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skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #351
Tommo1993 said:
Nobody wants to talk about Moore. It’s one of the most bizarre things. With what the other two clowns got away with, he was worth another chance. But no, completely frozen out, pooh-poohed on here as well.
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Tommo1993

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #352
skybluecam said:
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You know I could post several highlights of Wilson looking piss poor and Collins being by far the worst of a bad bunch of GKs?
 
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skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #353
Tommo1993 said:
You know I could post several highlights of Wilson looking piss poor and Collins being by far the worst of a bad bunch of GKs?
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He got dropped, was crap when he came back in for the cup, was going to leave last summer and his contract is up this summer so why would we bother with him?
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #354
skybluecam said:
He got dropped, was crap when he came back in for the cup, was going to leave last summer and his contract is up this summer so why would we bother with him?
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Callum O’Hare was poor in most of his apps since returning from injury and his contract is up. Why did we bother with him?
 

skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #355
Tommo1993 said:
Callum O’Hare was poor in most of his apps since returning from injury and his contract is up. Why did we bother with him?
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O'Hare was outstanding for about 2 months after returning. No idea what you're on about.
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #356
skybluecam said:
O'Hare was outstanding for about 2 months after returning. No idea what you're on about.
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2 months? nah.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #357
What does our goalkeeping coach have to say about all this?
 

skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #358
Tommo1993 said:
2 months? nah.
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8th Dec - 6th Feb he scored 9 in 13 games...
 
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skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #359
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What does our goalkeeping coach have to say about all this?
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This is the bigger worry for me, we've churned through 3 keepers in 2 seasons now. Is it them or is it us?
 
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Deity

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #360
skybluecam said:
8th Dec - 6th Feb he scored 9 in 13 games...
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He had a purple patch in front of goal. His around play was not outstanding …
 

skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #361
Deity said:
He had a purple patch in front of goal. His around play was not outstanding …
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Come off it, 9 in 13 is outstanding for an attacking midfielder. Doesn't matter what his "all around play" was like.
 
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shepardo01

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #362
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What does our goalkeeping coach have to say about all this?
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Don't know much about him, but Aled Jones(?) can't from Wolves academy did he not?
Can't remember if he came straight in as 1st team GK coach but I have a few observations.

1- is he too "pally" with the GKs... Presumably Robins goes to him with questions about performance and training. Has he got it in him to be point blank honest - or would he protect Collins after a mistake like yesterday.
2 - what is his background/pedigree!? Has he played!? He looks very small to have played and has come from coaching academy goalkeepers.
Do our keepers respect him and can he get the best out of them!?

Anybody with some knowledge (@Saddlebrains - sorry!) have anything on this.

To caveat this, I know 3 goalkeeping coaches that range from Prem to now Lg , 2 have played a lot of football league games and higher, the other hasn't.
I know what I'd prefer my goalkeepers to work with.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #363
skybluecam said:
8th Dec - 6th Feb he scored 9 in 13 games...
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We can dress stats like that however we want, he scored in 6 of those games. But if we go by your original logic he dropped right off it when his contract was up - so back to that very point, that’s no reason to just blank your keeper when the two ahead are fucking dog shit.
 

skybluecam

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #364
Tommo1993 said:
We can dress stats like that however we want, he scored in 6 of those games. But if we go by your original logic he dropped right off it when his contract was up - so back to that very point, that’s no reason to just blank your keeper when the two ahead are fucking dog shit.
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You'd do well to "dress up" his performances in that period to look bad.

Collins has only dropped off a cliff in the final 6 games or so. No point putting Moore in for 2-3 games when he's 100% leaving.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #365
skybluecam said:
This is the bigger worry for me, we've churned through 3 keepers in 2 seasons now. Is it them or is it us?
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I think it’s MR previously having just wanted a shot stopper, then wanting someone better with the ball. Seems we have the Championship Onana
 
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ptr

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #366
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What does our goalkeeping coach have to say about all this?
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The one that didn’t have a professional playing career? Hmmmmm
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #367
shepardo01 said:
Don't know much about him, but Aled Jones(?) can't from Wolves academy did he not?
Can't remember if he came straight in as 1st team GK coach but I have a few observations.

1- is he too "pally" with the GKs... Presumably Robins goes to him with questions about performance and training. Has he got it in him to be point blank honest - or would he protect Collins after a mistake like yesterday.
2 - what is his background/pedigree!? Has he played!? He looks very small to have played and has come from coaching academy goalkeepers.
Do our keepers respect him and can he get the best out of them!?

Anybody with some knowledge (@Saddlebrains - sorry!) have anything on this.

