no idea tbhYou would think so, but their wage budget must be ridiculous , I expect a mass exodus from Blackburn.
Despite losing Clarke in January, and Wilson with an injury which meant Jordan Clarke had a run out up front. He achieved 8 points less than Mowbray. Mowbray of course having the luxury of Armstrong and Murphy all season, 2 players who have proven they are a level above with Fleck and Vincelot looking likely to follow.
Hmm.seems tm gets flack for summer recruitment making us shit
but recruitment that made us great season before doesnt matter lol. just cos we didnt finish 2 places higher.
Hmm.
I'll defend managers at our club as having to wade through a sea of shit before managing the team.
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owners must never be blamed. always the manager
Then we've had a lot of fair weather managers in the last 30 years with Mowbray and Robins probably being the fairest of them all.I dont dislike Mowbray, hes probably a great guy but he is a very average football manager. He is what I call a fair weather manager. When the going is good he is fine, when its bad his qualities drop with it. Simple as that. Stats are stats but ultimately, he has failed everywhere hes gone.
Then we've had a lot of fair weather managers in the last 30 years with Mowbray and Robins probably being the fairest of them all.
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Why would anyone be biased? What favour is to be gained by the use of flattery. Is Mowbray giving out a tenner to everyone on here who has stuck up for him?
Your opinion obviously differs to mine and lots of others on here but to see it as a conspiracy is odd.
It amazing just how many bad managers (scapegoats) we have had. No one can be that unlucky!!!
Its not just us. How many teams have long term managers anymore? apart from the big clubs.
I know it's a real sad epidemic of football these days. However saying that some are still worse than others . 4 managers in a year is quite an achievement.
So the whole panel on SSN were incorrect? They all said the same thing. Every one of them. It was a bad move.they ended up 2 goals off forest even though forest won 3 nil, if he had shut up shop at 1 or 2 nil they still would have gone down. makes sense to add to tally and stay up on goal difference. yes you were misinformed that he cocked up.
If you do a bit of topline research, you will see that since Grimsby in 2006, where he couldn't agree a new contract, he has been sacked or forced out of the door at every club he's been at... the good work in a 15 year career you're alluding to is losing in the play offs at Grimsby and Leyton Orient, hardly the stuff of miracles.
Nothing in his CV suggested he could turn us around.
It's not a conspiracy. Everytime people mention Mowbray, the people that love him just bring up Slade.
I don't think a single person has said Slade was good, but there are many that deny Mowbray wasn't and get really obsessive to the point it can't even be debated.
Don't you think Mowbray did pretty poorly in the last 10 months of his job?
There is clear bias. If Pressley had performed like Mowbray in the last 10 months he would not have escaped as much criticism as Mowbray has. It's ridiculous.
So the whole panel on SSN were incorrect? They all said the same thing. Every one of them. It was a bad move.
Blackburn's only hope was for Bristol City to snatch a draw. Priority number one for Blackburn was to win their game first. They were leaving big gaps at the back and could have easily let Brentford back into the game and conceded an equaliser. They were never going to top Forest's score.
The whole panel agreed and said it was the wrong move.
Armstrong and Murphy were inexperienced when we had them. So was Wilson. But he had Clarke to learn from and he learned very quickly.Despite losing Clarke in January, and Wilson with an injury which meant Jordan Clarke had a run out up front. He achieved 8 points less than Mowbray. Mowbray of course having the luxury of Armstrong and Murphy all season, 2 players who have proven they are a level above with Fleck and Vincelot looking likely to follow.
Goals win games. Lack of goals gets you relegated. It is ridiculous to say that Pressley would have done any good without Wilson and Clarke. We were leaking goals badly. We could let 4 in and still not lose.Oh, and I forgot that Mowbray also had Jack Stephens playing centre half for us, the same player who is currently first choice for Southampton. To compare the squad he had at his disposal with what Pressley had is ridiculous.
They went down by 2 goals. Check the table. Yes he was shit for us. But the usual blaming everything on one person on here is back.So the whole panel on SSN were incorrect? They all said the same thing. Every one of them. It was a bad move.
Blackburn's only hope was for Bristol City to snatch a draw. Priority number one for Blackburn was to win their game first. They were leaving big gaps at the back and could have easily let Brentford back into the game and conceded an equaliser. They were never going to top Forest's score.
The whole panel agreed and said it was the wrong move.
