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MalcSB

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #106
Grendel said:
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Crap, isn’t it?
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #107
Grendel said:
I have no words

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Not a car in sight!
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #108
Had a 500X. Traded that in for a Yaris Cross Hybrid. On our second one as they contacted us about 2 months in offering us another new one for 8 months after that. Decent MPG. One big issue we’ve had is the battery. Go away for a week and it doesn’t start! It’s a known fault but Listers are refusing to do anything about it. The equivalent Lexus has the same issue too.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #109
Grendel said:
I have no words

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My son just started his apprenticeship at JLR, he's shown me that advert and h was like wtf and doesn't want them to move to all electric which is what they're now doing
 

stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #110
Gynnsthetonic said:
My son just started his apprenticeship at JLR, he's shown me that advert and h was like wtf and doesn't want them to move to all electric which is what they're now doing
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My mate is a middle level manager there and thinks it’s a load of bandwagon jumping shite.

You might argue that nobody has talked about Jaguar this much in years. Which is true. But I’d be amazed if sales increase off the back of it.
 
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nicksar

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #111
Gynnsthetonic said:
My son just started his apprenticeship at JLR, he's shown me that advert and h was like wtf and doesn't want them to move to all electric which is what they're now doing
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Great news,he will get brilliant training at JLR.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #112
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #113
nicksar said:
Great news,he will get brilliant training at JLR.
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I have no doubt about that thanks, but what are they trying to do with that advert
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #114
nicksar said:
Great news,he will get brilliant training at JLR.
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You sound like a man who's had experience with them
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #115
Feels like they needed to do something as Jaguar is a bit of a dying brand. Not sure that advert is the right 'something' though!

And the next car they release is going to be £100k, wow.
 

Marty

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #116
Gynnsthetonic said:
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Jaguar have been essentially dead for years, think it was the XF model, they were only making about £20 a car on.
 

nicksar

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #117
Gynnsthetonic said:
You sound like a man who's had experience with them
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Yes I worked both at Gaydon and Whitley as a development engine fitter/tester for many years.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #118
nicksar said:
Yes I worked both at Gaydon and Whitley as a development engine fitter/tester for many years.
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My son is based at Gaydon, proper job you had there by the sound of it!
 
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San Francisco

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #119
It's a sad way to go for a company that has such strong ties with our city.
 
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lewys33

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #120
Grendel said:
I have no words

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you retired yet?
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #121
Grendel said:
I have no words

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Advert makes old man comment on social media.

Job done.
 
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lewys33

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #122
San Francisco said:
It's a sad way to go for a company that has such strong ties with our city.
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why? If people are in jobs and the company makes good money what does it matter?

id stick a dildo on the front of the bonnet if it meant higher profits and another 10% on my pay.

The outcry from this is pretty hilarious. It’s literally people dressed in bright colours? What could possibly set people off so badly?

The target clientele is not middle aged folk sat on Twitter or forums I can guarantee you that.
 
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lewys33

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #123
stay_up_skyblues said:
My mate is a middle level manager there and thinks it’s a load of bandwagon jumping shite.

You might argue that nobody has talked about Jaguar this much in years. Which is true. But I’d be amazed if sales increase off the back of it.
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they don’t care for “top sales” figures. Gone are the days of chasing the Germans.

Good times to be a ford or VW employee.
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #124
lewys33 said:
why? If people are in jobs and the company makes good money what does it matter?

id stick a dildo on the front of the bonnet if it meant higher profits and another 10% on my pay.

The outcry from this is pretty hilarious. It’s literally people dressed in bright colours? What could possibly set people off so badly?

The target clientele is not middle aged folk sat on Twitter or forums I can guarantee you that.
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I was there in '92. Dodgy times but I managed to hang on and ended up with a great career.

I'd have stuck a dildo up many a manager's bonnet at the time, then I ended up being one!

Great company, great brand, great people.

Really hope it gets back to past glories.
 
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lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #125
JAM See said:
I was there in '92. Dodgy times but I managed to hang on and ended up with a great career.

I'd have stuck a dildo up many a manager's bonnet at the time, then I ended up being one!

Great company, great brand, great people.

Really hope it gets back to past glories.
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I hope so too! It’s make or break but it needed to be.

As I’ve been telling everyone - Jaguar is dead … long live Jaguar.
 

MalcSB

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #126
lewys33 said:
they don’t care for “top sales” figures. Gone are the days of chasing the Germans.

Good times to be a ford or VW employee.
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It’s not a great time to be employed by any company in the car industry. People simply don’t want to buy the EVs that governments are forcing manufacturers to make and the companies face being fined £15,000 per non EV car that doesn’t meet the targets.

At least Starmer had told us that the government isn’t going to tell us how to live our lives.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #127
Gynnsthetonic said:
I have no doubt about that thanks, but what are they trying to do with that advert
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They are trying to completely reposition the company and will be producing EVs only. They r on they will on,y keep 15% of their current clientele.

When it all goes tits up, they will be coming for government hand outs to bail them out. Middles haed folk on Twitter and forums should tell them to fuck off.
 

lewys33

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #128
Anyway …

back to the reason I came on the thread! Wife is due to hand back her ford puma in a few months. Mine is the main car while hers is just for work and school runs. We will probably just use my “toy car” for a couple of months to make it easier for the remortgage but after that I was looking at <2/3 year old EV’s and the prices are incredible. Genuinely the way to go if it works for you. Ex lease cars galore but so cheap for the car you get.