To caveat this, I know 3 goalkeeping coaches that range from Prem to now Lg , 2 have played a lot of football league games and higher, the other hasn't.
I know what I'd prefer my goalkeepers to work with.
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I think its very fair to question him. Keepers seem to regress here
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #368
Saddlebrains said:
Wilsons been told he can go

We will be looking for a new No1
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #369
skybluecam said:
This is the bigger worry for me, we've churned through 3 keepers in 2 seasons now. Is it them or is it us?
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It's been more than 3 keepers over the last few years, Westwood was last good keeper we had.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 5, 2024
  • #370
skybluecam said:
This is the bigger worry for me, we've churned through 3 keepers in 2 seasons now. Is it them or is it us?
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Happened for a few years now that keepers have started brightly and then their game has gone to pot in a season or less. Goes back to Marosi at least.

Really got to be having a serious review of the goalkeeping coaching.
 
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Otis

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #371
Even putting aside the errors, he doesn't have a great presence in the penalty area does he? To me if looks like he should bulk up a bit. He's ever so slight looking.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #372
We were so fixated on playing a goalie 'good' with his feet we have played one who turns out to be hopeless with his hands
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #373
It would be mad if we didn’t make a £900k bid for VJ
 

Adge

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #374
AFCCOVENTRY said:
It would be made if we didn’t make a £900k bid for VJ
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Had a shocker against us earlier on in the season but only having seen him from the outside looks the part and is the right age again that fits our model.
 
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Viktor17

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #375
Think the nagging issue with VJ is his ability to play with his feet. Shot stopping yes, but reality is you’ve got to play now, at expense of some of skills sometimes.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #376
I'm of the opinion that we need to go against the grain and sign a seasoned pro over the age of about 32 33.

Wont happen though
 
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False9

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #377
Saddlebrains said:
I'm of the opinion that we need to go against the grain and sign a seasoned pro over the age of about 32 33.

Wont happen though
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Like Moore?
 
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Viktor17

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #378
Saddlebrains said:
I'm of the opinion that we need to go against the grain and sign a seasoned pro over the age of about 32 33.

Wont happen though
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Don’t disagree - the spine needs sprinkle of experience.

suspect the model will dictate otherwise!
 
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Viktor17

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #379
False9 said:
Like Moore?
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Just thought the same!
 
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Viktor17

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #380
Saddlebrains said:
I'm of the opinion that we need to go against the grain and sign a seasoned pro over the age of about 32 33.

Wont happen though
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What happened with Moore @Saddlebrains - understand off field? Was it one incident or loNg period of time type of issue?
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #381
Saddlebrains said:
I'm of the opinion that we need to go against the grain and sign a seasoned pro over the age of about 32 33.

Wont happen though
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You reckon Rodak is a decent shout or out of the budget? (not quite 30, he’s 27 years old)
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #382
Viktor17 said:
Don’t disagree - the spine needs sprinkle of experience.

suspect the model will dictate otherwise!
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Perfect illustration of why sticking rigidly to the model won't work. Hopefully the club won't be that foolish.
 

BlueSkiesForever

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2024
  • #383
I was all for Collins at first but I just think over the course of the season he’s shown he hasn’t got either the physical ability or the mental strength to be a quality keeper. I think overall as a club we’re not ruthless enough. It’s good being supportive of players (and I don’t want Robins to suddenly drop that approach) but if a signing doesn’t work out then it doesn’t work out, we shouldn’t just keep playing Collins and not look for a better keeper just because we’ve recently bought him.

Neither Wilson or Collins are currently good enough, alright maybe Collins will improve but do we want to waiting around in the hope that he miraculously becomes an amazing shot stopper? I personally believe that next season is the season for us to do it, I want us to start with a proper quality team and churn out win after win like Leicester and Ipswich did this season. We should be looking to spend £1-3 mil on a quality keeper and not have this chopping and changing every couple of months.
 

no_loyalty

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #384
BlueSkiesForever said:
I was all for Collins at first but I just think over the course of the season he’s shown he hasn’t got either the physical ability or the mental strength to be a quality keeper. I think overall as a club we’re not ruthless enough. It’s good being supportive of players (and I don’t want Robins to suddenly drop that approach) but if a signing doesn’t work out then it doesn’t work out, we shouldn’t just keep playing Collins and not look for a better keeper just because we’ve recently bought him.

Neither Wilson or Collins are currently good enough, alright maybe Collins will improve but do we want to waiting around in the hope that he miraculously becomes an amazing shot stopper? I personally believe that next season is the season for us to do it, I want us to start with a proper quality team and churn out win after win like Leicester and Ipswich did this season. We should be looking to spend £1-3 mil on a quality keeper and not have this chopping and changing every couple of months.
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I think the majority agree that Collins and Wilson are not good enough to be our number one, but the main issue is who will want to sign them?
 
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skyblue025

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #385
Collins seemed to get worse as the season went on. It might just be me but his reactions seems to be slow. You often see him throw out an arm last second to try and divert a shot. He doesn't seem to anticipate shots at all. That might just be his style that's unconventional but it doesn't look right.
 
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