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covboy9

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  • Apr 26, 2024
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Priority is an experienced keeper

I think Moore and Wilson go, I’d like Collins to be shown the door too(ruthless robins like with maro

defence left back JDS(has turned it around) and bidwell fine at left back , can we get better probably

right back van ewijk is fine, lati utility

centre back, sign Binks, lati utility, i want another signing please

midfield, Kelly will leave, Allen probably needs upgrading , sheaf will probably leave and need’s replacing, two centre mids needed, O’Hare needs replacing palmer not good enough so AM needed

up front, keep hold of simms wright there will be bids, time for Godden to be sold, a new striker would be good but not priority

all in all I hope we use the loan market next season
priority list
1. Keeper
2. Centre mid
3. Number 10

after that another centre back and another centre mid
 

Brylowes

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #2
covboy9 said:
Priority is an experienced keeper

I think Moore and Wilson go, I’d like Collins to be shown the door too(ruthless robins like with maro

defence left back JDS(has turned it around) and bidwell fine at left back , can we get better probably

right back van ewijk is fine, lati utility

centre back, sign Binks, lati utility, i want another signing please

midfield, Kelly will leave, Allen probably needs upgrading , sheaf will probably leave and need’s replacing, two centre mids needed, O’Hare needs replacing palmer not good enough so AM needed

up front, keep hold of simms wright there will be bids, time for Godden to be sold, a new striker would be good but not priority

all in all I hope we use the loan market next season
priority list
1. Keeper
2. Centre mid
3. Number 10

after that another centre back and another centre mid
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I could pick at a lot of that but just regarding strikers, if Godden goes surely signing 1 striker (minimum) is a priority.
And If all 3 keepers leave we’ll have to bring 3 in won’t we.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #3
covboy9 said:
Priority is an experienced keeper

I think Moore and Wilson go, I’d like Collins to be shown the door too(ruthless robins like with maro

defence left back JDS(has turned it around) and bidwell fine at left back , can we get better probably

right back van ewijk is fine, lati utility

centre back, sign Binks, lati utility, i want another signing please

midfield, Kelly will leave, Allen probably needs upgrading , sheaf will probably leave and need’s replacing, two centre mids needed, O’Hare needs replacing palmer not good enough so AM needed

up front, keep hold of simms wright there will be bids, time for Godden to be sold, a new striker would be good but not priority

all in all I hope we use the loan market next season
priority list
1. Keeper
2. Centre mid
3. Number 10

after that another centre back and another centre mid
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I agree with a lot of that but you can't just get rid of players on long contracts like Collins. I guess we have to take the hit as this is the downside of the model.

Obviously a new keeper is top priority.

I thought Kelly was fine on Wednesday and is useful back up if cheap. Allen has been unlucky and could be a useful squad plater next season.But assuming Sheaf goes we need a centre mid and an AM in place of O'Hare.

We also need much more depth in the squad. I think next year will end up being another transitional season with quite a lot if new players in the squad.
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #4
covboy9 said:
Priority is an experienced keeper

I think Moore and Wilson go, I’d like Collins to be shown the door too(ruthless robins like with maro

defence left back JDS(has turned it around) and bidwell fine at left back , can we get better probably

right back van ewijk is fine, lati utility

centre back, sign Binks, lati utility, i want another signing please

midfield, Kelly will leave, Allen probably needs upgrading , sheaf will probably leave and need’s replacing, two centre mids needed, O’Hare needs replacing palmer not good enough so AM needed

up front, keep hold of simms wright there will be bids, time for Godden to be sold, a new striker would be good but not priority

all in all I hope we use the loan market next season
priority list
1. Keeper
2. Centre mid
3. Number 10

after that another centre back and another centre mid
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Experienced Mcfadzean type CB, late 20's or early 30's
New 6ft 4inc plus GK late 20's
young high potential RW to give cover/competition for Sakamoto
New young high prospect striker as back up for Simms who we can develop

Controversially, i dont think we need to replace Ohare. I would like us to go with three in midfield with Eccles the holder, and Sheaf and Torp the box to box midfielders in front of him. I would personally keep Kelly unless we get that Kyprianou from Peterboro who would be a great signing.

Getting a new no 10 as good as or better than Ohare will be far too expensive and of course no guarantee the signing is successful, and with Torp i think we can adapt that midfield to accomodate him Sheaf and Eccles, and we also have Allen as well.
 

TomRad85

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #5
Don't really want to buy a 'backup' anything. All our new signings should be challenging for place in the first 11.

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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #6
Deleted member 9744 said:
I agree with a lot of that but you can't just get rid of players on long contracts like Collins. I guess we have to take the hit as this is the downside of the model.

Obviously a new keeper is top priority.

I thought Kelly was fine on Wednesday and is useful back up if cheap. Allen has been unlucky and could be a useful squad plater next season.But assuming Sheaf goes we need a centre mid and an AM in place of O'Hare.

