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Mike Ashley Takeover …Ready and Waiting (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 17, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #456
Sick Boy said:
Exactly - sadly I think a fair few posters managed to convince themselves that CCFC was what MA was interested in above all else when it clearly isn’t the case.
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Welcome to the Chunderdome
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #457
It's all going to be OK, Richard says so

 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #458
He said the other week he wasn't interested in CCFC.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #459
He might not be interested in CCFC, who really knows? If he wants his ownership of ACL to be successful however, then he will need to incorporate them into his plans regardless. The more successful CCFC are, the higher the profile that is then reflected on the venue, and the more likely it is to be a success for him. No one knows for sure of course, but logically he is likely to want have an element of control over CCFC (maybe through a stooge rather than directly) to effect that, rather than relying on a 3rd party he has no trust in.

On the face of it that ought to be good for the club in the long term as MA then has to have a vested interest in the club being successful. The problem of course, is right now and despite SISU, we are on the verge of that type of success anyhow, and we are in the relatively rare situation of there being a real bond between supporters/ players/ manager that I have not really seen the like of in my 50 years supporting the club. With just a little more support and investment the club could realistically challenge for promotion to the PL this season.

Unfortunately though if MA is looking to take control of CCFC either directly or indirectly by financially crippling our owners & getting it on the cheap, then while it might be a legitimate tactic in the business world, it has a much more damaging effect in regard to football and to those of us invested in it, and is likely to set the club backwards and having to start again from scratch. SISU themselves of course used the same tactic in moving us to Northampton, and it us fans that pay for such scheming. That bond between supporters, players & manager will also not be quickly won back once lost, so I just hope some kind of common sense and foresight prevails, whereby if MA does want control of the club, that he just gets on and makes an offer, and that SISU also play ball by not being unrealistic in their expectations. The pity is that the history of both parties suggests that is unlikely, and I am fearful of what January is likely to bring our way.
 
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ceetee

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #460
I'm fearful that the club might not survive until January
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #461
ceetee said:
I'm fearful that the club might not survive until January
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Go and take a tablet there’s a good lad
 
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ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #462
So what if Sepalla decides she can't win, liquidates the club and sells of Ryton TG to cut her losses ?

Oh, and I'm a long way away from being a lad
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #463
ceetee said:
So what if Sepalla decides she can't win, liquidates the club and sells of Ryton TG to cut her losses ?

Oh, and I'm a long way away from being a lad
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Win what?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #464
ceetee said:
So what if Sepalla decides she can't win, liquidates the club and sells of Ryton TG to cut her losses ?

Oh, and I'm a long way away from being a lad
ceetee said:
So what if Sepalla decides she can't win, liquidates the club and sells of Ryton TG to cut her losses ?

Oh, and I'm a long way away from being a lad
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All possibilities and a protracted game of takeover would aid that in terms of making it through to January.
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ceetee

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #465
shmmeee said:
Win what?
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Well, if all of you experts on here are correct and ..........

Sepalla is trying brinkmanship to get a better deal than the one offered by FG, but fails

she can't afford to own the club anymore, even more so if the cost of renting CBS goes up

The supposed deal to sell 85% falls through as a result of delays caused by the eviction

....... she's pretty well lost
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #466
ceetee said:
So what if Sepalla decides she can't win, liquidates the club and sells of Ryton TG to cut her losses ?

Oh, and I'm a long way away from being a lad
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She'd get a lot less from liquidating the club than she would from simply flogging players in the transfer window, why on earth would she do it? The club's assets are Ryton and a few players. The values of those assets would be significantly impaired in a liquidation.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #467
ceetee said:
Well, if all of you experts on here are correct and ..........

Sepalla is trying brinkmanship to get a better deal than the one offered by FG, but fails

she can't afford to own the club anymore, even more so if the cost of renting CBS goes up

The supposed deal to sell 85% falls through as a result of delays caused by the eviction

....... she's pretty well lost
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Why would the deal fall through? How would the eviction (if it happens and everyone involved says it won’t) delay the sale?

She’s sold the club. She seemed to accept failure some time last summer. Even if Kings deal falls through there’s plenty of others who would bid aside from Storey.

I’m not concerned. Nothing that’s happened so far deserves this level of paranoia IMO.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #468
shmmeee said:
Why would the deal fall through? How would the eviction (if it happens and everyone involved says it won’t) delay the sale?

She’s sold the club. She seemed to accept failure some time last summer. Even if Kings deal falls through there’s plenty of others who would bid aside from Storey.

I’m not concerned. Nothing that’s happened so far deserves this level of paranoia IMO.
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Didn’t King say nothing had been signed last time he cropped up?

I mean I agree - I’m not concerned, it’s just frustrating
 
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rexo87

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #469
She'd at least sell the players first and then liquidate in Feb lol

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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #470
shmmeee said:
Why would the deal fall through? How would the eviction (if it happens and everyone involved says it won’t) delay the sale?

She’s sold the club. She seemed to accept failure some time last summer. Even if Kings deal falls through there’s plenty of others who would bid aside from Storey.

I’m not concerned. Nothing that’s happened so far deserves this level of paranoia IMO.
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Let’s prepare for a very happy Christmas
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #471
slowpoke said:
Let’s prepare for a very happy Christmas
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Ok Gary.
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #472
ceetee said:
Well, if all of you experts on here are correct and ..........

