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letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #36
Liquid Gold said:
I will never get behind the trust until they strongly condemn Wasps being here. Its a complete red line to me.
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Then you will find something else or someone else to blame.
Where were you all before the Wasps were here?
Nowhere you won't be missed.
Only happy when you are blaming everyone but our shit owners.
Well a majority of the fans have had enough can't just keep sitting there all softly softly our club is dying losing fans every week need to stop the rot before it is to late.
So the club won't want to speak to the Trust well believe me won't be the first time, they will be back.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #37
Ian1779 said:
The Trust want the club to negotiate with parties to secure future of academy and stadium - sensible suggestion. But in the same breath they won't align themselves with the club which surely is the most obvious of things to do. It comes across as contradictory.
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Only to the likes of you and the 1%ers
 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #38
letsallsingtogether said:
Only to the likes of you and the 1%ers
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Of course I forgot about you not wanting to upset the poor Wasps people.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #39
Ian1779 said:
Of course I forgot about you not wanting to upset the poor Wasps people.
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In fairness, last did protest and i think he would again.

I prefer his approach of screw everybody, same as bhsb.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #40
letsallsingtogether said:
Then you will find something else or someone else to blame.
Where were you all before the Wasps were here?
Nowhere you won't be missed.
Only happy when you are blaming everyone but our shit owners.
Well a majority of the fans have had enough can't just keep sitting there all softly softly our club is dying losing fans every week need to stop the rot before it is to late.
So the club won't want to speak to the Trust well believe me won't be the first time, they will be back.
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This is why we're fucked. Because I have a different opinion to you you go off on a rant. Club is dying and the only thing to stop it is fan unity, mouthing off is making things worse. Stop being a dick.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #41
It's starting to get clearer and clearer what's happening isn't it?

It will be the same whisper as italia is getting in his ear
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #42
Nick said:
It's starting to get clearer and clearer what's happening isn't it?

It will be the same whisper as italia is getting in his ear
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Of course - sweet nothings - Nicky and mr Coventry at a kenilworth pub soon?
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #43
For God's sake you lot; the Trust are trying to make a difference here and all you lot can do is moan and pick holes in their statement. Get real; we must do something if we are genuinely concerned about the future of our club.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #44
Nick said:
In fairness, last did protest and i think he would again.

I prefer his approach of screw everybody, same as bhsb.
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That may be so, and fair play to him. But the condescending crap about being a SISU sympathiser, or that the Trust are beyond criticism because they organise some protests is wearing thin.

We all have different opinions but mine isn't worth less because I haven't organised a protest.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #45
Grendel said:
Of course - sweet nothings - Nicky and mr Coventry at a kenilworth pub soon?
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Pretty certain Nick doesn't like being called Nicky to be honest.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #46
Otis said:
They should have done so when Wasps first came here, but it's a bit of a the horse has bolted situation now and Wasps won't be going anywhere unless this Coventry project of theirs fails. Best way for that is for no-one to go and watch them.

I do think though, the Trust now coming out and starting to condemn Wasps for coming here, at this stage in the game, is all a little too late.

The Trust should have been against them coming, but we are now 2 years down the line and I do think the emphasis now has to be on getting all sides sat round a table talking again.
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What took the wind out of my sails was Wasps fans didn't really object.

SISU's threats to go their own way ground and academy has proved farcical. Even embarrassing as a bargaining tool.

They need to stop posturing and start negotiating.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #47
Ian1779 said:
Of course I forgot about you not wanting to upset the poor Wasps people.
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I was there where where you?
I was one of the 5 that actually took time off work.
I blame them all just blame Sisu for totally fucking up the club I love.
The others just played lip service to what our owners wanted.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #48
Hobo said:
What took the wind out of my sails was Wasps fans didn't really object.

SISU's threats to go their own way ground and academy has proved farcical. Even embarrassing as a bargaining tool.

They need to stop posturing and start negotiating.
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They do, but the same goes for all sides.

Have said it before, as have others too, if I was Sisu I would be calling Wasps bluff and be saying they are prepared to stop the legal action and it they do, what deal are Wasps going to offer?

Get them all back round the table. I'm sure that if Sisu said they were prepared to halt the legals, but Wasps insisted no dialogue until they actually did, many more fans would sit up and take notice.