We also need much more depth in the squad. I think next year will end up being another transitional season with quite a lot if new players in the squad.
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Id keep Kelly and Allen as well two quality back up options, i suppose the concern with Kelly is can he stay fit.
Collins wont be sold, he wil be no.2 next season, Wilson at his age wont want to be no.2 understandably.
I wouldnt get a no.10, just dont think we can afford it as to get as good or better than Ohare will be £8m plus and its always a risk spending that amount of money for a club like us. Sheaf Eccles Torp would be formidable with Wright Simms and Sakamoto in fornt of them.
Definitely need more depth of course though.
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #7
TomRad85 said:
Don't really want to buy a 'backup' anything. All our new signings should be challenging for place in the first 11.

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Well when i say cover/back up, inherent in that is they must also be challenging for the first team so essentially the same level as the player they are competing with
 
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TomRad85

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  • Apr 26, 2024
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messiahrobins said:
Well when i say cover/back up, inherent in that is they must also be challenging for the first team so essentially the same level as the player they are competing with
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Correct. The drop off from the 1st 11, outside of a couple of players, has been noticeable. New players need to be interchangeable with what is considered the current 1st 11.

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olderskyblue

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #9
Could Sakamoto play no 10 ?
 

blunted

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #10
Think O'Hare will leave, Kelly will probably go to a lower division club and Moore will be released. Be surprised if we buy a new goalie. Collins has been pants recently but was fine for most of the season. Worried that Godden has gone from excellent back up to looking as if he has lost it. However, he has a year to go, (I think), so why would he move unless it suits him? Allen, Tatsu and Tavares will hopefully have recovered from bad injuries. The latter I thought was on his way out but has really stepped up recently.
There is a danger our best players will be cherry picked. Sheaf has been brilliant and we were poor when he was injured. Luton apparently bid £8 million in January. Hadji Wright and Simms took a long time to settle but may attract interest. If you score goals there is always demand. Hadji Wright when fit is a handfull.
We have to hope Vic moves on and we get a windfall.
Rumour has it Bologna want stupid money for Binks which is a shame, as before the injury he was improving dramatically accoring to MR and he is only 22.
Hopefully we can get an experienced but not too old centre back in the Fadz mould, a midfield enforcer who can play a bit and a striker or number 10 who can chip in with goals and assists.
Whilst King does not like loans, two top Prem youngsters would help to give the squad depth.
A lot of people think Burrows will come back as a world beater, but it is a big step up from League 1 and I'm not sure he has played so much since his car crash. Hopefully Burrows and Obikwu will be good enough to supplement the squad.
 
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ptr

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #11
olderskyblue said:
Could Sakamoto play no 10 ?
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Probably. Same as Lati can play in midfield and at right back. Doesn’t mean he’s any good there. He’s a right winger all day long.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #12
A big midfield signing would push us to the next level. Plus it would plug the O’Hare gap. We’ve got enough goals up front. Tavares = Godden and we have EMC coming in and Saka returning. Make the splash in midfield. Just replace elsewhere ie Kelly/Binks
 

Diogenes

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #13
ptr said:
Probably. Same as Lati can play in midfield and at right back. Doesn’t mean he’s any good there. He’s a right winger all day long.
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Didn't have Saka down as a David Duke type
 

Sick Boy

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #14
The only way I’d keep Kelly is a cheap pay as you play deal.
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #15
olderskyblue said:
Could Sakamoto play no 10 ?
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I think that was he was brought in for originally tbh. i think he would perfect in that role as well.
 
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Gleneagles65

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #16
We will be one of the few clubs who actually have money to spend! Bookmark this but Coventry will go up autos next season.
 

zuni

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #17
We have to many backup players all of which lack the quality we need,

keep Collins as no2 and Kelly
binks if we can

get rid of Godden, pity been a great player but not taking us forward
palmer…almost good but not good enough
allan just doesn’t have the quality but quality does work hard
wilson and moore
controversial…eccles, we need better
ohare gone anyway
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #18
zuni said:
We have to many backup players all of which lack the quality we need,

keep Collins as no2 and Kelly
binks if we can

get rid of Godden, pity been a great player but not taking us forward
palmer…almost good but not good enough
allan just doesn’t have the quality but quality does work hard
wilson and moore
controversial…eccles, we need better
ohare gone anyway
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There’s no way Kelly will be here next season.
 
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zuni

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #19
Sick Boy said:
There’s no way Kelly will be here next season.
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I agree tbh...still think a 1 yr extension would work
 

Sick Boy

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #20
zuni said:
I agree tbh...still think a 1 yr extension would work
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It’s the a waste of a wage, especially as he’s going to be on quite a bit as club captain and promotion wage increases. He’s been great for us but it’s time to move on.
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #21
Sick Boy said:
The only way I’d keep Kelly is a cheap pay as you play deal.
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Name a single player who has signed up for a pay as you play deal.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #22
Speedies_Chips said:
Name a single player who has signed up for a pay as you play deal.
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There have been some but the point is that we won’t offer him a new contract and we shouldn’t do either.
 
