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Most likely outcome for the club next season. (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Captain Dart
  • Start date Dec 6, 2018
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What do you believe is the most likely outcome for the club next season

  • Club will cease to exist

    Votes: 15 13.3%
  • Club will be owned by SISU and be playing at the Ricoh

    Votes: 85 75.2%
  • Club will be owned by SISU and be playing elsewhere

    Votes: 10 8.8%
  • Club will have new owners and be playing at the Ricoh

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • Some other outcome, please do tell

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Total voters
    113
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #36
ajsccfc said:
I'm sure I read that they got permission to use the name, but The Jimmy Hill Way is more of an insult to him than anything Sunderland fans could come up with in their wildest dreams.
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I have pointed that out, they couldn't understand it.
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #37
how many people who use this site go to City & Wasps games? what are your opinions?
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #38
ajsccfc said:
I'm sure I read that they got permission to use the name, but The Jimmy Hill Way is more of an insult to him than anything Sunderland fans could come up with in their wildest dreams.
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Not sure if it’s an insult, I’ll say this JH was Unwell for a few years before passed away, had he been his old self I’m certain he would have been at the fore front of any protests big time against Northampton and other things so the name “Jimmy Hill Way” is perhaps appropriate
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #39
Magwitch said:
Not sure if it’s an insult, I’ll say this JH was Unwell for a few years before passed away, had he been his old self I’m certain he would have been at the fore front of any protests big time abs instead Northampton and other things so the name “Jimmy Hill Way” is perhaps appropriate
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Can't see him telling people to boycott their football club or go and watch a different team he was a director of instead.
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #40
Your spot on Nick he wouldn’t have but I believe he would have used his media influence at the highest level and the situation would have been in the national press a lot earlier.
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #41
I've thought for some time that the views expressed on this site are not closely aligned with those of the majority of the fan base.
Compare the graphic of Cov Tel survey (390 responses) below with the poll above. It shows a marked difference.
Whether that is due to better knowledge of people who post on this site or misplaced optimism I can't say, but there is definitely an air of gloom out there.
All SISU have to do is stop the legals and the problem goes away, but they won't and I don't understand why, Where is the upside to their decision?
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2018
  • #42
Will probably be a match by match deal which would probably “suit” both parties in the interim. But it will be rinse and repeat...
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2018
  • #43
Captain Dart said:
I've thought for some time that the views expressed on this site are not closely aligned with those of the majority of the fan base.
Compare the graphic of Cov Tel survey (390 responses) below with the poll above. It shows a marked difference.
Whether that is due to better knowledge of people who post on this site or misplaced optimism I can't say, but there is definitely an air of gloom out there.
All SISU have to do is stop the legals and the problem goes away, but they won't and I don't understand why, Where is the upside to their decision?
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A third of our fans think we basically won’t exist in our current form after this season.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2018
  • #44
shmmeee said:
A third of our fans think we basically won’t exist in our current form after this season.
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Sometimes I come to the conclusion that a third of our fans don't exist.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2018
  • #45
Lots of don’t knows sitting on the fence
 
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Houdi

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #46
Can't see how this ends happily. The EFL have made it clear we can only play in Coventry.As most sane people have known for years,the Ricoh is the only credible option,there is nowhere else.
Past performance suggests there is no way SISU will back down, regardless of the consequences..Wasps stated a year ago,their viewpoint over any future deal. Again for them to backdown would involve a serious loss of face and credibility.
If our fans were going to protest about Wasps being here they would have surely done that when they moved here,that ship has sailed.
The EFL have no power or influence over Wasps,and SISU can hardly threaten Wasps anymore than they are already doing. Unfortunately Wasps don't have to do anything they can just sit tight, and I expect the rest of football is both bored and confused by this never ending saga.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #47
If Wasps point blank refuse to negotiate with us that totally moved the goalposts and we can of course protest.

No ship sailed there. That would be a total change of direction. They dealt with us last year with a legal battle ongoing, so if this year they say no deal that means a shift in position.

If Wasps say no deal we should totally and significantly protest and I do feel we would, because that could well be the end of Coventry City.

That is not going to paint Wasps in a very good light at all, Sisu or no Sisu.
 
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Houdi

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #48
Otis said:
If Wasps point blank refuse to negotiate with us that totally moved the goalposts and we can of course protest.

No ship sailed there. That would be a total change of direction. They dealt with us last year with a legal battle ongoing, so if this year they say no deal that means a shift in position.

If Wasps say no deal we should totally and significantly protest and I do feel we would, because that could well be the end of Coventry City.