First step would be Sisu saying they are prepared to stop the legal challenges. Would be the first olive branch and I do think that though some would still be having a right old go at them, many like myself would be commending them for at least trying to take the first step.

I know what sort of replies this will get from some, but there are many like me for certain and they just want to see our club back on track.

I don't particularly hate Sisu and if they did offer to halt proceedings they would certainly be getting some plaudits from me and I'm sure many others too.
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #49
Ian1779 said:
That may be so, and fair play to him. But the condescending crap about being a SISU sympathiser, or that the Trust are beyond criticism because they organise some protests is wearing thin.

We all have different opinions but mine isn't worth less because I haven't organised a protest.
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Grow up you cry because the trust won't condemn the Wasps but you never cared before they were here
as for being condescending read your own posts.
everyone who disagrees with you is a Wasps fan.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #50
Otis said:
They do, but the same goes for all sides.

Have said it before, as have others too, if I was Sisu I would be calling Wasps bluff and be saying they are prepared to stop the legal action and it they do, what deal are Wasps going to offer?

Get them all back round the table. I'm sure that if Sisu said they were prepared to halt the legals, but Wasps insisted no dialogue until they actually did, many more fans would sit up and take notice.

First step would be Sisu saying they are prepared to stop the legal challenges. Would be the first olive branch and I do think that though some would still be having a right old go at them, many like myself would be commending them for at least trying to take the first step.

I know what sort of replies this will get from some, but there are many like me for certain and they just want to see our club back on track.

I don't particularly hate Sisu and if they did offer to halt proceedings they would certainly be getting some plaudits from me and I'm sure many others too.
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They can't, in all probability, stop any legal action which is why it's mentioned.

The head of the trust confirmed a deal had been offered anyway and this is an outright lie.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #51
letsallsingtogether said:
I was there where where you?
I was one of the 5 that actually took time off work.
I blame them all just blame Sisu for totally fucking up the club I love.
The others just played lip service to what our owners wanted.
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And fair play to you for doing it.

Everyone blames SISU and everyone for all being complicit in this shit place we find ourselves. I just think the Trust could adapt their stance to encourage more people to get behind their cause. Is that so unreasonable??
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #52
Ian1779 said:
That may be so, and fair play to him. But the condescending crap about being a SISU sympathiser, or that the Trust are beyond criticism because they organise some protests is wearing thin.

We all have different opinions but mine isn't worth less because I haven't organised a protest.
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Of course the trust aren't beyond criticism but when people criticise everything ie I'm not getting behind them until they do this until they do that it gets a bit tiresome. Just like the guy on Cwr last night complaining about every thing no investment etc and the only game he's been to at the Ricoh was the gillingham game and didn't go to Highfield road for years then wants a massive input.
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Grendel

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #53
letsallsingtogether said:
Grow up you cry because the trust won't condemn the Wasps but you never cared before they were here
as for being condescending read your own posts.
everyone who disagrees with you is a Wasps fan.
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What I never understand is why statements are released saying the club must never move from its city but they've actually invited Eastwod to meetings. How can you explain that dichotomy.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #54
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Of course the trust aren't beyond criticism but when people criticise everything ie I'm not getting behind them until they do this until they do that it gets a bit tiresome. Just like the guy on Cwr last night complaining about every thing no investment etc and the only game he's been to at the Ricoh was the gillingham game and didn't go to Highfield road for years then wants a massive input.
M
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He was funny to be fair.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #55
Grendel said:
What I never understand is why statements are released saying the club must never move from its city but they've actually invited Eastwod to meetings. How can you explain that dichotomy.
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that's the thing, there is outrage if the club are going to move.

All friendly with wasps though, daren't say anything
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #56
Why not share what the actual plan is? It's just more whisper in the ear type stuff.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #57
Grendel said:
They can't, in all probability, stop any legal action which is why it's mentioned.

The head of the trust confirmed a deal had been offered anyway and this is an outright lie.
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What is the outright lie? I'm confused by your statement.

Are you saying the head of the trust confirmed that Wasps had offered a deal to the club, but it wasn't true?

If that's what you are talking about, didn't it transpires that someone had jumped the gun a bit and it appeared in a Twitter feed in error (consequently)?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #58
letsallsingtogether said:
Grow up you cry because the trust won't condemn the Wasps but you never cared before they were here
as for being condescending read your own posts.
everyone who disagrees with you is a Wasps fan.
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Hey, Sundays are good for me, far better than Saturdays... I reckon it's time we bought a few Wasps tickets and went to a Wasps game you know.

