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Transfer Rumour MVE to Wolfsburg (138 Viewers)

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Lamps

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  • Today at 4:05 PM
  • #246
shepardo01 said:
KKH is not an upgrade.
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We just don't know. He looks good going forward but not seen enough yet. He might make less mistakes than MVE.

I'm happy to give him game time before I decide.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Today at 4:08 PM
  • #247
Viktor17 said:
Some mental bed wetting going on - not enough money, fire sale, kings a fraud etc etc
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Does it give you a semi thinking about pissy sheets or something?

Just can’t get enough of opening a thread and thinking about them. Got to get a post it to really scratch the itch.
 
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procdoc

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  • Today at 4:09 PM
  • #248
shepardo01 said:
Why weren't Wolfsburg signing KKH then?
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Wolfsburg's manager worked with MVE at Herenveen
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Today at 4:11 PM
  • #249
Transfermarkt, while not being the greatest source, have his value down at €10m. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable figure.

We may take less if we’re looking to use funds for incomings but it will never be as low as £6m

My guess would be £8m with add-ons.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Today at 4:12 PM
  • #250
Kesler-Hayden is class, if someone like Blues, Wrexham, Stoke etc signed him everyone on here would be wanking to it. Luckily we make smarter signings than those shit houses.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 4:12 PM
  • #251
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes which is what I've said all along? We always had MVE earmarked to go, especially considering KKH came in.
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No, you took GIMOC's post at face value and indicated the sale was indicative of cash flow issues - which there's absolutely zero evidence of.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • Today at 4:12 PM
  • #252
fernandopartridge said:
He isn't a downgrade either
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He's a replacement.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 4:14 PM
  • #253
Liquid Gold said:
Transfermarkt, while not being the greatest source, have his value down at €10m. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable figure.

We may take less if we’re looking to use funds for incomings but it will never be as low as £6m

My guess would be £8m with add-ons.
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I would've thought this would be the rough figure as well.

I'd imagine the only scenario where we take less if the fee wasn't paid in instalments and they agreed to pay it entirely up front.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:14 PM
  • #254
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
No, you took GIMOC's post at face value and indicated the sale was indicative of cash flow issues - which there's absolutely zero evidence of.
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I said, I expected the fee to be around £6m, and suggested that at this stage we would be more interested in the cash we would recoup, rather than being focussed on profit, considering we have just signed a RB.

If he does go for around the £6m fee, what other reason is there?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Today at 4:14 PM
  • #255
Liquid Gold said:
Transfermarkt, while not being the greatest source, have his value down at €10m. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable figure.

We may take less if we’re looking to use funds for incomings but it will never be as low as £6m

My guess would be £8m with add-ons.
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Our asking price is £8m. Apparently Besiktas offered just under £6m a few weeks back if true,
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Today at 4:14 PM
  • #256
We’ve not even seen KKH in the league over a prolonged period of time, how can anyone say he is or isn’t an adequate replacement. Looks pretty good to me from what I’ve seen though
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 4:15 PM
  • #257
shepardo01 said:
Why weren't Wolfsburg signing KKH then?
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MVE has played for us for a couple of seasons and got noticed. KKH has just started the journey on getting noticed.

How many reserve players do we know in their country?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 4:15 PM
  • #258
Ccfcisparks said:
I said, I expected the fee to be around £6m, and suggested that at this stage we would be more interested in the cash we would recoup, rather than being focussed on profit, considering we have just signed a RB.

If he does go for around the £6m fee, what other reason is there?
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I've just given one.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:16 PM
  • #259
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I've just given one.
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Where?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Today at 4:17 PM
  • #260
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:18 PM
  • #261
Saddlebrains said:
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
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Yep fee does suggest we needed to sell this window and was always the plan, and the interest we expected in him wasn't there.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 4:18 PM
  • #262
Lamps said:
MVE has played for us for a couple of seasons and got noticed. KKH has just started the journey on getting noticed.

How many reserve players do we know in their country?
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And this is the model, and sometimes we'll get it wrong.
Though I'm confident KKH will be a good signing but we'll see.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 4:18 PM
  • #263
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I would've thought this would be the rough figure as well.

I'd imagine the only scenario where we take less if the fee wasn't paid in instalments and they agreed to pay it entirely up front.
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Ccfcisparks said:
Where?
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See above.

I suspect the package will be around £8m hopefully with add-ons on top.

Hypothetically if the agreed fee was £6m, then dependent on what the deal looks like I would hope the majority would be paid up front or would be inclusive of significant add-ons / sell-on.
 
