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oldfiver

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  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #491
skybluetony176 said:
But A) The club hasn't applied to have any covenant changed or applied for planning permission. B) Commercially Sensitive information? Isn't the covenant a matter of public record available to anyone at request to the LRO? C) If the club ever did look to change the covenant (no indication as yet that they're even considering it) is the final decision CCC's? Wouldn't that be central government as presumably any change of use and therefore covenant is a planning matter?
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No covenant needs to be changed see #482 - CCC reported it wanted to insert a covenant and then found it could not
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #492
Sky Blue Kid said:
And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.
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Where have I slagged you off?
I have actually said you were MISLED !!
If you see something that is totally wrong would you let that go without correcting it?
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #493
oldfiver said:
Where have I slagged you off?
I have actually said you were MISLED !!
If you see something that is totally wrong would you let that go without correcting it?
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Where have I said you?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #494
Yup, just like work.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #495
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yup, just like work.
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STFU and put some clothes on! You'll get Nick done for pornography.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #496
Sky Blue Kid said:
I've already said i've shown one account of goings on at the Butts. I really couldn't give a f**k what anyone believes I stated (Don't shoot the messenger for the fifth time) but it seems you're all good at oneupmanship eh
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You're doing your best
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #497
Sky Blue Kid said:
Where have I said you?
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In red - twice
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Who said it was?

I have posted that answer several times over several threads but it continues to be ignored
Some people do not like the idea the Council were caught lying - which is what it was

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #498
The non footballing clause was a sub clause introduced
oldfiver said:
Now stop bickering !

Coventry City Council have responded to a leaked email saying that it was attempting to block Coventry City from playing at the Butts Park Arena.

According to the Coventry Telegraph's Simon Gilbert, "Coventry City Council can't block change in Butts Park Arena lease to allow Coventry City to ground share with Coventry Rugby Club but changes in rent between leases would have to be approved by councillors"

A leaked email to the rugby club in January 2016, said the council wanted a new clause inserted which would specifically prevent “professional association football or training associated therewith” in exchange for making other changes to the sub-lease.

The Coventry Telegraph asked Nigel Clews, assistant director of property and asset management at Coventry City Council, why they had tried to insert the clause at that time and he said: “No, it doesn’t look good. But we were trying to flush out details.
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Spot on. A fishing expedition according to the "bend over backwards" council.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #499
oldfiver said:
In red - twice
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Who said it was?

I have posted that answer several times over several threads but it continues to be ignored
Some people do not like the idea the Council were caught lying - which is what it was

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.
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Yep they were caught with their pants down but oddly certain posters on here don't even see it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #500
fernandopartridge said:
You're doing your best
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He's made a twat of himself and even UKIP Tony, despite exchanging mutual likes on this thread has deserted him to his inevitable shafting.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #501
Sky Blue Kid said:
This enough?.... Mr Millerchip, a former Coventry Rugby Club player, donated thousands of pounds to the club when the outfit was struggling financially. He currently owns Coventry Rugby Properties LLP, which owns the 125-year lease from Coventry City Council for the Butts Park Arena site. That lease contains restrictions which mean the site can only currently be used by a rugby club.
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Does this mean the lease can only be held by a rugby club without imposing a ban on other sports/activities.

Other events take place there, certainly the CAMRA Beer festival for around the last 10 years and I see a Comedy Club an upcoming Fireworks display .

Sky Blue Kid said:
Coventry United are not a Pro outfit Nick.
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Semi-pro, they pay some players appearance fees.
Sums of £200/match have been mentioned.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #502
oldfiver said:
In red - twice
↑
Who said it was?

I have posted that answer several times over several threads but it continues to be ignored
Some people do not like the idea the Council were caught lying - which is what it was

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.
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That was not a go at you, it was a generalisation. Or is there anyone else that did a Nick, Oldfiver, and saw it as him personally?
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #503
http://www.coventry.gov.uk/downloads/file/9287/20105594

Dear

Freedom of Information Act 2000

Thank you for requesting information about Coventry RFC’s lease of The Butts which the
Council received on 19th April 2013. Your request has been considered under the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 ("The Act").

You have requested the following information:

I would like a copy of Coventry RFC’s lease for its ground at The Butts and any
associated letters from the club’s officers. If the club was to move to The Ricoh, can you
please advise on what planning permission would be available for that site? Should the
site not be used for rugby football in the future, does this mean that the facilities would
revert to Mr Keith Fairbrother who gave them to the club free of charge?

Following careful consideration, the information you requested concerning details of
Coventry RFC’s lease of The Butts falls under the exemption(s) in Section 21 of the Act,
which relates to 'information reasonably accessible to the applicant by other means'.
The exemption applies as the information regarding leases and supporting material is
publicly accessible at the Land Registry.

Please visit the Land Registry website at www.landregistry.gov.uk or contact the Land
Registry customer support team on 0844892111. The lease in this case was dated 21
January 2003 between the City of Coventry Council and Butts Park Venture Ltd.

In respect of your query about planning applications, more details are available via the
Council's Planning Portal, located at:

http://www.coventry.gov.uk/info/200074/planning
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #504
Captain Dart said:
Does this mean the lease can only be held by a rugby club without imposing a ban on other sports/activities.

