covcity4life
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does it matter with otis? the guy said TM was the WORST manager in ccfc history.
does it matter with otis? the guy said TM was the WORST manager in ccfc history.But why was it wrong for him to try and get the goals to stay up?
Ferndon'tknow is back.Obtuse is back.
Pressley had Clarke and Wilson together for half a season, then had the double whammy of Clarke sold and Wilson out for 2-3 months. Yet he still didn't do that much worse than Mowbray who had the use of Murphy and Armstrong all season.
but do you agree people go out of there way to start threads about mowbray and not slade? i mean there are cov fans celebrating blackburn going down on twitter. this is bias. no debate to be had as you would say.
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Are you trying to say that Murphy and Armstrong starting to get experience with us were as good as Wilson and Clarke? Don't you remember how frustrating Murphy was?
Are you also trying to say that Mowbray was the sole reason we went down? I am saying that he wasn't but had a big part to play in it. Some are trying to make out he is to blame for Blackburn going down also. Just shows how stupid it gets on here.
Ferndon'tknow is back.
Are you trying to say that Murphy and Armstrong starting to get experience with us were as good as Wilson and Clarke? Don't you remember how frustrating Murphy was?
Are you also trying to say that Mowbray was the sole reason we went down? I am saying that he wasn't but had a big part to play in it. Some are trying to make out he is to blame for Blackburn going down also. Just shows how stupid it gets on here.
I probably don't quite see things from your side.
The way I see it, certainly within threads, is that a lot of people refuse to acknowledge Mowbray had anything to do with our relegation, or that his proportion of blame is minimal. That's why threads get started. I think with Slade, everyone agree's that he definitely has some accountability for our relegation and therefore don't feel the need to argue about it as much.
Personally I think they are both extremely accountable for our relegation, so it frustrates me when people say Mowbray was hardly anything to do with it.
Where would we have finished without Armstrong and Murphy?
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Are you trying to say that Murphy and Armstrong starting to get experience with us were as good as Wilson and Clarke? Don't you remember how frustrating Murphy was?
Are you also trying to say that Mowbray was the sole reason we went down? I am saying that he wasn't but had a big part to play in it. Some are trying to make out he is to blame for Blackburn going down also. Just shows how stupid it gets on here.
We didn't have Wilson and Clarke for a full season you douche! You're backing up my point.
Depends on who would have played instead. Clarke and Wilson and we would have done better. Who we had last season.......Where would we have finished without Armstrong and Murphy?
We can argue and disagree about the merits and failings of any City Manager till the cows come home. It worries me though that not one of them has provided any sustained success.
We could say our current owners have some part in all this, but it goes back to well before their time.
Just hope that MR can break this jinx one way or another and we're celebrating promotion next season. It's been far too long.
It isn't me arguing over nothing. I said that Pressley was lucky to have both Wilson and Clarke. When he didn't have both our results divebombed. I also said that Mowbray would have done better with Wilson and Clarke. You have tried arguing the point.We didn't have Wilson and Clarke for a full season you douche! You're backing up my point.
Would you like to explain?Comedy genius from "Astute"
It isn't me arguing over nothing. I said that Pressley was lucky to have both Wilson and Clarke. When he didn't have both our results divebombed. I also said that Mowbray would have done better with Wilson and Clarke. You have tried arguing the point.
Hold back with the truth. Some people don't like it.Come on. It's not like CW & LC scored 7 more goals in what I believe was described as half a season than AA & JM scored in a full season. No. Wait. That's exactly what happened.
Because the way things were panning out Forest were absolutely cruising and Bristol looked very likely to get an equaliser against Birmingham.But why was it wrong for him to try and get the goals to stay up?
You know I never actually said that, but pointless keep pointing that out to you until eternity, so you go knock yourself out with it.does it matter with otis? the guy said TM was the WORST manager in ccfc history.
Don't know about peace cc4l just fed up going round in circles. Bottom line is they have all tried and failed for various reasons.
Pressley had the best squad since we were in Division three. He also had a much higher budget. Mowbray failed badly on putting a squad together because he tried to bring in players he couldn't afford. Would he have managed it with the same budget as Pressley?We're at complete cross purposes. My argument is that I think Pressley did a better job than Mowbray all in all, considering the squads that each manager had at their disposal for the duration of the 2013/14 and 2015/16 seasons respectively.
Where would we have finished without Armstrong and Murphy?
i just dont agree with you on this one. it happens!
1pt from safety to 17pts from safety. that is the reason for relegation. nothing to do with squad. slade got us relegated for me.
Sure. I accept your opinion, but that's football. People do have different takes on things.I honestly cannot look at Mowbray and say he was innocent. I don't believe the squad was good enough.
We know each other's stance on it, let's just try not to bring it up too much. Promotion next year will help!
Pressley had the best squad since we were in Division three.
Pressley had the best squad since we were in Division three. He also had a much higher budget. Mowbray failed badly on putting a squad together because he tried to bring in players he couldn't afford. Would he have managed it with the same budget as Pressley?
So what you're saying is Mowbray's tactics were too geared towards Armstrong, and if he'd got his team playing in a more balanced way, we'd have done better?Moussa was our 3rd highest goal scorer with 12 in the league (3 more than Murphy managed) and even Baker chipped in with 7. 15/16 season we Had AA on 21, JM on 9, then 3 or 4 players with 4 each and then you get into 1's and 2's.
In the last 38 games in charge how many points do you think we achieved under Mowbray?
So what you're saying is Mowbray's tactics were too geared towards Armstrong, and if he'd got his team playing in a more balanced way, we'd have done better?
I would've said 30 but I wouldn't be surprised it was less
You've set the bar very low - it was 39. That included a late season rally against uninterested opponents in 15 16 when we got 12 points out of 15.
Two players who along with Vincelot he brought in. Mowbray's only full season here was continually disrupted by injuries to centre halfs.Despite losing Clarke in January, and Wilson with an injury which meant Jordan Clarke had a run out up front. He achieved 8 points less than Mowbray. Mowbray of course having the luxury of Armstrong and Murphy all season, 2 players who have proven they are a level above with Fleck and Vincelot looking likely to follow.
I would've said 30 but I wouldn't be surprised it was less
Two players who along with Vincelot he brought in. Mowbray's only full season here was continually disrupted by injuries to centre halfs.
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