It's not that ironic - we've kept just 6 cleansheets in 34 league games.
In that picture.....Could it be argued that the right side are sat far too deep, allowing the Crewe players to sit in that hole!?? ;-)
Cameron is shocking. Full stop. Whole thread on Crewe messageboards after Weds about how bad he was/is. Excelled at conf North level.... but having experienced that level i'd say he has even gone backwards from there.
I think we may have released the wrong player when we had Cameron and Grandison on the books together! Grandison tore us apart at Shrewsbury away game and then at CB at the Ricoh.
Grandson was poor at the time he was with us, the 3-1 loss v Reading at home when he played CB still haunts me! In fairness to the lad though, he's reinvented himself at L2 and got promoted and is a key player at Shrews in L1, kudos.
The back four that day was
Clarke age 17
Grandison aged 18
Turner aged 21
Van aanholt aged 19
And you wonder why he had a mare
Your point being what? He played terrible whereas the others were head and shoulders above him, despite not having a great game themselves, if my memory serves me right.
My point being that it was a very young and inexperienced back four and you can forgive a youngster having a mare in this conditions. He was playing because we were desperate not because he had forced himself in the side with exceptional performances.
That weren't the only game he's been bad in, there's others, like Morecambe in the League Cup under Hoofroyd.
That weren't the only game he's been bad in, there's others, like Morecambe in the League Cup under Hoofroyd.
The whole team was awful in that game.
I know, but I'm saying Grandison didn't appear like he could hack it at the time he was allowed to o to Shrews, especially as Cameron was playing well with Turner.
I know, but I'm saying Grandison didn't appear like he could hack it at the time he was allowed to o to Shrews, especially as Cameron was playing well with Turner.
Very few players will look the finished article at 18-it's more a case of who has the most potential to step up and establish themselves in the first team. At that time, whoever made the decision did so on the premise that he wouldn't be able to make it at Championship level; and he still hasn't. The quality of forward play in this league is exceptionally poor so a giant centre half like Grandison wouldn't have many problems.
He was only 18 FFS.
You're also forgetting that Boothroyd played a very defensive game with a deep back four with both clingan and carsley sitting deep protecting them
The problem is none of Cameron, christie or Clarke have looked particularly accomplished in this league either...
How have their performance levels, if anything, dropped since dropping down a level?
Cannot fault SISU at all on backing managers with players this season.
However they are still the reason we are not in the top six.
Eh? .
I'm asking how have the 3 players listed played well in the Championship, but not at L1 level.
How have their performance levels, if anything, dropped since dropping down a level?
Lets hope Aaron Martin loan with us is more successful then his stay at Palace.
Don't worry sky blue taylor has already written Wilson off after two sub appearance, just leave itHe was only 18 FFS.
You're also forgetting that Boothroyd played a very defensive game with a deep back four with both clingan and carsley sitting deep protecting them
Don't worry sky blue taylor has already written Wilson off after two sub appearance, just leave it
So anyway, Aaron Martin...
... And a poor record on loan at Kettering.
If I were making the decision, I wouldn't have got rid of Grandison, I would've sent him out on loan, but at the time, Cameron was better than Grandison and I'm afraid that was true, Grandison may be better now, but back then Cameron was by-far a better CB, also, lets not forget that we were in the Championship at the time, Grandison me be able to play at that standard one day, but he is at a Shrewsbury team that is 17th in L1, hasn't really bettered himself yet.
Well if you were at the FA cup game vs Southampton last year he played and scored for Southampton in that game. Can't say I particularly watched his performance that game thoughHas anyone actually seen this guy play?
... And a poor record on loan at Kettering.
If I were making the decision, I wouldn't have got rid of Grandison, I would've sent him out on loan, but at the time, Cameron was better than Grandison and I'm afraid that was true, Grandison may be better now, but back then Cameron was by-far a better CB, also, lets not forget that we were in the Championship at the time, Grandison me be able to play at that standard one day, but he is at a Shrewsbury team that is 17th in L1, hasn't really bettered himself yet.
He went on loan to Tranmere (8 games) and Shrewsbury (13 games)
palace conceded 13 goals during his 5 matches but lets give him a fresh start.What went wrong there?
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