Mowbray, Go or Stay? (1 Viewer)

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Sep 19, 2016

SkyblueBazza said:
So why were most welcoming his appointment?

...onwards & upwards PUSB

May I suggest it's because he Tony Mowbray was the most experienced manager who was interested in the job !!! :happy:

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 19, 2016

shelby76 said:
There is no way tony will be sacked now, that anderson has walked, the only way he will go is if he walks, hope he sees the season out.

New broom is the most likely time for some fella to be sacked. Allows an elegant get-out for both manager and club.

georgehudson · Sep 19, 2016

given the hand he appears to have been dealt by our owners,
i think he has done as reasonable a job as could be expected,
of course, the thing is we don't know anything because our owners appear to think being secretive is the way to run a football cub

Ibby · Sep 19, 2016

Mogga needs wins quickly for sure now.

georgehudson · Sep 19, 2016

i seriously worry that if TM were to go, what calibre of manager would CCFC be able to attract

Buster · Sep 19, 2016

Dont think we should rush to replace him but surely the clock must be ticking

Nick · Sep 19, 2016

georgehudson said:
i seriously worry that if TM were to go, what calibre of manager would CCFC be able to attract

Same was said before him

Sky Blue Old Boy · Sep 19, 2016

TM Needs more time, the team is not that bad apart from lack of goals and we have players to return from injury.
I would say by middle of December still in bottom 4 then he has to go.

georgehudson · Sep 19, 2016

in fairness nick, i can't remember people saying that of Elvis

Nick · Sep 19, 2016

georgehudson said:
in fairness nick, i can't remember people saying that of Elvis

And thorn

georgehudson · Sep 19, 2016

no, not really, a mate of mine had a good old chat with him, & expletive deletives apart his opinion of the owners was not very high, then again his managerial career was embryionic @ that point

ccfcway · Sep 19, 2016

georgehudson said:
i seriously worry that if TM were to go, what calibre of manager would CCFC be able to attract

playing devils advocate, what calibre would be unable to be better than 3 goals in 8 games, bottom of the table TM ?

Nick · Sep 19, 2016

ccfcway said:
playing devils advocate, what calibre would be unable to be better than 3 goals in 8 games, bottom of the table TM ?

Have a look at every other manager in the division.

ccfcway · Sep 19, 2016

I could see the likes of....

Paul Clement
Paul Lambert
Brian McDermott

sniffing around should the vacancy become available

georgehudson · Sep 19, 2016

perhaps this is where the problem lies;
as the devils advocate (satan supporter) ccfcway, would you apply for, & be capable of doing, the job ?
i proffer the point that the owners are doing severe damage to their own reputation

ccfcway · Sep 19, 2016

georgehudson said:
perhaps this is where the problem lies;
as the devils advocate (satan supporter) ccfcway, would you apply for, & be capable of doing, the job ?
i proffer the point that the owners are doing severe damage to their own reputation

I applied a few years ago. Got a rejection letter from Paul Fletcher, saying I didn't have my coaching badges. Got it framed on my wall.

georgehudson · Sep 19, 2016

i applied too, but my coaching badges, from National Express, were not accepted

Steve.B50 · Sep 20, 2016

Grendel said:
Signing Mowbray, clapham and Venus as well as paying off Pressley and McFarland was anything but cheap.

They did not pay off Pressley and McFarland stayed to end of season as payment.

Hobo · Sep 20, 2016

TM is desperate for results, which I thought would start last Saturday.

However sacking the guy will achieve nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Grendel · Sep 20, 2016

Steve.B50 said:
They did not pay off Pressley and McFarland stayed to end of season as payment.

So a "sensible solution" was paying nothing then?

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...s/coventry-city-steven-pressley-legal-8879939

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 20, 2016

Mogga is out of contract at the end of this season.

I doubt Sisu will do anything before then.

Hobo · Sep 20, 2016

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Mogga is out of contract at the end of this season.

I doubt Sisu will do anything before then.

They might if the pay off isn't too great vs relegation.

martcov · Sep 21, 2016

Hobo said:
They might if the pay off isn't too great vs relegation.

I think they have bigger problems than relegation.... And I think TM will be there until almost the end of the season whatever happens. If he turns things round on the field, he and Venus may even get a new 2 year contract. We would always find another manager. We always have. 2 years later we will either have another new one or be looking for a one. The manager is not the main cause of our malaise.

Captain Dart · Sep 21, 2016

At this rate Venus or the Academy Manager will be interim manager for the last 2 months.

robbiekeane · Sep 21, 2016

What do people think the setup is with recruitment at the moment?
MV sends Mowbray a shortlist of players and Mowbray makes the call? Or the other way round.

Hobo · Sep 21, 2016

robbiekeane said:
What do people think the setup is with recruitment at the moment?
MV sends Mowbray a shortlist of players and Mowbray makes the call? Or the other way round.

Venus has said he does all the initial research, sourcing and prep talks with players and agents. Then TM has final interview and final say.

Gosford Green · Sep 21, 2016

What a difference a year makes. A year ago he was the best manager we have had and now around 30% of the fan base here want him gone.