Other events take place there, certainly the CAMRA Beer festival for around the last 10 years and I see a Comedy Club an upcoming Fireworks display .


Semi-pro, they pay some players appearance fees.
Sums of £200/match have been mentioned.
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I wouldn't have a clue mate I only "Put it out there"
Most will be semi-Pro but they won't be getting appearance money but expenses is what it will be termed as, but possibly changed from when I was playing.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #505
Frankley said:
That discussions were going on between CRFC and CCFC at all was something that was commercially sensitive.
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Someone should have told Les Read. He's the one that broke the story wasn't it?
 
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Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #506
Grendel said:
He's made a twat of himself and even UKIP Tony, despite exchanging mutual likes on this thread has deserted him to his inevitable shafting.
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Have I really? Let me ask... Who made a twat of themself by passing off estimations as a fact?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #507
skybluetony176 said:
Someone should have told Les Read. He's the one that broke the story wasn't it?
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Oh it was him now. I thought Gilbert tried to claim that. He seemed pretty sure of himself.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #508
Grendel said:
Yep they were caught with their pants down but oddly certain posters on here don't even see it.
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Come on Grenduffy, tell us what it was like when you got caught with your pants down in "Estimation/factsgate"?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #509
Sky Blue Kid said:
That was not a go at you, it was a generalisation. Or is there anyone else that did a Nick, Oldfiver, and saw it as him personally?
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I think a direct reply to my post addressed to me with the word "you" used twice is a bit of a give away
I accept your misuse of the word "you" and have moved on
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #510
oldfiver said:
I think a direct reply to my post addressed to me with the word "you" used twice is a bit of a give away
I accept your misuse of the word "you" and have moved on
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Very Gracious of you.. but I still say you knew exactly what I was saying.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #511
Sky Blue Kid said:
I wouldn't have a clue mate I only "Put it out there"
Most will be semi-Pro but they won't be getting appearance money but expenses is what it will be termed as, but possibly changed from when I was playing.
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All the first team squad are salaried
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #512
torchomatic said:
Oh it was him now. I thought Gilbert tried to claim that. He seemed pretty sure of himself.
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Sorry. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? Only you seem to be doing both.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #513
oldfiver said:
All the first team squad are salaried
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By that post I take it you are privvy to the inner sanctum of Cov Utd then.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #514
SBK and UKIP Tony - the football forums equivalent to Les Dennis and Dustin Gee as comedy geniuses.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #515
Sky Blue Kid said:
Have I really? Let me ask... Who made a twat of themself by passing off estimations as a fact?
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I never did. It was a use of a football website to analyse transfer fees. You said you'd "heard" Westwood was transferred for £250,000 and the website showed or believed £700,000 when analysing the accounts. This also agreed with the press versions at the time. I never used the words "estimated facts" - you went on a typical Alf garnet rant and we all laughed at you - ukip Tony is trying to save you but that's like asking for football lessons off graham withey - you are drowning.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #516
Grendel said:
I never did. It was a use of a football website to analyse transfer fees. You said you'd "heard" Westwood was transferred for £250,000 and the website showed or believed £700,000 when analysing the accounts. This also agreed with the press versions at the time. I never used the words "estimated facts" - you went on a typical Alf garnet rant and we all laughed at you - ukip Tony is trying to save you but that's like asking for football lessons off graham withey - you are drowning.
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Just one question why do you keep up with this ukip thing?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #517
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Just one question why do you keep up with this ukip thing?
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Because G would vote for Trump.
I've heard they use the same Barber
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2016
  • #518
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Just one question why do you keep up with this ukip thing?
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Merely as there are two Tony's - one a legal eagle and the other a ukip supporter - I am merely differentiating between the two to avoid confusion.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #519
Grendel said:
Merely as there are two Tony's - one a legal eagle and the other a ukip supporter - I am merely differentiating between the two to avoid confusion.
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Of course you do....... and no doubt you always call the other one 'legal eagle Tony'.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #520
Deleted member 5849 said:
Aren't we all?
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Nope, I'm not a brain dead PC slacker am I?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #521
Captain Dart said:
Nope, I'm not a brain dead PC slacker am I?
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Well...
 
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Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #522
Grendel said:
I never did. It was a use of a football website to analyse transfer fees. You said you'd "heard" Westwood was transferred for £250,000 and the website showed or believed £700,000 when analysing the accounts. This also agreed with the press versions at the time. I never used the words "estimated facts" - you went on a typical Alf garnet rant and we all laughed at you - ukip Tony is trying to save you but that's like asking for football lessons off graham withey - you are drowning.
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LMFAO... You've got to be a sociopath pal. You admitted it on this forum. We all saw it. You said "I believe the website "Estimations" because they are more "Fact" than your "Reported to be" from the newspapers. Hahahaha. I'll find it and show you what a arsehole you really are hahaha.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #523
Sky Blue Kid said:
LMFAO... You've got to be a sociopath pal. You admitted it on this forum. We all saw it. You said "I believe the website "Estimations" because they are more "Fact" than your "Reported to be" from the newspapers. Hahahaha. I'll find it and show you what a arsehole you really are hahaha.
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Please do
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #524
I've got a link to the thread in question if anyone is bothered.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #525
hill83 said:
I've got a link to the thread in question if anyone is bothered.
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Yes please mate
 
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