That elephant quote can't be true.... Surely?
How is having an owner who is prepared to put in, and write off, tens of millions common sense and a sound business structure.On the one hand, there is a Southampton side that have just beaten Internazionale to show, again, why they should be regarded as the prime example of what can happen at a medium-sized club that applies common sense, a sound business structure, makes shrewd appointments and understands what a football team means to the local community.
I would say in the backSouthampton dodged a bullet and we got it right between the eyes.
I love when people come out with things like this
How is having an owner who is prepared to put in, and write off, tens of millions common sense and a sound business structure.
There's an interesting comment further down:I love when people come out with things like this
How is having an owner who is prepared to put in, and write off, tens of millions common sense and a sound business structure.
There's an interesting comment further down:
"The saddest thing is, Coventry are hardly alone in being ruined by unscrupulous owners. Sure, their difficulties are particularly pronounced, but just have a look around.
Villa, Forest, Leeds, Fulham, Charlton, Blackpool, Blackburn, Newcastle, Sunderland, Cardiff, Northampton, Portsmouth - all have suffered, or continue to suffer, from gross mismanagement inside the last 5 years.
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Us, Blackpool and Portsmouth granted, but the others? I wouldn't say villa are poorly managed, just that Lerner's isn't throwing in loads of cash anymore, ditto Newcastle.
The main reason that Lerner doesn't throw in loads of cash anymore is probably because he isn't the owner.
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There's an interesting comment further down:
"The saddest thing is, Coventry are hardly alone in being ruined by unscrupulous owners. Sure, their difficulties are particularly pronounced, but just have a look around.
Villa, Forest, Leeds, Fulham, Charlton, Blackpool, Blackburn, Newcastle, Sunderland, Cardiff, Northampton, Portsmouth - all have suffered, or continue to suffer, from gross mismanagement inside the last 5 years.
."
Us, Blackpool and Portsmouth granted, but the others? I wouldn't say villa are poorly managed, just that Lerner's isn't throwing in loads of cash anymore, ditto Newcastle.
I wouldn't say Sunderland have suffered from "gross mismangement". Yes, they have struggled at the wrong end of the table, but that is purely down to not having good enough players compared to the other clubs. In a league of 20 teams , someone has to be down there. Their owners may not throw the same amount of money at it as the others, but that doesn't constitute gross mis-management.
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Management? More like mismanagement.There you have it, clear evidence about the quality of SISU management.
What a stupid comment.Good point. Let's all forgive SISU. It's everyone else's business structure that is to blame:rolls eyes:
Apparently SISU turned down Saints??
Good point. Let's all forgive SISU. It's everyone else's business structure that is to blame:rolls eyes:
I think the point is that SFC haven't necessarily got where they have just by the processes mentioned in the article (like a good structure).
The millions pumped in also helped. Like I said on the other thread, how many clubs in L1 spend a million on a player like SFC did when they bought Rickie Lambert?
Many clubs get into troubles because of overspending. CCFC being the prime example. SFC have spent millions but have managed to do well from it.
Their success isn't only good structure.
That's absolutely nothing like what I posted. The author is the article is praising Southampton for their common sense an sound business structure. Yet their success has been based on having an owner prepared to put millions in, millions that the club itself doesn't generate. Take the emotion of football out of it and translate that to any other business, would you say it was common sense to operate that way?Good point. Let's all forgive SISU. It's everyone else's business structure that is to blame:rolls eyes:
Exactly. Strict rules need to be put in to place to force every club to live within its means. Its great saying put money in hoping for promotion but if 20 teams have the same plan and 3 go up there's going to be plenty of others getting themselves into a mess.It opens up the wider issue, that really, really needs addressing by all fans coming together, that football in this country breaks in that it's all founded on punts for success.
It opens up the wider issue, that really, really needs addressing by all fans coming together, that football in this country breaks in that it's all founded on punts for success.
So you attract monied loons with cash burning a hole in their pocket, or carpetbaggers such as SISU. Even in the top flight, the Glazers, the Liverpool lot etc are all taking a punt. If it fails? The wheels come off a club.
And this is as we loosen controls, so owners (all of them) have little affinity to the club they own. In the past, if an owner ballsed up there appeared generally an acknowledgement it was their responsibility to pass the club on... as responsibly as possible. Now it's just the roll of the dice as to whether you get good random or bad random popping up.
So add to that list clubs such as Man Utd, who are levereged dangerously. Sport shouldn't be business, it should be emotion.
That's absolutely nothing like what I posted. The author is the article is praising Southampton for their common sense an sound business structure. Yet their success has been based on having an owner prepared to put millions in, millions that the club itself doesn't generate. Take the emotion of football out of it and translate that to any other business, would you say it was common sense to operate that way?
don't tell nick thatYeah they've really got to go and we've got to keep telling them until they start taking notice.
don't tell nick that
At least you got a like off jack, another who doesn't bother.Nick? Oh, you mean the leader of the doing it the Neville Chamberlain way protest group
It's probably a bit of both. I am sick and tired of people on here telling me that it is no good Sisu going as there is nobody else waiting in the wings to come in which is rubbish. OK they may not have the funds to throw at the team but I for one would support them if they were honest enough to tell us and promised to invest as much as possible from receipts.
Honest enough to tell you they were running it break even?
Exactly. Strict rules need to be put in to place to force every club to live within its means. Its great saying put money in hoping for promotion but if 20 teams have the same plan and 3 go up there's going to be plenty of others getting themselves into a mess.
At least you got a like off jack, another who doesn't bother.
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