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NEWS: Coventry City and EFL reach 'Agreed Decision' regarding postponements sanction (4 Viewers)

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #106
The Philosopher said:
So let’s say it’s the last game of the season - we are in a rented stadium with no control over when FG decide to put a concert / gaming event / monster truck show on.

Let’s say that at that point we are 6 points outside of playoffs and 10 clear of relegation. It’s dead rubber time.

Do we postpone the match to get the 5 points deducted rather than have them hanging over us the next season?

Just kicking around thoughts.
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What?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #107
Skyblueweeman said:
So he's been suckered in by lies and been naive. Not a great look. If that's the case I guess.
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There was something in a CT article somewhere I can remember reading it .
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #108
The Philosopher said:
So let’s say it’s the last game of the season - we are in a rented stadium with no control over when FG decide to put a concert / gaming event / monster truck show on.

Let’s say that at that point we are 6 points outside of playoffs and 10 clear of relegation. It’s dead rubber time.

Do we postpone the match to get the 5 points deducted rather than have them hanging over us the next season?

Just kicking around thoughts.
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How about we just don’t postpone fixtures at all?
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #109
Said earlier that the Sunderland forum would probably arrange an angry mob to protest this decision. I've just looked and wasn't far wrong. Now 2 threads about this on RTG.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #110
Happy_Martian said:
Said earlier that the Sunderland forum would probably arrange an angry mob to protest this decision. I've just looked and wasn't far wrong. Now 2 threads about this on RTG.
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Mackem Obsession-the new fragrance from Hoy Saint Laurent
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #111
The Philosopher said:
So let’s say it’s the last game of the season - we are in a rented stadium with no control over when FG decide to put a concert / gaming event / monster truck show on.

Let’s say that at that point we are 6 points outside of playoffs and 10 clear of relegation. It’s dead rubber time.

Do we postpone the match to get the 5 points deducted rather than have them hanging over us the next season?

Just kicking around thoughts.
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You mean like taking a fifth yellow ?
So a postponement involving Middlesbrough in a rearranged game where they gain the advantage of Sunderland who have just gained sixth position on the final Sunday of the season and subsequently beat us, leaving us two points free from the relegation zone,and Sunderland in 7th place .
Fair enough lol.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #112
wingy said:
You mean like taking a fifth yellow ?
So a postponement involving Middlesbrough in a rearranged game where they gain the advantage of Sunderland who have just gained sixth position on the final Sunday of the season and subsequently beat us, leaving us two points free from the relegation zone,and Sunderland in 7th place .
Fair enough lol.
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It’s the latest in a long line of takes as bad as Simon Moore in August
 
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Sky Blue Heaven

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #113
I’m sure the pitch will be fine…..but The CBS Arena is hosting the Arnold Clark Cup on Sunday 19th February, a week before the Sunderland game:

Arnold Clark Cup

www.coventrybuildingsocietyarena.co.uk
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #114
Sky Blue Heaven said:
Hopefully the pitch holds up….The CBS Arena is hosting the Arnold Clark Cup on Sunday 19th February, a week before the Sunderland game:

Arnold Clark Cup

www.coventrybuildingsocietyarena.co.uk
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Two games in a day too.
 

Sky Blue Heaven

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #115
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Two games in a day too.
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I decided to edit my original post, must stay positive! Nothing to worry about
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #116
Skyblueweeman said:
Wait, I haven't said anything about proof.

You said something along the lines of DB had said no such agreement was in place for a pitch replacement. I asked you to provide a link as I hadn't seen it (genuinely).

If you can't find/don't have a link, that's fine, just say it. Don't try (as per usual) and twist it by saying I've offered no proof an agreement existed in writing. I never said there was one.
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You’ve provided proof yourself
 

Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #117
Didn't Wasps say publicly there would be a new pitch? Was it when we came back from Brum?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #118
Nick said:
Didn't Wasps say publicly there would be a new pitch? Was it when we came back from Brum?
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vaughan and Boddy in that meeting with the photo of them said there would be yes
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #119
Grendel said:
vaughan and Boddy in that meeting with the photo of them said there would be yes
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So if it was or wasn't in writing that Wasps would do it but they didn't. How would it be different? They still wouldn't have been able to afford it. We still wouldn't have got any damages.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #120
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s the latest in a long line of takes as bad as Simon Moore in August
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Just realised it all falls down as we're not at home!,but the match before being Birmingham at home is, leaving the possibility that we could still be relegated by 1 point.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #121
Nick said:
So if it was or wasn't in writing that Wasps would do it but they didn't. How would it be different? They still wouldn't have been able to afford it. We still wouldn't have got any damages.
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We would have raised a claim which would have shown in the admin report and really it shows and highlights a much bigger issue

The club it seems weren’t paid for the F and B money and that’s the claim.

To me it’s very concerning we went along with a verbal agreement and ran with it with clear knowledge the company was insolvent - or at least close to it

When we struck the deal to come back looking at the press at the time it was a licence. That gave again zero protection. Wasps were a high risk company so by not having a proper lease we were exposed. I can’t see any reason wasps wouldn’t agree a sub lease but it would have cost more

Now in 22 or so weeks we are homeless unless these same people can negotiate a deal with Mike Ashley.

Can’t say I’m confident
 

Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #122
Grendel said:
We would have raised a claim which would have shown in the admin report and really it shows and highlights a much bigger issue

The club it seems weren’t paid for the F and B money and that’s the claim.

