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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #106
Deleted member 5849 said:
We can always aim higher than an exploitative scumbag who shows no consideration for a club's heritage, identity, and who is no progression on the in it for the finance nonsense we have now.
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I'm sorry but weren't you all in to the idea of RB Coventry at some stage? That's worse in my opinion.

Apologies if I have you confused.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #107
Liquid Gold said:
I'm sorry but weren't you all in to the idea of RB Coventry at some stage?
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Was your fucking mouth out!!!
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #108
Deleted member 5849 said:
We can always aim higher than an exploitative scumbag who shows no consideration for a club's heritage, identity, and who is no progression on the in it for the finance nonsense we have now.
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He may do things differently here, we're a totally different type of club to Newcastle
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #109
Gynnsthetonic said:
He may do things differently here,
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Because the sensible thing to do is watch how somebody runs their businesses, and assume they'll do the total opposite elsewhere.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #110
Deleted member 5849 said:
Was your fucking mouth out!!!
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I guess not then.

I'm sure we had a fairly big difference of opinion on something though. Maybe a phoenix??
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #111
Much Better than what we've got , and looking the only viable option to a better more stable future

We aren't as big as Newcastle, our aspirations are not on the same level, we'd be happy to just play at anfield again
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #112
Liquid Gold said:
I guess not then.

I'm sure we had a fairly big difference of opinion on something though. Maybe a phoenix??
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Find me any clue in this thread where I think Red Bull would be a good owner(!)

SISU ready to sell?

Can you explain what you mean by can has started to be kicked. What is the can lol Sent from my SM-G991B using TapatalkGuessing the can is the need to cash in by selling a player Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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JonesBob

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #113
I may get shouted down but if Ashley just wanted the stadium and not the teams that would be great. It would be in the stadium's interest to have two successful teams there so he may 'invest' in the clubs but not own them.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #114
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Now he's so rich he doesn't have people around him telling him what he's doing is absolutely mad.

Plus I think he clearly comes across as high functioning autistic. I've no doubt he's incredibly intelligent, but at the same time he seems to have almost no understanding of empathy or human behaviour, so he has very low emotional intelligence. So IMO the reason he has all this crazy shit is because he doesn't factor in the human element and cost involved. It's not important to him.
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I think he’s just the programmer son of a diamond mine owner who got lucky in the dot com bubble then managed to create an image that overinflated his companies TBH.
 
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hamil99

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #115
JonesBob said:
I may get shouted down but if Ashley just wanted the stadium and not the teams that would be great. It would be in the stadium's interest to have two successful teams there so he may 'invest' in the clubs but not own them.
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Or he wants to tarmac the pitch and have gigs there every week. Who knows, hopefully something will be written into the contract where our 10 yr agreement is upheld.
 

fatso

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #116
JonesBob said:
I may get shouted down but if Ashley just wanted the stadium and not the teams that would be great. It would be in the stadium's interest to have two successful teams there so he may 'invest' in the clubs but not own them.
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Why would he invest money in businesses that he doesn't own, and that don't make any money?
I've got a feeling that's not what made him rich.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #117
fatso said:
Why would he invest money in businesses that he doesn't own, and that don't make any money?
I've got a feeling that's not what made him rich.
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He's renowned for being a massive mug.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #118
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
He's renowned for being a massive mug.
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Literally .
Looks like a Rugby prop
 

kingfield park skyblues

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #119
What goes around comes around. Club stressing stadium owners. Stadium owners stressing club
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #120
I would have Ashley over SISU any day - SISU have made no progress in 14 years we have gone down and back to where we started - as fans been treated the worst and made homeless - get to **** SISU
 
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mullingar

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #121
Wonga
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #122
Is ACL a profitable business, given it's just gone into administration? Ashley has business acumen but it's not got a great track record.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #123
If it were Ashley it would be whole thing - ACL and SISU - get any wasp signs burnt on bonfire night
 
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Sky Blue Dal

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #124
I always thought Newcastle United owned St James park . But it does not its Newcastle council does. Makes me wonder if he will be interested in buying the Sky Blues or would he just be interested in renting to us.

I hope he does buy us and bring the club and stadium together but not holding my breath.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #125
Sky Blue Dal said:
I always thought Newcastle United owned St James park . But it does not its Newcastle council does. Makes me wonder if he will be interested in buying the Sky Blues or would he just be interested in renting to us.