He has not covered himself in glory with his recruitment policy, that might be down to available budget and the CT have not helped with stupid headlines that we are closing in on signing fucking no one, the first few weeks of bullshit was probably pressure from above to shift season tickets but here we are in September watching the results of 3 months of recruitment.

Coming out and claiming Vincelot being sold was his idea did not help his standing to much either. Especially as it was supposed to strengthen the squad.

Would I keep him ? Yes.

robbiekeane · Sep 21, 2016

Gosford Green said:
What a difference a year makes. A year ago he was the best manager we have had and now around 30% of the fan base here want him gone.

He has not covered himself in glory with his recruitment policy, that might be down to available budget and the CT have not helped with stupid headlines that we are closing in on signing fucking no one, the first few weeks of bullshit was probably pressure from above to shift season tickets but here we are in September watching the results of 3 months of recruitment.

Coming out and claiming Vincelot being sold was his idea did not help his standing to much either. Especially as it was supposed to strengthen the squad.

Would I keep him ? Yes.

A year ago was the last time we had any sort of form

Captain Dart · Sep 21, 2016

robbiekeane said:
A year ago was the last time we had any sort of form

and today we are bottom..

oucho · Sep 21, 2016

I'm amazed that so many fans, both in this poll and on the CT survey, want him to stay. I personally do but normally by now the knives are out.

Maybe people are seeing through the "blame the manager" thing and are starting to realise where the blame really lies.

robbiekeane · Sep 21, 2016

oucho said:
I'm amazed that so many fans, both in this poll and on the CT survey, want him to stay. I personally do but normally by now the knives are out.

Maybe people are seeing through the "blame the manager" thing and are starting to realise where the blame really lies.

oh fuck off

where does the blame for on the pitch results lie? those nasty pasty owners who Tony Mowbray and Mark Venus agreed a competitive budget with and then spunked it on shit players? Who were quoted last January as saying they wouldn't say no to giving extra money if it was the right player?

If we had the 6th best budget in the league and we couldn't ever get higher than 6th then yes, that would be the owners fault. If we have the 6th best budget in the league and we are rock fucking bottom of the league, is that SISUs fault? is it their fault he makes dog shit substitutions then wastes another one fixing it? Is it their fault that hes signed 6 bloody strikers and they can't get more than 5 goals between them?

What if we were top of the league now absolutely smashing it? Would you be praising SISU or would you be praising TM and MV for doing so well against the odds? I wonder....

Our fans are really fucking stupid

skybluetony176 · Sep 21, 2016

robbiekeane said:
oh fuck off

where does the blame for on the pitch results lie? those nasty pasty owners who Tony Mowbray and Mark Venus agreed a competitive budget with and then spunked it on shit players? Who were quoted last January as saying they wouldn't say no to giving extra money if it was the right player?

If we had the 6th best budget in the league and we couldn't ever get higher than 6th then yes, that would be the owners fault. If we have the 6th best budget in the league and we are rock fucking bottom of the league, is that SISUs fault? is it their fault he makes dog shit substitutions then wastes another one fixing it? Is it their fault that hes signed 6 bloody strikers and they can't get more than 5 goals between them?

What if we were top of the league now absolutely smashing it? Would you be praising SISU or would you be praising TM and MV for doing so well against the odds? I wonder....

Our fans are really fucking stupid

If, if we have the sixth biggest budget.

Agreed a competitive budget? What makes you so sure it was agreed and competitive? Accepted the budget offered through a lack of options is just as likely.

What most people understand is that the club for decades isn't an environment that breeds success. We've all seen the results of that first hand. You say it isn't SISU's fault but the truth is they haven't addressed this issue, just the opposite. They've exacerbated it.

If understanding all that makes me one of the "fucking stupid" fans I'll happily take that.

Chip Batch · Sep 21, 2016

robbiekeane said:
A year ago was the last time we had any sort of form

No it wasn't. We won 4 out of 5 at the end of last season.

martcov · Sep 21, 2016

robbiekeane said:
oh fuck off

where does the blame for on the pitch results lie? those nasty pasty owners who Tony Mowbray and Mark Venus agreed a competitive budget with and then spunked it on shit players? Who were quoted last January as saying they wouldn't say no to giving extra money if it was the right player?

If we had the 6th best budget in the league and we couldn't ever get higher than 6th then yes, that would be the owners fault. If we have the 6th best budget in the league and we are rock fucking bottom of the league, is that SISUs fault? is it their fault he makes dog shit substitutions then wastes another one fixing it? Is it their fault that hes signed 6 bloody strikers and they can't get more than 5 goals between them?

What if we were top of the league now absolutely smashing it? Would you be praising SISU or would you be praising TM and MV for doing so well against the odds? I wonder....

Our fans are really fucking stupid

Every couple of years or less we land at the same place. Manager is shit. So, are all managers shit? Or is there another common denominator ( e.g. The backing from the owners ) is shit?

Nick · Sep 21, 2016

martcov said:
Every couple of years or less we land at the same place. Manager is shit. So, are all managers shit? Or is there another common denominator ( e.g. The backing from the owners ) is shit?

How does the budget and resources available compare in our league though? It won't be last.

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