That is not going to paint Wasps in a very good light at all, Sisu or no Sisu.
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Except that is exactly what Wasps have said and indeed what they have made crystal clear months ago.They could not have been clearer and indeed they have repeated that position many times.
Protest by doing what, boycotting Wasps games? Most Coventry City don't go anywhere near Wasps games and rightly so. I can't imagine what any fan can do legally,that will force a change of mind by Wasps.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #49
Houdi said:
Except that is exactly what Wasps have said and indeed what they have made crystal clear months ago.They could not have been clearer and indeed they have repeated that position many times.
Protest by doing what, boycotting Wasps games? Most Coventry City don't go anywhere near Wasps games and rightly so. I can't imagine what any fan can do legally,that will force a change of mind by Wasps.
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They made it crystal clear last year too. They said exactly the same thing about Sisu having to drop the court cases.

Of course we don't go to Wasps games.

We therefore encourage those that do go to boycott games and also encourage then to switch to Cov rugby.

We should already be doing it anyway, but a real campaign to divert people away from Wasps and on to Cov.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #50
I think we need to hit wasps in the pocket, stop buying overpriced shit in the ground I know the football club get a cut, also an attack on anybody who sponsors them by the refusing to buy their goods this might not matter to jlr but small local companies will suffer and hopefully move away from them
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #51
Otis said:
They made it crystal clear last year too. They said exactly the same thing about Sisu having to drop the court cases.

Of course we don't go to Wasps games.

We therefore encourage those that do go to boycott games and also encourage then to switch to Cov rugby.

We should already be doing it anyway, but a real campaign to divert people away from Wasps and on to Cov.
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The trust have said they do not think that sort of approach is acceptable
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #52
Vote cast. I'm not bothering to vote again if the answer isn't what you wanted.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #53
dubed said:
Vote cast. I'm not bothering to vote again if the answer isn't what you wanted.
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Oh, unlike Brexit then.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #54
Houdi said:
Except that is exactly what Wasps have said and indeed what they have made crystal clear months ago.They could not have been clearer and indeed they have repeated that position many times.
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So exactly the same as last year when they then changed their minds and agreed a new deal for this season.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #55
chiefdave said:
So exactly the same as last year when they then changed their minds and agreed a new deal for this season.
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Yup. Same scenario.

Maybe we're on our last verbal warning and next year we'll get a written one.
 
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AVWskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #56
Otis said:
If Wasps point blank refuse to negotiate with us that totally moved the goalposts and we can of course protest.

No ship sailed there. That would be a total change of direction. They dealt with us last year with a legal battle ongoing, so if this year they say no deal that means a shift in position.

If Wasps say no deal we should totally and significantly protest and I do feel we would, because that could well be the end of Coventry City.

That is not going to paint Wasps in a very good light at all, Sisu or no Sisu.
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Otis I still think CCC too should be approached, when signing the sales contract with Wasps they did mention the protection of both CCFC and CRFC, they now say they only meant the term of our then rental agreement so why mention us in the same breath as the rugby club who are not subject to a 4 year contract. This surely points out they have clearly moved the goalposts

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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #57
AVWskyblue said:
Otis I still think CCC too should be approached, when signing the sales contract with Wasps they did mention the protection of both CCFC and CRFC, they now say they only meant the term of our then rental agreement so why mention us in the same breath as the rugby club who are not subject to a 4 year contract. This surely points out they have clearly moved the goalposts

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It still needs to be confirmed what it actually meant for CCFC. They said one thing at the time that was pretty clear, they have now gone back on it to say "no it was just 4 years, blame SISU".

What happens if SISU leave tomorrow? Is there any protection in place for the football club or are we still at the mercy of others?

Somebody like the Trust could easily question them on it, doesn't have to be shouty or name calling. Just asking them to clarify what it means for the club and their future, even beyond SISU.
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #58
Sky Blue Pete said:
Lots of don’t knows sitting on the fence
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Dunno will come back to you on that!
 
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AVWskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #59
Nick said:
It still needs to be confirmed what it actually meant for CCFC. They said one thing at the time that was pretty clear, they have now gone back on it to say "no it was just 4 years, blame SISU".

What happens if SISU leave tomorrow? Is there any protection in place for the football club or are we still at the mercy of others?

Somebody like the Trust could easily question them on it, doesn't have to be shouty or name calling. Just asking them to clarify what it means for the club and their future, even beyond SISU.
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Agree completely Nick, yet I still think there's milage in questioning why we and CCRC were spoken of in the same clause yet the rugby club are not subject to this 4 year thing that the council are using to body swerve the original meaning

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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #60
AVWskyblue said:
Agree completely Nick, yet I still think there's milage in questioning why we and CCRC were spoken of in the same clause yet the rugby club are not subject to this 4 year thing that the council are using to body swerve the original meaning

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Of course it is just to get out of explaining it. It's pretty much what other parties have done for years to just make it all about SISU. We know that SISU are massive bellends, it doesn't mean others can't be as well.

Time after time they can say things which turn out to be nonsense because they know they won't ever be questioned.
 
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