To me it’s very concerning we went along with a verbal agreement and ran with it with clear knowledge the company was insolvent - or at least close to it

When we struck the deal to come back looking at the press at the time it was a licence. That gave again zero protection. Wasps were a high risk company so by not having a proper lease we were exposed. I can’t see any reason wasps wouldn’t agree a sub lease but it would have cost more

Now in 22 or so weeks we are homeless unless these same people can negotiate a deal with Mike Ashley.

Can’t say I’m confident
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We still wouldn't have been a secured creditor so even if we had a claim about the pitch it would have just vanished like everything else.

It wouldn't have changed anything if the agreement for the new pitch was in writing or blood. We could have said we have all the claims in the world but they would have vanished.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #123
Nick said:
We still wouldn't have been a secured creditor so even if we had a claim about the pitch it would have just vanished like everything else.

It wouldn't have changed anything if the agreement for the new pitch was in writing or blood.
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my point is it would still be owed - it isn’t - and the bigger point again is these are the people negotiating a new deal to stop us being homeless in 5 months
 

Nick

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #124
Grendel said:
my point is it would still be owed - it isn’t - and the bigger point again is these are the people negotiating a new deal to stop us being homeless in 5 months
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It wouldn't still be owed. It would have vanished with admin like everything else did.
 

MalcSB

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #125
Grendel said:
We would have raised a claim which would have shown in the admin report and really it shows and highlights a much bigger issue

The club it seems weren’t paid for the F and B money and that’s the claim.

To me it’s very concerning we went along with a verbal agreement and ran with it with clear knowledge the company was insolvent - or at least close to it

When we struck the deal to come back looking at the press at the time it was a licence. That gave again zero protection. Wasps were a high risk company so by not having a proper lease we were exposed. I can’t see any reason wasps wouldn’t agree a sub lease but it would have cost more

Now in 22 or so weeks we are homeless unless these same people can negotiate a deal with Mike Ashley.

Can’t say I’m confident
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It’s actually Andy Street’s fault.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #126
Grendel said:
You’ve provided proof yourself
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So you can't provide a link. Cool, that's all that I asked for.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #127
Happy_Martian said:
Said earlier that the Sunderland forum would probably arrange an angry mob to protest this decision. I've just looked and wasn't far wrong. Now 2 threads about this on RTG.
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There are alot of threads about coventry on that board, it's a very one sides *rivalry shall we say
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #128
Grendel said:
my point is it would still be owed - it isn’t - and the bigger point again is these are the people negotiating a new deal to stop us being homeless in 5 months
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It’ll be the new owner negotiating any deal from the summer. Assuming it’s gone through by then
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #129
Grendel said:
We would have raised a claim which would have shown in the admin report and really it shows and highlights a much bigger issue

The club it seems weren’t paid for the F and B money and that’s the claim.

To me it’s very concerning we went along with a verbal agreement and ran with it with clear knowledge the company was insolvent - or at least close to it

When we struck the deal to come back looking at the press at the time it was a licence. That gave again zero protection. Wasps were a high risk company so by not having a proper lease we were exposed. I can’t see any reason wasps wouldn’t agree a sub lease but it would have cost more

Now in 22 or so weeks we are homeless unless these same people can negotiate a deal with Mike Ashley.

Can’t say I’m confident
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About a deal???
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #130
Sky Blue Pete said:
About a deal???
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yes we are poor at both timing and content
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #131
Grendel said:
yes we are poor at both timing and content
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I’d hope that if King is ever confirmed in charge that Boddy is first out of the door. Small time schmuck in charge of a Championship club
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #132
The Philosopher said:
So let’s say it’s the last game of the season - we are in a rented stadium with no control over when FG decide to put a concert / gaming event / monster truck show on.

Let’s say that at that point we are 6 points outside of playoffs and 10 clear of relegation. It’s dead rubber time.

Do we postpone the match to get the 5 points deducted rather than have them hanging over us the next season?

Just kicking around thoughts.
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If we had a game called off because of heavy snow would we have a 5 point dedication.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #133
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
If we had a game called off because of heavy snow would we have a 5 point dedication.
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No
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #134
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No
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Why when the pitch was the fault of Wasps and the CWG.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #135
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Why when the pitch was the fault of Wasps and the CWG.
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If the snowfall happened several weeks earlier but we didn't postpone the match until a day or two before then we're probably getting a points deduction.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #136
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
If we had a game called off because of heavy snow would we have a 5 point dedication.
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I believe the difference would be if a game is affected by weather, then the decision is made by the EFL themselves, or by the Police if its the area around the stadium is considered unsafe. Both circumstances I believe should be covered by EFL regulations, therefore wouldn't apply.
 
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ccfc922

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  • Dec 24, 2022
  • #137
Londonccfcfan said:
Suspended 5 points is harsh imo.

No fault ar all of our own, no chance of us clawing back the compensation.

5 points is massive. Need to make sure the pitch is in tip top condition for a year and a half.

Also if we go up this season. Then EFL has jurisdiction in Premier so the suspended 5 point deduction next year means zilch.
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Didn't Bournemouth get chased by the EFL when they cheated their way to the PL originally?
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 24, 2022
  • #138
Difference is the pitch will have proper maintenance weather cancellations are by a referee or if there’s a deluge of snow it can be the police on safety grounds, both are rare events nowadays, the reason we have had our wrists slapped over our situation from the EFL is we should have raised the problem earlier and maybe matches could have been reversed. or something I think EFL have been reasonable with us and the matter has now been put to bed, won’t happen again.
 
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