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trueskyblue12

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  • Today at 4:23 PM
  • #264
Saddlebrains said:
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
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Not great, but I think MVE has probably hit his ceiling so it’s not miles away.
Obviously not now, but can see KKH fetching a lot more down the line.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 4:24 PM
  • #265
Ccfcisparks said:
Yep fee does suggest we needed to sell this window and was always the plan, and the interest we expected in him wasn't there.
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Again it doesn't suggest that, if it's even true.

I didn't actually see Saddle's post at the time, but it suggests that as I suspected a lesser fee would only be agreed to if Wolfsberg were willing to pay the transfer in full.
 
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Martw

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  • Today at 4:24 PM
  • #266
The rumoured £15 million requested was pie in the sky, I would have thought we wanted £10+ but if true then £6.5 is absolutely at the bottom end of what we would have wanted surely. I wonder if the rumours £5.5 bid for Rushworth was this money being used? We won know for a while but yes its low.... Might it also suggest we need to also sell Wright this summer?
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 4:25 PM
  • #267
Ccfcisparks said:
Yep fee does suggest we needed to sell this window and was always the plan, and the interest we expected in him wasn't there.
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We weren’t going to go two seasons without selling someone and with Haji injured and no one biting on Sheaf where else was money going to come from?
 

TomRad85

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  • Today at 4:26 PM
  • #268
Ccfcisparks said:
Yep fee does suggest we needed to sell this window and was always the plan, and the interest we expected in him wasn't there.
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Tbf, i'll take Saddle with a pinch of salt these days, sorry Saddle mate, but i guess the market for a Championship full back, even a good one, isn't quite where we thought it was at.
I doubt we needed to sell but with Kesler here it makes little sense keeping him when we can use the funds for other areas of the pitch. If the rumoured fee it what was said then that's genuinely all anyone was ever willing to go to. I've been impressed with the 'outs' in terms of price since King came in so the market has clearly decided we, the fans off ccfc, were wrong on his value.
Let's hope Kesler can be as good or even better, I think he's a very good signing.
 
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Grendel

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  • Today at 4:26 PM
  • #269
Ccfcisparks said:
Yep fee does suggest we needed to sell this window and was always the plan, and the interest we expected in him wasn't there.
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How many championship full backs go for over this?
 
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AOM

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  • Today at 4:27 PM
  • #270
shmmeee said:
We weren’t going to go two seasons without selling someone and with Haji injured and no one biting on Sheaf where else was money going to come from?
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I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest in Rudoni so far tbh.
Was expecting we'd always lose at least one of Van Ewijk, Rudoni or Wright this window
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 4:28 PM
  • #271
AOM said:
I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest in Rudoni so far tbh.
Was expecting we'd always lose at least one of Van Ewijk, Rudoni or Wright this window
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Think there’s time to see if Rudoni has another season like the second half of last and let his contract run down a bit before we see proper interest.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 4:30 PM
  • #272
Saddlebrains said:
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
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Hang on tho, If @GIMOC was right on the fee does that mean Doyle coming in
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 4:31 PM
  • #273
AOM said:
I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest in Rudoni so far tbh.
Was expecting we'd always lose at least one of Van Ewijk, Rudoni or Wright this window
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I suspect that there have probably been enquiries made but they were met with a ridiculously high price tag - and rightly so.
 
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Grendel

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  • Today at 4:35 PM
  • #274
Saddlebrains said:
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
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If it’s true I can’t see how the fee is woeful

We place ridiculous assumed values on our players
 
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stupot07

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  • Today at 4:35 PM
  • #275
Saddlebrains said:
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
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Shows how overinflated some fans views are of what players are worth.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:35 PM
  • #276
Grendel said:
How many championship full backs go for over this?
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Well yes exactly. Only one i can see who went for anything near £15m, who didn't have premier league experience is Matt Cash.

Thats why I said that 8 figures was extremely unlikely, and £6m or so was much more believable.
 

peteCCFC

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  • Today at 4:35 PM
  • #277
Valued at 10 million on Transfrmarket, I really can't see him going for 6.
 
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stupot07

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  • Today at 4:37 PM
  • #278
peteCCFC said:
Valued at 10 million on Transfrmarket, I really can't see him going for 6.View attachment 44996
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Transfermarkt is a load of nonsense.
 
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Grendel

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  • Today at 4:37 PM
  • #279
peteCCFC said:
Valued at 10 million on Transfrmarket, I really can't see him going for 6.View attachment 44996
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The same site values Josh Eccles at 7 million
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Today at 4:37 PM
  • #280
Saddlebrains said:
Im told its done but the fee is woeful


6.5 million up front, 15% sell on

Terrible business let's be honest
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Didn’t you make a thread like 3 weeks ago saying you were no longer itk?
 
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