Nitpicking. We gave a premier league full back all the time and space in the world to pick out an unmarked player in the middle. To blame it on the keeper is a witch hunt.
He was until he got injured and they got a loanee in. Was their number 1 when they finished in the playoffs too.He wasn’t even No 1 at Barnsley
Dangerous that, surely we have got to play someone!I'd play whichever keeper you intend to keep next season
He was until he got injured and they got a loanee in. Was their number 1 when they finished in the playoffs too.
Lati could have cut it off but bottled itHe should have stopped the cross for the first goal, he dived over it/too late.
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So he finished the season as their number 1, is that right or are we splitting hairs?Started less than half their games in their championship play off season.
Collins could have cut it off but missed it.Lati could have cut it off but bottled it
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So he finished the season as their number 1, is that right or are we splitting hairs?
I think he'll see it as more of a priority than replacing Eccles which you keep going on about.I wonder if Robins agrees we need a new number 1…
I want someone who can command their area first and foremost, i couldnt care less about if a keeper can ping 50 yard passes like Ederson.Someone in the mould of Kasper Schmeichel would do for me!!
I think he'll see it as more of a priority than replacing Eccles which you keep going on about.
Your defence of Collins is as weird as your targeting of Eccles.
We need more squad depth. That is something we both agree on. I think we need to be flexible and use the loan market and not rigidly stick to the model if we want to progress at any speed. Otherwise we will always be developing and selling players once they become good and progress is so gradual. Also you end up with players like Collins on long contracts which is wasteful.Not defending Collins at all. Every player is replaceable and as we move up the levels, we need to continually improve it we get left behind. It’s a ruthless business.
With Kelly leaving, we will be signing a CM and Robins won’t be signing just a back up. That would be against the concept of continuous improvement.
With Wilson and Collins under contract, we’re not going to sign a 3rd keep when we have 3-4 positions where we don’t sufficient cover.
Unless Wilson or Collins go, it’s not a position we’ll look at spending significant sums on. Going into 2025-26 is a more realistic timeframe.
All this talk of a strong spine with the subtext of replacing Collins, I’ll lay out our depth issues below going into 2024/25:
- 2 GKs
- 2 CBs
- 3 CMs
- 2 AMs
- 2 STs
These players have to play around 50 games in a season and to be in the Top 6 we can’t have players at 70-80% freshness.
As a bare minimum you need 1-2 signings in each area outside of GK. What’s our plan if Simms and Wright get injured? Or Thomas & Kitching? Or Torp and Eccles?
We need more squad depth. That is something we both agree on. I think we need to be flexible and use the loan market and not rigidly stick to the model if we want to progress at any speed.
On the midfield we have three really good players, and yes that includes Eccles. Kelly was fine last night and Allen should be fit next season. Latibeaudiere can also cover as can Burroughs and Andrews is a prospect. So it is by far our strongest area in terms of depth.
We don't have one decent goalkeeper. So this is obviously the top priority as we can't continue to let in ridiculous goals virtually every match. On reflection this is a bit harsh on Wilson but we do need better if we are to progress as a team. Goalkeeper is a really important position and five mistakes in six games is what has killed our play off chances.
Anyone calling for Wilson back is a head case.
The guy just cost us a really important game, has been repeatedly weak and dodgy and has got worse if anything.gonna call it and say Collins will be #1 next season and will be absolutely fine... no need for a panic replacement
The first is far, far, far worseWhat I don’t get is robins rightly or wrongly ruthlessly bombed out Marosi then Moore who had both had good spells
Wilson’s goal led a charmed life and he did well to a point but he was never the man
Collins looks worse than all 3
the third goal is unforgivable
I’d say anyone wanting Collins to continue in goal after last night is a head case. Played like he was pissed ffs.Anyone calling for Wilson back is a head case.
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Anyone wanting Wilson back could be the same given the level of shite he has been. Preston away he almost let in an even worse one than Collins did last night.I’d say anyone wanting Collins to continue in goal after last night is a head case. Played like he was pissed ffs.
He brought in Collins while Moore was still about.Sadly I doubt MR will bring in a new #1 keeper. He’s a stubborn guy and it would be embarrassing to ask for another keeper (ahead of someone just brought in on a 3 year contract to do that). Especially after being quite open about the lack of squad depth re outfield players.
I hope I’m surprised because we’ve endured too many years of flappy, weak kneed keepers who undermine the really hard work and development put in elsewhere.
It would be a breath of fresh air to get a big, gobby keeper prepared to crack a few skulls (not literally).
We're 8th in the league and got to the FA cup semi final, after losing arguably the best 2 players in the league last year.The guy just cost us a really important game, has been repeatedly weak and dodgy and has got worse if anything.
I doubt defenders have any confidence in him defending a corner or coming off his line to help the defence or dealing with a back pass.
A weak indecisive keeper just drains confidence.
Let’s hope so.He brought in Collins while Moore was still about.
He ditched Marosi quickly
Other players like Grimmer etc, he is quick to change players.
I presume you are a WUM. Talking about the keeper and our repeatedly shaky defence prone to howlers. We’ve had a poor year at the back. A new quality keeper would make a big difference to giving them some leadership and settling them down.We're 8th in the league and got to the FA cup semi final, after losing arguably the best 2 players in the league last year.
we've hardly had a stinker have we, i wouldnt say we have been lacking confidence
We’re conceded the 7th least goals in the league and the only teams above us with a better GA record is Leicester, Leeds, Ipswich and WBA. Hardly a ‘poor year’.I presume you are a WUM. Talking about the keeper and our repeatedly shaky defence prone to howlers. We’ve had a poor year at the back. A new quality keeper would make a big difference to giving them some leadership and settling them down.
The first goal went straight under him as he dived off his line. It was a keeper's ball all day long. That said, our fullbacks are generally poor at preventing crosses coming in too.Which goal was Collins fault vs Man Utd? Deluded.
I still say that we should try and get Johansson from Rotherham, in the summer. If not him, who else?
Get Moore out, send Wilson out on loan, Collins and Tyler as backup, and get a solid, vocal, commanding GK in who’ll bark at his defenders all game.
Seems to be an inherent weaker area in MR’s discernment as a manager; goalkeepers.
If he is no.1 we are not going up.gonna call it and say Collins will be #1 next season and will be absolutely fine... no need for a panic replacement
He's changed first choice keeper just into or before every season we've had in this league - Marosi, Moore, Wilson, Collins.Sadly I doubt MR will bring in a new #1 keeper. He’s a stubborn guy and it would be embarrassing to ask for another keeper (ahead of someone just brought in on a 3 year contract to do that). Especially after being quite open about the lack of squad depth re outfield players.
I hope I’m surprised because we’ve endured too many years of flappy, weak kneed keepers who undermine the really hard work and development put in elsewhere.
It would be a breath of fresh air to get a big, gobby keeper prepared to crack a few skulls (not literally).
I’m afraid it is when you are asking Collins, Latibeaudiere and Thomas to carry it out. Of course you don’t just lump it forward. But equally don’t always play out. It has to be mixed based on what you see in front of you.A keeper might make 3 or 4 saves in an average game. But they’ll play ten or twenty or more passes. And it’s not a terrible tactic. Wanting to smash it up the pitch and lose the ball every time is a terrible tactic.
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