is widespread.
Click to expand...
Some on here love to ridicule the trust at every opportunity, it sometimes gets a bit
Personal to, when you think they do their best in an impossible situation the treatment
They get is disgusting, meanwhile the same posters give SISU a free pass.
 
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