I hope he does buy us and bring the club and stadium together but not holding my breath.
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He will I'm sure. Who wouldn't if they could afford it ?
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #126
Why wouldn't Ashley just raise the rent to point that we couldn't pay forcing the sale of the club at a discount? He's a hard-nosed bastard after all! I just see this leading to further stand-offs and unpleasant circumstances.
 
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Sky Blue Dal

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #127
Speedie's Head said:
Why wouldn't Ashley just raise the rent to point that we couldn't pay forcing the sale of the club at a discount? He's a hard-nosed bastard after all! I just see this leading to further stand-offs and unpleasant circumstances.
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I believe he can if he gets the stadium as that 10 year rental contract we had with Wasps becomes invalid and reasons why SISU and CCFC are unsettled by where we be playing next. Could be reason why EFL is sympathising with us.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #128
Speedie's Head said:
Why wouldn't Ashley just raise the rent to point that we couldn't pay forcing the sale of the club at a discount? He's a hard-nosed bastard after all! I just see this leading to further stand-offs and unpleasant circumstances.
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Yep exactly this. Sisu will be pissed if they don't get the stadium as they will finally realize they will never get it. Ashley will raise the rent to try and force Sisu to sell and they will probably play hardball again and we'll be sharing with Walsall this time. I really can't see this ending well if Ashley only buys the stadium. I think the EFL will eventually say enough is enough aswell.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #129
Ashley or any new owner can’t raise the rent.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #130
Speedie's Head said:
Why wouldn't Ashley just raise the rent to point that we couldn't pay forcing the sale of the club at a discount? He's a hard-nosed bastard after all! I just see this leading to further stand-offs and unpleasant circumstances.
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He'd have to wait another 8 years.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #131
mark82 said:
He'd have to wait another 8 years.
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By which point we're moving into our Warwick University stadium anyway
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #132
shmmeee said:
Ashley or any new owner can’t raise the rent.
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Why's that then? The business has tanked and failed so any current agreement is likely dead in the water with it. I think all bets are off around what might or might not happen next. Maybe the freehold dictates that the stadium remains but who knows that for sure...
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #133
Speedie's Head said:
Why's that then? The business has tanked and failed so any current agreement is likely dead in the water with it. I think all bets are off around what might or might not happen next. Maybe the freehold dictates that the stadium remains but who knows that for sure...
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No it hasn’t. It’s being sold as a going concern. The lease still stands as an asset unless the council claw it back, which they’ve said they’re not doing.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #134
shmmeee said:
No it hasn’t. It’s being sold as a going concern. The lease still stands as an asset unless the council claw it back, which they’ve said they’re not doing.
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I believe the administrator will decide on those things at a later date. It depends what a buyer is prepared to pay for after due diligence is complete and contracts of sale have been drawn up etc...
 

The Philosopher

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #135
shmmeee said:
No it hasn’t. It’s being sold as a going concern. The lease still stands as an asset unless the council claw it back, which they’ve said they’re not doing.
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There’s a law in place that stops landlords raising rents (beyond a reasonable amount such as inflation) to settled businesses.

Even after 8 years the Landlord has to have a good reason to inflate rent above “reasonable”

The Landlord in this case would be the 250 year leaseholder.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #136
The Philosopher said:
There’s a law in place that stops landlords raising rents (beyond a reasonable amount such as inflation) to settled businesses.

Even after 8 years the Landlord has to have a good reason to inflate rent above “reasonable”

The Landlord in this case would be the 250 year leaseholder.
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No we have a agreed lease fixed for a set period - if it expires it’s re-negotiated
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #137
Grendel said:
No we have a agreed lease fixed for a set period - if it expires it’s re-negotiated
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But the landlord can’t just throw any figure in, hence the 54 act.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #138
The Philosopher said:
But the landlord can’t just throw any figure in, hence the 54 act.
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he doesn’t have to renew!
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #139
Grendel said:
he doesn’t have to renew!
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I’ve no idea if the sublease has a ‘54 exemption - otherwise it’s down to security of Tenure. Not easy to evict
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #140
The bloke is a scavenger, waiting until his prey is close to death before pouncing, and then stripping it of all of its dispensable parts (most often the staff). He won't be interested in buying CCFC from Otium unless we go into administration and he can get it on the cheap.
I'd love Sisu to up the amount they spend on the team, etc, but don't expect (C)Ashley to be any better.
I hope i am proved wrong.
 
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