Have to check I'm not down to do something after all (that'd be a damp squib eh ) but I reckon 18th September v Bristol could be a date. Assume it's pay on the gate...
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #59
Grendel said:
Of course - sweet nothings - Nicky and mr Coventry at a kenilworth pub soon?
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Or you and Tim at the Travel Lodge.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #60
Otis said:
What is the outright lie? I'm confused by your statement.

Are you saying the head of the trust confirmed that Wasps had offered a deal to the club, but it wasn't true?

If that's what you are talking about, didn't it transpires that someone had jumped the gun a bit and it appeared in a Twitter feed in error (consequently)?
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Steve.b50 said on here today they'd offered a long term deal - which is also what I have been told.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #61
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Of course the trust aren't beyond criticism but when people criticise everything ie I'm not getting behind them until they do this until they do that it gets a bit tiresome. Just like the guy on Cwr last night complaining about every thing no investment etc and the only game he's been to at the Ricoh was the gillingham game and didn't go to Highfield road for years then wants a massive input.
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A bit like we won't negotiate with club until they do this do that etc??
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #62
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hey, Sundays are good for me, far better than Saturdays... I reckon it's time we bought a few Wasps tickets and went to a Wasps game you know.

Have to check I'm not down to do something after all (that'd be a damp squib eh ) but I reckon 18th September v Bristol could be a date. Assume it's pay on the gate...
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I'm sure Grendel could get us a couple of freebees
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #63
letsallsingtogether said:
Or you and Tim at the Travel Lodge.
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It was an Ibis actually. His expenses don't run to a travel lodge.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #64
letsallsingtogether said:
I'm sure Grendel could get us a couple of freebees
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Even better eh. Take in a free game, while wearing a nice fetching shade of Sky Blue.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #65
Grendel said:
Steve.b50 said on here today they'd offered a long term deal - which is also what I have been told.
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Yeah, but didn't they then say that was incorrect later?

Thought someone came out and said the gun had been jumped and assumptions made didn't they?
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #66
Ian1779 said:
A bit like we won't negotiate with club until they do this do that etc??
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What like getting an email?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #67
Otis said:
What is the outright lie? I'm confused by your statement.

Are you saying the head of the trust confirmed that Wasps had offered a deal to the club, but it wasn't true?

If that's what you are talking about, didn't it transpires that someone had jumped the gun a bit and it appeared in a Twitter feed in error (consequently)?
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The legal 'noise' excuse wasps gave

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/we-felt-difficult-conclude-long-11419646

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #68
Otis said:
They do, but the same goes for all sides.

Have said it before, as have others too, if I was Sisu I would be calling Wasps bluff and be saying they are prepared to stop the legal action and it they do, what deal are Wasps going to offer?

Get them all back round the table. I'm sure that if Sisu said they were prepared to halt the legals, but Wasps insisted no dialogue until they actually did, many more fans would sit up and take notice.

First step would be Sisu saying they are prepared to stop the legal challenges. Would be the first olive branch and I do think that though some would still be having a right old go at them, many like myself would be commending them for at least trying to take the first step.

I know what sort of replies this will get from some, but there are many like me for certain and they just want to see our club back on track.

I don't particularly hate Sisu and if they did offer to halt proceedings they would certainly be getting some plaudits from me and I'm sure many others too.
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If you look at the history SISU keep walking away from the table.

People just got exasperated by them

Dare I quote Anne Lucas 're the Ricoh, "they offered no viable long term plan."

Without taking sides that seems to have become a consistent trait: Ricoh negotiations, alternative ground, academy, even in court!

But for now I still have a team to support.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #69
Who told you? Don't have to name names, but someone from the trust?
 
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Rodders1

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2016
  • #70
Nick said:
Probably another haskell situation, somebody has mentioned fan ownership again.

It's certainly trying to get the blame diverted away from people before anything has happened.

Id put money on somebody being in their ear again.

A joke really.

They have listed the evidence but trying to make out it is the council falling victim to lawyers...

Still no bad word against wasps
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Fan ownership would be fantastic... What wrong with that?
 
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