You got it. It wasn't his fault 100% like some are trying to make out. And he wasn't 100% to blame for Blackburn getting relegated either.This thread is nothing to do with Slade.
Not a single person is saying he wasn't shit or not accountable for our relegation.
This thread is about Mowbray, and he was also shit and is partly accountable for our relegation.
Goals win games. Lack of goals gets you relegated. It is ridiculous to say that Pressley would have done any good without Wilson and Clarke. We were leaking goals badly. We could let 4 in and still not lose.
What's your point? So we were not playing fast attacking football because of our strikers? Wilson moved and helped his new club get to the Prem. I'm sure that if Mowbray had Wilson and Clarke last season we wouldn't have gone down and would have been at least payoffs.What's your point? Pressley wasn't fortunate enough to have a Ben Turner or a Jack Stephens?
the clear bias i agree with
look how many threads made about mowbray being poor. otis even called him worst manager in history
slade does worse. lower ppg. takes us from 1pt from safety to 17. not a peep about him lol
so yeah clear anti-tm bias. cant even be debated.
What's your point? So we were not playing fast attacking football because of our strikers? Wilson moved and helped his new club get to the Prem. I'm sure that if Mowbray had Wilson and Clarke last season we wouldn't have gone down and would have been at least payoffs.
I am not sticking up for him. As I said his signings were not good enough. But just read back. Some are trying to say that it wasnhis fault alone that we got relegated and his fault that Blackburn went down.
Both clubs have something in common. Shit owners. But it is as though some want to blame Mowbray for everything.
Goals win games. Lack of goals gets you relegated. It is ridiculous to say that Pressley would have done any good without Wilson and Clarke. We were leaking goals badly. We could let 4 in and still not lose.
I don't think people are blaming everything on one person. The disaster that was last season though unfortunately started with the summer recruitment of Mowbray and Venus and the very bad start under Tony Mowbray. That was the catalyst.They went down by 2 goals. Check the table. Yes he was shit for us. But the usual blaming everything on one person on here is back.
Oh and it wasn't just 2 goals, Astute.They went down by 2 goals. Check the table. Yes he was shit for us. But the usual blaming everything on one person on here is back.
Oh and it wasn't just 2 goals, Astute.
They were 2 goals worse off on goal difference, but because Forest had scored more goals for the season it was 3 goals they needed to survive. Matching Forest wasn't good enough, they had to surpass Forest's score.
The reason I said it was 4 they needed was because they needed 4 at that time in the game. Blackburn were winning 2-1 and Forest were 3-0 up and when SSN were reporting on Mowbray making the changes and throwing all the forwards on, at that point they needed to score 4 more goals.
They obviously then went on to get a 3rd goal meaning they still needed another 3.
SSN were just saying the number one priority for Blackburn was to actually just win their game first but they were in danger of not doing that due to leaving great big holes at the back.
As I say, could be Mowbray was being fed the wrong information by his coaching staff.
No, the bias is the other way.
As I said, everyone agrees that Slade is accountable for our relegation in part, but a lot of people somehow get really defensive when it is suggested Mowbray is also accountable.
All I am saying is that they both are, and Mowbray is getting a lot of protection considering the downward slide started with him. Slade was utterly useless and took the downward slide into a freefall.
Mowbray fucked up and gave Slade a grenade, Slade then pulled the pin out.
Be easy to say wouldn't it, if Forest had conceded a couple of goals and Blackburn had shut up shop... why didn't they just go for it?but do you see that with way results panned out you cant condemn TM for trying to outscore forest?
exactlyBe easy to say wouldn't it, if Forest had conceded a couple of goals and Blackburn had shut up shop... why didn't they just go for it?
But why was it wrong for him to try and get the goals to stay up?Oh and it wasn't just 2 goals, Astute.
They were 2 goals worse off on goal difference, but because Forest had scored more goals for the season it was 3 goals they needed to survive. Matching Forest wasn't good enough, they had to surpass Forest's score.
The reason I said it was 4 they needed was because they needed 4 at that time in the game. Blackburn were winning 2-1 and Forest were 3-0 up and when SSN were reporting on Mowbray making the changes and throwing all the forwards on, at that point they needed to score 4 more goals.
They obviously then went on to get a 3rd goal meaning they still needed another 3.
SSN were just saying the number one priority for Blackburn was to actually just win their game first but they were in danger of not doing that due to leaving great big holes at the back.
As I say, could be Mowbray was being fed the wrong information by his coaching staff.
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