georgehudson
Well-Known Member
well it's on bbc1 on midlands today in a mo, with little peter plisner
The council secured money from the ERDF and DT based on what service level they were told that the train providers would give.
A spokesman for the train firm said: “We made it clear at the start of this, five years ago, those timetables were seen as an aspiration. We were clear additional stock would be a challenge.“There are no more diesel trains left in the UK and there are no more being built.”
well it's on bbc1 on midlands today in a mo, with little peter plisner
St07, which planet are you on ?
currently a day saver on w/mid buses is £3.90,
well i suppose that's something like £2.20,
& 2-3 minutes by car ? from where to where ?
utter tosh !!!!
I suggest you retract your original post and admit it's a major council Fuck Up
Is there anything stopping a different operator putting on trains during "events" and charging a few quid for the trip, or does London Midland have exclusive use of the line?
Perhaps a few carriages could shuttle between Cov and the Ricoh in between the regular service, a bit like they do between Stourbridge Town and Junction? If memory serves you can drive it from either end of the train, so when the driver gets to one end he goes down the other end of the train to drive back. I know nothing about trains so apologies if I'm suggesting utter crap.
So presumably that ensured all that was included in a water tight contract and London Midland will be heavily penalised for failing to provide the contracted service. Or could it be that, as London Midland have stated today, they told CCC this might occur 5 years ago.
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Utter tripe
The council secured money from the ERDF and DT based on what service level they were told that the train providers would give.
CCC did there job and got the ERDF And DFT money.
Simon must be having a field day, this story is the gift that keeps on giving. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see this picked up by the nationals.
How is it utter tripe? You yourself stated:
So CCC committed to spend public money to improve rail infrastructure based on a level of service they were told the train providers would give. That public money has now been spent and the service will not be provided.
Only if you think the job of CCC is to build a station that can't be used for its intended purpose.
The originally proposed service on match days equates to approx 2.5K capacity an hour, we are now told it is 75 per hour except match days when it is 0. Imagine if you worked in the private second and spent millions of your employers money to deliver a similar result, do you think they would agree with you that the job had been done properly?
To me it seems there's two possible scenarios.
1) London Midland did promise the higher level of service. In this scenario this should have been contract prior to a penny of public money being spent with reimbursement of public money should the promised service then fail to materialise.
2) London Midland didn't promise the higher level of service. In this scenario you really have to question the council allow such a high spend on a project that brings no benefit.
The real enemies are the MPs of most colours who continue with the fallacy of a privatised railway system. Ignoring that privatisation is the route of this fragmentation lets them off the hook.
You're brighter than this. It's not CCC's money. They had to bid for it (from the managing authority of the ERDF - DCLG I think), part of the bid is that the subject matter has to be delivered (European progs I was involved in allowed delivery til 2015).
The real enemies are the MPs of most colours who continue with the fallacy of a privatised railway system. Ignoring that privatisation is the root cause of this fragmentation lets them off the hook.
I didn't say it was CCC's money, I said it was public money. Or does it materialise out of thin air?
Like we said earlier in this thread. If you're someone who would like the opportunity to use the station on a regular basis write to your MP. Mr Pawsey had an email from me earlier this evening. That's what they're there for use them.
I think the problem is a lack of diesel rolling stock. The line was supposed to be electrified by now but isn't and doesn't look likely to be until 2017.
I think the problem is a lack of diesel rolling stock. The line was supposed to be electrified by now but isn't and doesn't look likely to be until 2017.
If Wiki is to be believed London Midland have a sizable amount of diesel rolling stock. Given that the majority of matches are weekends and most lines operate a reduced service at weekends, meaning not all the rolling stock is being used, would it not be possible to divert some over here?
I think the problem is a lack of diesel rolling stock. The line was supposed to be electrified by now but isn't and doesn't look likely to be until 2017.
Have I? Where?
Utter tripe
CCC did there job and got the ERDF And DFT money.
Hobo - don't hate the player hate the game. They get a relatively short contract, shareholders don't want to wait for a return. The company doesn't own trains so have to lease them. They can't invest in new leases because the franchise is up soon and have no other spare lines on which to use the stock outside of peak. Also use their current staff to the max. The trains are owned by investment banks.
All these are privatisation issues of fragmentation, the companies are the symptom.
Hobo - don't hate the player hate the game. They get a relatively short contract, shareholders don't want to wait for a return. The company doesn't own trains so have to lease them. They can't invest in new leases because the franchise is up soon and have no other spare lines on which to use the stock outside of peak. Also use their current staff to the max. The trains are owned by investment banks.
All these are privatisation issues of fragmentation, the companies are the symptom.
Sadly I don't think the new station will be appearing on the programme just starting on BBC2 anytime soon....
Haha........
Give It another 10-15 years and what has been promised may just mstrrialise.
That's how It works Isn't It?
Come on Tony. Just admit that the council are about as competent as Sisu.
There have been a plethora of these programs ,however anything with Anita Rani or Liz Bonin In gets my vote.Sadly I don't think the new station will be appearing on the programme just starting on BBC2 anytime soon....
Nah, it'll be closed down because user numbers are below predictions, that's how it usually works!
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