OK.
Also, what's normal? More specifically what's perfectly normal.
Hopefully you'll be able to clarify without the need to revert to pointless childish put-downs.
Yes, as its perfectly normal to kill an MP whilst shouting what sounds like a political statement. You not-so smart arse tit.
"loony tunes c**t" - that's a medical term right?
Would be intetested to know what your qualifications and/or experience around Mental Health are.
I find a bit of age helps you not to make rash decisions.What has your age got to do with anything?
No it is an apt description of the murderer.
No it isn't.
If someone is suffering from a mental health disorder then they're brain isn't functioning in the way others would - calling someone in this situation a loony tunes c**t simply demonstrates a total lack of understanding of such illnesses.
I prefer to lock up crazy people to stop them harming others and I don't give a damn if you think I'm a reactionary to want that.
What has happened is dreadful.No it isn't.
If someone is suffering from a mental health disorder then they're brain isn't functioning in the way others would - calling someone in this situation a loony tunes c**t simply demonstrates a total lack of understanding of such illnesses.
The isis comment wasn't me mentioning mental health issues, is there much difference to those blokes who killed Lee Rigby in the street? I don't think there is.What has happened is dreadful.
The 'Looney tunes...etc' people on here...you're the kind that would call a lung cancer sufferer 'filthy, smelly, unclean' or similar & shun them? Probably & hopefully not.
Mental health is one of the least understood conditions. Something has flicked a switch and sent this guy over the edge into doing things he would not usually contemplate. To put him in the same bracket as ISIS terrorists is simply appalingly bad. In reality the thugs of whatever nation over in France (& no doubt some on here who've done similar locally in the past) that are creating mayhem on the streets are possibly far far worse than this guy as they have real intent, which is much more akin to the actions of ISIS terrorism.
I would be surprised if this chap had genuine conscious intent.
The real issue here is that as a society we have to ask the question as to whether care in the community works well enough. Or should we be forcing people that may tip over the edge like this into perpetual monitoring, or segregation or if we have mostly got it right (which means the politicians have decided the occasional scenario like this is a risk worth taking). Any of the available options have a cost...today it was a life. Other options may mean an extra £1/day to cover the cost of whatever is needed.
...onwards & upwards PUSB
You have a very valid point to be fair. I think however some are merely highlighting the timing of the argument, when a woman, MP and mother has been brutally murdered.No it isn't.
If someone is suffering from a mental health disorder then they're brain isn't functioning in the way others would - calling someone in this situation a loony tunes c**t simply demonstrates a total lack of understanding of such illnesses.
What has happened is dreadful.
The 'Looney tunes...etc' people on here...you're the kind that would call a lung cancer sufferer 'filthy, smelly, unclean' or similar & shun them? Probably & hopefully not.
Mental health is one of the least understood conditions. Something has flicked a switch and sent this guy over the edge into doing things he would not usually contemplate. To put him in the same bracket as ISIS terrorists is simply appalingly bad. In reality the thugs of whatever nation over in France (& no doubt some on here who've done similar locally in the past) that are creating mayhem on the streets are possibly far far worse than this guy as they have real intent, which is much more akin to the actions of ISIS terrorism.
I would be surprised if this chap had genuine conscious intent.
The real issue here is that as a society we have to ask the question as to whether care in the community works well enough. Or should we be forcing people that may tip over the edge like this into perpetual monitoring, or segregation or if we have mostly got it right (which means the politicians have decided the occasional scenario like this is a risk worth taking). Any of the available options have a cost...today it was a life. Other options may mean an extra £1/day to cover the cost of whatever is needed.
...onwards & upwards PUSB
Yes...I am with you in thought of placing these people into secure but otherwise as normal as possible environments. That can prevent them harming anyone including themselves...it is a question of how do we go about identifying the ones that are going to flip with real certainty? And who pays & how much for the secure environments?Hmmmm.....Firstly, I must admit I had a drink inside me yesterday & some of my "labels" were made purely with the intent of winding up armybike....
Allow me to clarify.
I would not label folks with mental health issues, be they depression, dementia, bi-polar or anxiety disorders etc. in such a manner.....
However, if someone flips, goes over the edge, breaksdown to such a degree, they arm themselves to the teeth, take to streets & start slaughtering innocent people.....I'm quite comfortable labelling THOSE people as loony-tune cunts, murderous nutters etc.
Also, I think you may want to reconsider the parallel you've drawn between pissed-up twats lobbing bottles at police with isis terrorists......its perhaps a little foolish....
This thread took a turn for the worse at some point instead of being respectful
However events such as this will inspire others of mal intent
Exactly, not a career politician as such but an altruistic Individual, capable of giving a further 20+ years to societyAgreed. It's sad that someone who seemed a very decent and genuine person has died under appalling circumstances.
That is all that matters.
You have a very valid point to be fair. I think however some are merely highlighting the timing of the argument, when a woman, MP and mother has been brutally murdered.
Think some believe it just deflects from the tragedy.
Mental health can strike any of us down at any given time though and I have witnessed it with my own eyes. That in itself is a tragedy too.
Think this was all to do with the timing of the comment.
I see at his first trial appearance he has given his name to the court as Death to Traitors, Freedom for Britain.
Nope, it's true, it's definitely what he said.I suspect that may be untrue
Nope, it's true, it's definitely what he said.
There are pictures of this guy in a B&H shirt giving the Nazi salute. If he really had mental issues, those might just have been the tiny bit that turned him into a murderer, but there clearly are political reasons for the killing...
I do not want to know what would have been going on, if he would have shouted "Alluah Akhbar" instead. Would we still be discussing mental issues?
There are pictures of this guy in a B&H shirt giving the Nazi salute. If he really had mental issues, those might just have been the tiny bit that turned him into a murderer, but there clearly are political reasons for the killing...
I do not want to know what would have been going on, if he would have shouted "Alluah Akhbar" instead. Would we still be discussing mental issues ?
Plus this guy's got a point, too :
The isis comment wasn't me mentioning mental health issues, is there much difference to those blokes who killed Lee Rigby in the street? I don't think there is.
There are pictures of this guy in a B&H shirt giving the Nazi salute. If he really had mental issues, those might just have been the tiny bit that turned him into a murderer, but there clearly are political reasons for the killing...
I do not want to know what would have been going on, if he would have shouted "Alluah Akhbar" instead. Would we still be discussing mental issues ?
Plus this guy's got a point, too :
Suppose it depends how mentally ill he is or was.
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