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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Thursday at 10:54 AM
  • #141
Nick said:
Yeah but the context is timing etc.

Weren't proposals sent years ago by SISU and Cov Rugby as well? The one where the council said it was a "fishing exercise" or something.
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I agree

yes I think so

I think John and coventry rugby are a massive ally in this and have excellent relationshops with the council
 

Balli001

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 10:57 AM
  • #142
Sky Blue Pete said:
Haven’t taken it in the wrong way
We have both no power and huge power us fans
We can literally make or break a club
He couldn’t have said that no
He could have said we have other plans that were exploring and will discuss them in good time for our input. No!!!! This looks like he’s deliberately kept something in bad faith
That’s bloody annoying and you and everyone should be annoyed
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I take it as an owner is exploring possibilities very loosely as a back up option based on only having a 3 year lease.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 10:57 AM
  • #143
it's bollocks - if you read lego heads after his story it's just as even he admits just a sensible precaution
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Thursday at 10:59 AM
  • #144
Sky Blue Pete said:
I agree

yes I think so

I think John and coventry rugby are a massive ally in this and have excellent relationshops with the council
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BREAKING: Coventry City’s secret new stadium plan ‘held up for a year by council’ amid the great Ricoh rip-off, claims Sisu

COVENTRY City want to build a new stadium at an identified council-owned site but the council has been secretly holding it up for a year, the club’s owners have said today.
coventryobserver.co.uk

Thats the one, the council tried to put in a clause against football there.

If I remember the council said they hadn't received anything then did a U turn saying they had but it was dismissed for a Fishing exercise.
 
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duffer

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  • Thursday at 11:01 AM
  • #145
SBT said:
No, it was CWR

Coventry City Council has 'no plans' to offer Wasps financial support

Seems pretty obvious that Gilbert has a sympathetic source inside the council and I imagine this is where today’s story is from too
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That's a different story. The original story about the council bailing out Wasps in secret was Les Reid.

The council were trying to do a deal in secret, and Reid publicised it. Then, apparently, the council put pressure on the CET to get rid of Reid, they sacked him, he took them to a tribunal and won his case. Massively shabby by both the council and CET. I might not recall what I had for breakfast, but this I remember well.

Edit: Sorry, different bailout, though to the same ultimate end, supporting Wasps with public funds.

Council agrees multi-million pound bailout of Ricoh Arena

COVENTRY City Council has today agreed a dramatic new plan to financially prop up the Ricoh stadium company amid an ongoing dispute with the Sky Blues
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Marty

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  • Thursday at 11:01 AM
  • #146
BPA is a complete non starter. You probably could fit in a 40k stadium if you rotate the ground and pinch a bit of the park next door and build right up to the road.
 

Calista

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  • Thursday at 11:02 AM
  • #147
SBT said:
Doug King is in no greater position to invest his own money into a new stadium than SISU were.

It was a silly idea then and it’s a silly idea now, we don’t have to pretend that threatening to build a new stadium is now some genius chess move just because the team is in better shape on the pitch.
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It's an even less convincing bluff now, because Fisher was threatening a smaller low-cost lego development (to match our on-field status at the time), whereas this time around it's supposedly 40,000.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Thursday at 11:02 AM
  • #148
duffer said:
That's a different story. The original story about the council bailing out Wasps in secret was Les Reid.

The council were trying to do a deal in secret, and Reid publicised it. Then, apparently, the council put pressure on the CET to get rid of Reid, they sacked him, he took them to a tribunal and win his case. Massively shabby by both the council and CET. I might not recall what I had for breakfast, but this I remember well.

Council agrees multi-million pound bailout of Ricoh Arena

COVENTRY City Council has today agreed a dramatic new plan to financially prop up the Ricoh stadium company amid an ongoing dispute with the Sky Blues
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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Yeah, it also came out in the court documents that the Telegraph were briefed and "onside" or something but don't think CWR were mentioned.
 
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duffer

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  • Thursday at 11:06 AM
  • #149
Sorry, no, my mistake, the Les Reid saga was about the council bailing out ACL rather than Wasps directly, though obviously it was about making sure the club couldn't get its hands on the stadium.

Hence indirectly supporting the council's Wasps project.

Turned out well, didn't it.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:07 AM
  • #150
Fuck Ashley
Doug king too
Still the council
And the villa too
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Thursday at 11:12 AM
  • #151
Okay, colour me intrigued.

I want to see in the proposal how they would of fit 40,000 seats in that spot
 
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Moff

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  • Thursday at 11:15 AM
  • #152
Nick said:
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Plenty of space in Stratford by his other business...
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He doesnt own that land, its owned by the estate across the road
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Thursday at 11:15 AM
  • #153
SBT said:
Doug King is in no greater position to invest his own money into a new stadium than SISU were.

It was a silly idea then and it’s a silly idea now, we don’t have to pretend that threatening to build a new stadium is now some genius chess move just because the team is in better shape on the pitch.
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It is a silly idea I agree.

However the club is in more of a position to do this now than it was when Sisu was here. That’s the only point I’m making. It’s a slightly more believable bluff
 
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Moff

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  • Thursday at 11:17 AM
  • #154
LastGarrison said:
One senior councillor, who did not want to be named, told the BBC: "This is not a discussion the city needs to have again."

This immediately pissed me off. Old habits hey……
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I mean if they wanted to avoid discussions, they could have just sold it back to the club, and not Ashley...the thick fuckers!
 
