MOT Expired (5 Viewers)

Marty · Jul 20, 2023

I forget mine every year, drive down the M6/A45 daily, had police behind me with expired MOT. Never been stopped or issued a fine. Don't worry about it.

clint van damme · Jul 20, 2023

Marty said:
I forget mine every year, drive down the M6/A45 daily, had police behind me with expired MOT. Never been stopped or issued a fine. Don't worry about it.

I doubt the police check the MOT status of every car in front of them!

Nuskyblue · Jul 20, 2023

clint van damme said:
I doubt the police check the MOT status of every car in front of them!

Don't they have an automatic deely that scans the number plate? I think it pings if there is anything amiss (no insurance, tax, MoT, criminal activity etc).

PVA · Jul 20, 2023

Nuskyblue said:
Don't they have an automatic deely that scans the number plate? I think it pings if there is anything amiss (no insurance, tax, MoT, criminal activity etc).

No not all police cars. I think it's probably only a fairly small number that have it. Your standard police car won't I don't think, it'll just be those that are used specifically for tackling driving crimes I'd imagine - the 'traffic cops'.

Nuskyblue · Jul 20, 2023

PVA said:
No not all police cars. I think it's probably only a fairly small number that have it. Your standard police car won't, it'll just be those that are used specifically for tackling driving crimes I'd imagine - the 'traffic cops'.

All of them nowadays isn't it

hamertime · Jul 21, 2023

napolimp said:
I just realised my MOT certificate expired 3 weeks ago. I really need my car tomorrow and this weekend, anyone know if it's a big risk to drive without MOT? I don't think I'll be able to get it done tomorrow. Thanks.

Highly likely you would get away with it. I drive for a living and had a van Mot expired by 2 months it was in London 2 days a week and driven everyday nothing happened.

Mcbean · Jul 21, 2023

ANPR cameras are present in a lot of garages nowadays !

Houchens Head · Jul 21, 2023

What's an MOT? I have a brand new car every 3 years!

napolimp · Jul 21, 2023

Houchens Head said:
What's an MOT? I have a brand new car every 3 years!

It's a riddle, McNally or Thomas?

duffer · Jul 21, 2023

Fwiw I got pulled a few years ago, driving without a MOT. By a traffic car with ANPR on the M42/A42, unless it's changed since then I don't think regular response cars have ANPR fitted, but I could be wrong.

It was a genuine mistake, and it was a good six months out of date (I genuinely thought I'd sorted the ticket when I'd taxed the car).

Anyway, no huge grief from the copper, fixed penalty notice (£60 then, £100 now, iirc). If you had a bump I suspect the insurers might quibble, but the police didn't even mention it.

duffer · Jul 21, 2023

Mcbean said:
ANPR cameras are present in a lot of garages nowadays !

They are, but I don't think they're used for driving offences like this, mostly to discourage and prosecute bilking, I suspect. I'd probably done 10,000 miles before I got pulled...

napolimp · Jul 21, 2023

I just went online to try and pay my tax on the vehicle, due beginning of August, and it says I can't because the vehicle doesn't have a valid MOT certificate. So how did you guys who drove without valid MOT manage to tax your vehicle? I'm pretty sure you can't get away with just not paying tax or declaring SORN.

Grendel · Jul 21, 2023

napolimp said:
I just went online to try and pay my tax on the vehicle, due beginning of August, and it says I can't because the vehicle doesn't have a valid MOT certificate. So how did you guys who drove without valid MOT manage to tax your vehicle? I'm pretty sure you can't get away with just not paying tax or declaring SORN.

No you can’t tax a car with no MOT but it may already in other peoples cases have a road fund licence before the MOT expired

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 21, 2023

napolimp said:
I just went online to try and pay my tax on the vehicle, due beginning of August, and it says I can't because the vehicle doesn't have a valid MOT certificate. So how did you guys who drove without valid MOT manage to tax your vehicle? I'm pretty sure you can't get away with just not paying tax or declaring SORN.

Get mot now, tax car end next June, and that allows nearly a year without mot if you forget to do it

Macca1987 · Jul 24, 2023

Thought I'd get the reminders when MOT due, mainly cos the kids are hopeless with remembering things, turns out the only one out of date (6 months nearly) is the missus car, OOPS

Houchens Head · Jul 24, 2023

I thought most phones these days have a calendar? Simple enough to put a reminder in for things like doctors appointments, meetings and yes, even the date for your next MoT. Set the reminder for a week or so before.

ccfc922 · Jul 24, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
Very unlikely as I honestly drove from December to July without an mot. Not knowingly but ignorance no excuse

You sir, need a calendar.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 24, 2023

ccfc922 said:
You sir, need a calendar.

Sorted now after that

duffer · Jul 24, 2023

napolimp said:
I just went online to try and pay my tax on the vehicle, due beginning of August, and it says I can't because the vehicle doesn't have a valid MOT certificate. So how did you guys who drove without valid MOT manage to tax your vehicle? I'm pretty sure you can't get away with just not paying tax or declaring SORN.

You can't, in a nutshell. But you can tax it just before the MOT runs out.

If you sort out an MOT it'll appear within a day on the system I think, and you'll then be able to tax it. You have to pay for the whole month though, so doing it at the start of the month is a better idea financially, but only if you don't need the car for a week or so (apologies if you already know that!).

In the meantime you're really supposed to SORN it. They can issue a fine if the vehicle is neither taxed nor SORN, though I don't know how regularly that happens. I think there's a bit of leeway in that.

Whilst I've definitely been a bit naughty/forgetful in the past, driving without tax *and* MOT might be a bit too risky for me. In theory they could clamp the car where it's parked, if it's on the public road untaxed.

duffer · Jul 24, 2023

ccfc922 said:
You sir, need a calendar.

Who needs a calendar when you can have a friendly policeman pull you over to make you aware.

In the old days you'd just get a 7-day "producer" to show your MOT and insurance certificate at the station. No computers then!

It felt like I got pulled so many times when riding bikes that I could've kept a filing cabinet full of them. Easier to just cart everything around in your wallet in those times. At least it made you look rich in the pub.

Dions Dong · Jul 24, 2023

Re insurance ,

the lack of MOT wouldn’t invalidate insurance necessarily.

Once the insurers were made aware by the police of the lack of MOT (should they bother to call) the insurers must inform the policy holder by post of their intention to cancel the policy.

This is presuming that having no MOT would invalidate the policy (assuming such a condition is present within the policy).

It cannot be invalidated retrospectively at the scene by an officer and form the basis of another traffic offence.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 24, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
Very unlikely as I honestly drove from December to July without an mot. Not knowingly but ignorance no excuse

Next time take a break. Tiredness kills!

LastGarrison · Jul 28, 2023

napolimp · Jul 30, 2023

Thanks for advice, all sorted now. Tax was free as well

Macca1987 · Aug 2, 2023

all done, was nearly 18 months since her last MOT and she'd only done 3000 miles, might get her to get rid of it and save all the hassle

Robinshio · Aug 4, 2023

LastGarrison said:
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the mix of decimals and fractions is not great there
in fact as there were only 80 vehicles, why didnt they just state the numbers

LastGarrison · Aug 4, 2023

Robinshio said:
the mix of decimals and fractions is not great there
in fact as there were only 80 vehicles, why didnt they just state the numbers

I think it’s part of Sunak’s commitment to making maths a central objective of the education system.

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