clint van damme
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you have defended what has happened to them which has been described as ethnic cleansing by the UN.
As I said, when States start trying to wipe out or expel minorities we're on dodgy ground.
Where have I defended ethnic cleansing? Jesus christ.
Yes I agree, they should be pulled up for it. What I am saying is that the Rohingya shouldn't get a free ride for their involvement either.
you have defended what has happened to them which has been described as ethnic cleansing by the UN.
As I said, when States start trying to wipe out or expel minorities we're on dodgy ground.
So maybe you should criticise Pakistan & Saudi Arabia, those states persecute minorities.
Here you go, 46 categories. Category:Persecution by Muslims - Wikipedia
So maybe you should criticise Pakistan & Saudi Arabia, those states persecute minorities.
Here you go, 46 categories. Category:Persecution by Muslims - Wikipedia
I think pretty much everyone criticises SA and Pakistan.
Maybe but certain people seem to think a few ultra right wing gun carrying, Nazi saluting nutters in the States is a bigger threat to civilisation than religious intolerance, violence & general ignorance in those countries. In my view the former is despicable but a limited & contained threat while the latter is a clear and present danger to the hard won freedoms of UK & European society.
I said in an earlier post, in my opinion, the threat from fundamental Islam is far higher than that of the far right which in turn is far higher than any left wing group opposing them.
I actually agree with you on that.
Just to complete the circle though, and what's weird, is that the left seem to have got into bed with Islam. I really don't understand that though as the values of both those two are completely contradictory!
Some on the left may of, but there are also the likes of Richard Dawkins who are fierce critics of Islam.
You seem to lump all Muslims in together, totally ignoring the Sunni/Shia dynamic of it. The Shia have probably suffered more at the hands of fundamentalists than anyone.
not the only religion oppose it though is it?I am being general. I don't see how people can fight for LGBT rights and also back Islam. You can't have it both ways surely?
I am being general. I don't see how people can fight for LGBT rights and also back Islam. You can't have it both ways surely?
By that logic you couldn't fight for LGBT rights and be Christian but life isn't as simple as that.
You're not wrong. Although not baking a cake versus throwing someone off a building isn't quite so comparable!
Who are the ones finding Saudi and Pakistan with cash and arms? Us.Maybe but certain people seem to think a few ultra right wing gun carrying, Nazi saluting nutters in the States is a bigger threat to civilisation than religious intolerance, violence & general ignorance in those countries. In my view the former is despicable but a limited & contained threat while the latter is a clear and present danger to the hard won freedoms of UK & European society.
British arms sales to repressive regimes soar to £5bn since electionWho are the ones finding Saudi and Pakistan with cash and arms? Us.
Who are the ones finding Saudi and Pakistan with cash and arms? Us.
To my mind we should be cutting ties with any country that spreads fundamentalist ideology of any kind but, as usual, profit for the very wealthy comes before everything else.
Come on, Corbyn and Abbot are far worse!!
Well they applauded when English civilians were murdered on their own soil so yes they are clearly a lot worse.
Try telling that to victims in Birmingham, Warrington etc. From the IRA thugs that Corbyn and Abbot considered their allies and friends.
times change. Zionist terrorists used to kill British people, they are now our allies. Do you believe they shouldn't be?
The political spectrum is always altering.
The point is Corbyn and McDonnell and Abbott were openly supporting an organisation at the time it was murdering men, women and children on UK soil
If hewas attending ISIS funerals and cosying up to them that's ok is it?
I seem to remember you sneering about innocent UK civilians being murdered by the countrys' army during the troubles.
The point is Corbyn and McDonnell and Abbott were openly supporting an organisation at the time it was murdering men, women and children on UK soil
If hewas attending ISIS funerals and cosying up to them that's ok is it?
No I didn't but I do notice your reluctance to discuss this issue. You've already said you admire Abbott.
I'm not saying it's OK, I'm saying times change.
The political landscape changes. Like I said, Zionists became allies, Mandela turned into a hero, there's loads of examples. I will vote for Corbyn, I like what he says.
I'm more concerned by the cult building up around his name, chanting at festivals and the like.
He's a politician, I want him to be given a chance, but if he fails get rid of him, same as any other politician.
You certainly displayed a complete lack of compassion or empathy. I respect her for what she achieved during a time when certain stoneage attitudes were about.
I didn't see you being critical of Hammond or Johnson when they got figures wrong and couldn't remember party policy when being interviewed. I wonder why that is?
Thanks, Jethro.
I've shown you numerous links on this. So I ask again- if I was in hospital and said I only wanted white people treat me would that be racist?
Sorry I meant Bernard. Stop deflecting away from your own hypocrisy.
This is a nice deflection from the OP...
But you are the one deflecting. I raised the subject of these 3 and their links with terrorists - you can't answer
I ask you a question about defining a racist - you will not answer
Your call - I guess you do believe white people should be allowed that right and are reluctant to admit it.
Interesting view you support there.
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