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Levship20

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #23
I would keep Kelly in a coaching/player role
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #24
zuni said:
We have to many backup players all of which lack the quality we need,

keep Collins as no2 and Kelly
binks if we can

get rid of Godden, pity been a great player but not taking us forward
palmer…almost good but not good enough
allan just doesn’t have the quality but quality does work hard
wilson and moore
controversial…eccles, we need better
ohare gone anyway
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Getting rid of Eccles is a ridiculous view. The lads been getting better and better
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #25
Saddlebrains said:
Getting rid of Eccles is a ridiculous view. The lads been getting better and better
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Yeah suggesting to get rid of Eccles and keep Kelly is just madness at this point.
 
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zuni

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #26
Saddlebrains said:
Getting rid of Eccles is a ridiculous view. The lads been getting better and better
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Said it was controversial
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #27
Saddlebrains said:
Getting rid of Eccles is a ridiculous view. The lads been getting better and better
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He's been player of the season. Obviously rated really highly by Robins and Viveash and played most games for well over a year and a half.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #28
Sick Boy said:
Yeah suggesting to get rid of Eccles and keep Kelly is just madness at this point.
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Absolutely bonkers. I don't even know what Eccles would sell for, it's very hard to gauge what other clubs would value him at.

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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #29
zuni said:
We have to many backup players all of which lack the quality we need,

keep Collins as no2 and Kelly
binks if we can

get rid of Godden, pity been a great player but not taking us forward
palmer…almost good but not good enough
allan just doesn’t have the quality but quality does work hard
wilson and moore
controversial…eccles, we need better
ohare gone anyway
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Get rid of Eccles? What are you on been 1 of our best players where are you going to get better without spending big money.
"We have to many back up players" the very thing we have been short of the likes of Palmer and Allen IMO you keep.
As for O'Hare I know odds are against but until pen is put to paper there is still time to convince him he future is here.
The likes of Godden and Kelly will move on as age catches up with them and thanks for their time here.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #30
A lot of people thinking the Autos are achievable next year which I don't think is realistic unless Doug is spending 25-30 mil again.

One of Leeds/Southampton/Ipswich will be staying down, Burnley went up with 100+ points last season, Shef Utd went up 90 + points and signed our best player, West Brom have new owner's so likely to spend, Norwich, Hull and Middlesbrough also likely in the mix with us.

As much as I loved the cup run I'd prioritise the league next season. Try and be in the and around the playoffs all season and not playing catch up after Xmas.

Players coming in need to be better than current players so this year's starters become squad players thus improving the first team and squad depth. Wish list would be;
New keeper
No10
Centre mid box to box
Right winger (back up)
Striker (Back up)


Also have Burrows, Obikwu and Howley returning from loan. Burrows has played 35 games for Lincoln, Obikwu 16 games 3 goals for Grimsby mainly from the bench (since Jan) , Howley a disappointing 13 games again mainly from the bench.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #31
skyblue025 said:
A lot of people thinking the Autos are achievable next year which I don't think is realistic unless Doug is spending 25-30 mil again.

One of Leeds/Southampton/Ipswich will be staying down, Burnley went up with 100+ points last season, Shef Utd went up 90 + points and signed our best player, West Brom have new owner's so likely to spend, Norwich, Hull and Middlesbrough also likely in the mix with us.

As much as I loved the cup run I'd prioritise the league next season. Try and be in the and around the playoffs all season and not playing catch up after Xmas.
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£18m for autos IMO. sell sheaf for £12m Vik money is around £6m. So doable.

£4.5m AM
£4.5m CM
£3M GK
£3M LB
£1.5m RW
£1.5m CB
CB, CM, ST frees.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #32
shmmeee said:
£18m for autos IMO. sell sheaf for £12m Vik money is around £6m. So doable.

£4.5m AM
£4.5m CM
£3M GK
£3M LB
£1.5m RW
£1.5m CB
CB, CM, ST frees.
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Selling Sheaf would be ridiculous
 
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  • Apr 27, 2024
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Ccfcisparks said:
Selling Sheaf would be ridiculous
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It's the model innit..
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #34
Ccfcisparks said:
Selling Sheaf would be ridiculous
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We aren’t a sheiks play thing. Don’t sell Sheaf and you’ll have trouble replacing O’Hare or strengthening the squad.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 27, 2024
  • #35
Ccfcisparks said:
Selling Sheaf would be ridiculous
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He wants to play at a higher level. Doesn't mean we have to sell him of course, but if he wants out and we get (suitable) offers in then I don't see us keeping him against his will.
 
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