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chickentikkamasala

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  • Thursday at 11:19 AM
  • #155
Good god… have I just woken up and gone back in time?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Thursday at 11:19 AM
  • #156
Moff said:
He doesnt own that land, its owned by the estate across the road
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Oh yeah I didn't think he would, just pointed out there's plenty of space
 
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David O'Day

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  • Thursday at 11:19 AM
  • #157
Moff said:
I mean if they wanted to avoid discussions, they could have just sold it back to the club, and not Ashley...the thick fuckers!
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the council didn't own the arena then
 
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peteCCFC

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  • Thursday at 11:20 AM
  • #158
Should put it near a station, that would be ideal for fans getting to and from the game.
 
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Seamus1

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  • Thursday at 11:21 AM
  • #159
I know it’s all likely to be a load of Rollocks, but an issue that would greatly concern me would be sharing with the rugby club and the resulting state of the pitch as we would love through the season.

Had enough pitch issues with Wasps
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:24 AM
  • #160
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Okay, colour me intrigued.

I want to see in the proposal how they would of fit 40,000 seats in that spot
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Maximum weight/size limits for supporters, mate.

They'd have a box you'd have to fit into at every turnstile before you were allowed in. It would be enforced by Ryanair staff.

I'd be screwed, so might a few others here.
 
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Moff

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  • Thursday at 11:25 AM
  • #161
David O'Day said:
the council didn't own the arena then
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Who did ownership revert to when Wasps went bust?
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Thursday at 11:27 AM
  • #162
peteCCFC said:
Should put it near a station, that would be ideal for fans getting to and from the game.
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Time to knock down King Henry’s
 
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David O'Day

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  • Thursday at 11:27 AM
  • #163
Moff said:
Who did ownership revert to when Wasps went bust?
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it was the administrators who sold the arena to fraser group backed up by a judge
 
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wingy

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  • Thursday at 11:27 AM
  • #164
chiefdave said:
Not sure this is really helpful in anyway from Gilbert or CWR a week before the season starts. We don't own the stadium and don't at present have a long term deal to play there, you could easily argue its basic business sense for King to be putting out feelers for other options.

There's so much context missing was this a recent, urgent, conversation with Sharpe and CCC. A 'we're fucked and need somewhere ASAP' type conversation, or was it a 'one day it would be nice to have our own ground' type conversation because they are very different things. Doesn't even seem to say when this took place.

Hopefully the people running the arena just ignore it and it isn't going to cause issues with the negotiations. Last thing we need is a landlord who is pissed off with us.

There's been a lot of speculation that Frasers got involved with the stadium as a PR move with their plans to have a large facility in the area. If that's the case then surely they aren't going to be considering kicking the football club out. The chances of finding another tenant for the stadium bowl for a second time have got to be pretty slim.
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They could be open to levelling it in theory, seems mad but it's a fair plot of land, don't know what the Ansty site represents on the profit sheet but bet it's healthy!?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Thursday at 11:28 AM
  • #165
Balli001 said:
I take it as an owner is exploring possibilities very loosely as a back up option based on only having a 3 year lease.
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Yep but it’s pretty important no?
 
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wingy

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  • Thursday at 11:39 AM
  • #166
What is all this we have a cheap deal, yes it may go up if we do too,as you'd expect, even Man City pay £3m for the privilege,if we're making improvements they'll be contra'd off the bill or we'd be stupid.
Anyway Fraser's maybe happy to part with things when the price is right.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Thursday at 11:41 AM
  • #167
ricohroar said:
He might need to remeasure the site because a 40k stadium aint fitting in there
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It might if we have 3 tiers of seats, but we'd need oxygen stations about half way up and at the top!!
 

chiefdave

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  • Thursday at 11:54 AM
  • #168
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Time to knock down King Henry’s
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Imagine if someone had the vision when discussions were taking place about how to revitalise the city centre to instead of going more flats and shops decided to build a football stadium.

Obviously zero chance but a stadium literally in the city centre would be a dream scenario.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Thursday at 11:56 AM
  • #169
chiefdave said:
Obviously zero chance but a stadium literally in the city centre would be a dream scenario.
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Knock down the Skydome and IKEA.
 
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AOM

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  • Thursday at 12:00 PM
  • #170
procdoc said:
Will it have a retractable roof and pitch?
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Can name it after the year building work has finished - Arena 3000
 
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chiefdave

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  • Thursday at 12:02 PM
  • #171
Nick said:
Knock down the Skydome and IKEA.
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Flatten it all and build something like this

 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Thursday at 12:02 PM
  • #172
Nick said:
Knock down the Skydome and IKEA.
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Is that plot even big enough? Imagine you’d need to demolish/move part of spon street as well
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Thursday at 12:06 PM
  • #173
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Is that plot even big enough? Imagine you’d need to demolish/move part of spon street as well
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Expand over the road and merge HEAT and the Sky Blue Tavern.
 

chiefdave

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  • Thursday at 12:06 PM
  • #174
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Is that plot even big enough? Imagine you’d need to demolish/move part of spon street as well
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get the bulldozers fired up!
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 12:11 PM
  • #175
wingy said:
What is all this we have a cheap deal, yes it may go up if we do too,as you'd expect, even Man City pay £3m for the privilege,if we're making improvements they'll be contra'd off the bill or we'd be stupid.
Anyway Fraser's maybe happy to part with things when the price is right.
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£3m isn't much to a club like Manchester City. But if he wants to put our rent up to something similar it would be massive to us.
 
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