Even saw delivery mile Vauxhalls at 50% off list price. Corsa for 16k, mokka for 17-18k.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #129
PVA said:
Feels like they needed to do something as Jaguar is a bit of a dying brand. Not sure that advert is the right 'something' though!

And the next car they release is going to be £100k, wow.
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A dying brand? Last year they made £2.6 billion in profit ffs.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #130
Potbellypig said:
A dying brand? Last year they made £2.6 billion in profit ffs.
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JLR may well have done.

Clearly I'm talking specifically about Jaguar. No one is buying them anymore, their typical target market is dying off.

Hence the rebrand to something completely different. They arent doing this just for the lols.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #131
PVA said:
JLR may well have done.

Clearly I'm talking specifically about Jaguar. No one is buying them anymore, their typical target market is dying off.

Hence the rebrand to something completely different.
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No one is buying them because they can’t. They have stopped selling cars until 2026
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #132
Grendel said:
No one is buying them because they can’t. They have stopped selling cars until 2026
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6 days ago yes.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #133
PVA said:
6 days ago yes.
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Not really. The retailers haven’t had new cars for some time - this was planned years ago along with a franchise plan of ending up with just 15 - 20 retailers.

The move to all electric has flagged up issues Jaguar sells a higher proportion of RHD cars and electric isn’t selling - the driving dynamic synonymous with Jaguar are also hard to replicate with electric.

The uk are still not saying if they will ban new non electric sales in 2030 - all the industry requires certainty on this.

Many brands are revising plans. Fiat have relaunched its petrol 500 as sales of electric are not working.

The F Pace Jaguar was pulled as it and LR Discovery Sport were substituting sales off each other.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #134
lewys33 said:
Anyway …

back to the reason I came on the thread! Wife is due to hand back her ford puma in a few months. Mine is the main car while hers is just for work and school runs. We will probably just use my “toy car” for a couple of months to make it easier for the remortgage but after that I was looking at <2/3 year old EV’s and the prices are incredible. Genuinely the way to go if it works for you. Ex lease cars galore but so cheap for the car you get.

Even saw delivery mile Vauxhalls at 50% off list price. Corsa for 16k, mokka for 17-18k.
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There is a reason for that - no one wants them. PCP costs are going through the roof as depreciation is so bad. Not sure how that will reflect on cars which are already heavily discounted though.Having said that, the balloon payment on a £19k new Corsa e after 3 years is only £7k. So only a 60% loss.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #135
lewys33 said:
Anyway …

back to the reason I came on the thread! Wife is due to hand back her ford puma in a few months. Mine is the main car while hers is just for work and school runs. We will probably just use my “toy car” for a couple of months to make it easier for the remortgage but after that I was looking at <2/3 year old EV’s and the prices are incredible. Genuinely the way to go if it works for you. Ex lease cars galore but so cheap for the car you get.

Even saw delivery mile Vauxhalls at 50% off list price. Corsa for 16k, mokka for 17-18k.
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Someone was telling me that vauxhall ev’s charging app is really glitchy and only work with certain vauxhall appropriate charging points.
Might be incorrect as she hadnt had it long but I would look into it to make sure before investing in one.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #136
Grendel said:
Not really. The retailers haven’t had new cars for some time - this was planned years ago along with a franchise plan of ending up with just 15 - 20 retailers.

The move to all electric has flagged up issues Jaguar sells a higher proportion of RHD cars and electric isn’t selling - the driving dynamic synonymous with Jaguar are also hard to replicate with electric.

The uk are still not saying if they will ban new non electric sales in 2030 - all the industry requires certainty on this.

Many brands are revising plans. Fiat have relaunched its petrol 500 as sales of electric are not working.

The F Pace Jaguar was pulled as it and LR Discovery Sport were substituting sales off each other.
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F-pace is still going to America until 2026.

Jaguar in the UK is pretty much done. Sales targets for the new cars are elsewhere in the world.
 

lewys33

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #137
eastwoodsdustman said:
Someone was telling me that vauxhall ev’s charging app is really glitchy and only work with certain vauxhall appropriate charging points.
Might be incorrect as she hadnt had it long but I would look into it to make sure before investing in one.
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thanks for the heads up, although it would genuinely be a 99% charge at home car. Not seriously looking for another 4-5 months I’d say.
 

lewys33

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #138
MalcSB said:
There is a reason for that - no one wants them. PCP costs are going through the roof as depreciation is so bad. Not sure how that will reflect on cars which are already heavily discounted though.Having said that, the balloon payment on a £19k new Corsa e after 3 years is only £7k. So only a 60% loss.
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people want them, it’s just that the supply outweighs demand currently because the market is flooded with “BIK avoidance” EV’s as well as some OEM’s chucking them out the factory and registering them to avoid fines.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #139
I've got a Tesla being delivered next week, my first ev.
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 21, 2024
  • #140
MalcSB said:
It’s not a great time to be employed by any company in the car industry. People simply don’t want to buy the EVs that governments are forcing manufacturers to make and the companies face being fined £15,000 per non EV car that doesn’t meet the targets.
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At least we haven't got a local council doing their best to make a rich man richer and in the process allow a vital piece of infrastructure, such as an airport, to be shut down for an EV battery factory they can't find anyone to back or operate.
 
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