Sepalla is trying brinkmanship to get a better deal than the one offered by FG, but fails

she can't afford to own the club anymore, even more so if the cost of renting CBS goes up

The supposed deal to sell 85% falls through as a result of delays caused by the eviction

....... she's pretty well lost
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If Seppala just liquidated the club she’d probably face legal action and more than likely would be barred from ever being a director of a company again
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #473
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Didn’t King say nothing had been signed last time he cropped up?

I mean I agree - I’m not concerned, it’s just frustrating
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Standard hedge fund type MO for me until proven otherwise: no communication, no confirmation of anything until it happens. We had how long before we even saw Joy let alone heard from her after she took over? And as there’s no Ranson type replacing Boddy (or at least not yet) there’s no public face really. The only media he’s done was basically being accosted outside court.

It might all fall apart. It might all be a ruse. But until we see something happen (confirmation of a pull out, transfer embargo not lifted by Jan, etc) I’m willing to wait and see.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #474
alexccfc99 said:
If Seppala just liquidated the club she’d probably face legal action and more than likely would be barred from ever being a director of a company again
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Why?
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #475
Nick said:
Why?
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Well for a start I think the people who are employed by the club would have something to say about their workplace just being liquidated out of the blue
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #476
alexccfc99 said:
Well for a start I think the people who are employed by the club would have something to say about their workplace just being liquidated out of the blue
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they may do but that's happened to me in the past when the owner of the company decided he'd had enough. not sure there is anything to stop a company deciding to sell off all its assets from a legal pov
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #477
alexccfc99 said:
Well for a start I think the people who are employed by the club would have something to say about their workplace just being liquidated out of the blue
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It happens all the time.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #478
People are starting to sound like the Trust circa 2014 now.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #479
slowpoke said:
Let’s prepare for a very happy Christmas
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Getting rode by big Mike with a strap on might make your Christmas but its not my cup of tea!
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #480
shmmeee said:
Standard hedge fund type MO for me until proven otherwise: no communication, no confirmation of anything until it happens. We had how long before we even saw Joy let alone heard from her after she took over? And as there’s no Ranson type replacing Boddy (or at least not yet) there’s no public face really. The only media he’s done was basically being accosted outside court.

It might all fall apart. It might all be a ruse. But until we see something happen (confirmation of a pull out, transfer embargo not lifted by Jan, etc) I’m willing to wait and see.
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Thought the embargo was lifted and HMRC paid off ?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #481
slowpoke said:
Thought the embargo was lifted and HMRC paid off ?
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Embargo still there according to the EFL:

Embargoes

The Official home of the English Football League
www.efl.com
 

The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #482
Richard Keys doing a PR stunt for Ashley.

Just a question, does anyone know if Mark Hateley has any connection to MA - through Rangers or anything?

He popped up with Storey / Hoff so just wondering if there is a link somewhere?
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #483
shmmeee said:
Embargo still there according to the EFL:

Embargoes

The Official home of the English Football League
www.efl.com
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That could be handy for King “love to sign players as promised but there’s this embargo”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #484
shmmeee said:
People are starting to sound like the Trust circa 2014 now.
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Does look that way. Or a bit more like Bart Simpson at Camp Krusty
 
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OyJimmy

Member
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #485
Seppalla and King can’t win this battle. They either sell the club to Ashley or spend a fortune on a new ground which could take years.

Ashley meanwhile doesn’t strike me as the type who’s really in this for real estate. He’s all about retail and running football clubs. I suspect he’s totally across what SISU are like and will haggle them down on price or just destroy them.

Sisu and King should just sue for peace and get what they can or get cracking on a new stadium. It’s the end game now
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #486
OyJimmy said:
Seppalla and King can’t win this battle. They either sell the club to Ashley or spend a fortune on a new ground which could take years.

Ashley meanwhile doesn’t strike me as the type who’s really in this for real estate. He’s all about retail and running football clubs. I suspect he’s totally across what SISU are like and will haggle them down on price or just destroy them.

Sisu and King should just sue for peace and get what they can or get cracking on a new stadium. It’s the end game now
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This is the thing, people getting excited about him destroying sisu. He wouldn't be, he would be doing it to the club.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #487
OyJimmy said:
Seppalla and King can’t win this battle. They either sell the club to Ashley or spend a fortune on a new ground which could take years.

Ashley meanwhile doesn’t strike me as the type who’s really in this for real estate. He’s all about retail and running football clubs. I suspect he’s totally across what SISU are like and will haggle them down on price or just destroy them.

Sisu and King should just sue for peace and get what they can or get cracking on a new stadium. It’s the end game now
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So again the real end game from the start has been CCFC
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #488
An
Sick Boy said:
So again the real end game from the start has been CCFC
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it wouldn’t make sense - let’s say he’s in it for the Ricoh only.

if SISU/King go through with their pie in the sky stadium, Ashley is left with a loss making stadium with no sitting tenant. There isn’t. A year round market for open air concerts

same as if we’re evicted, go tits up and disappear.

it makes no sense whatsoever for them to buy the arena. Without a tenant there’s no major advertising for “sports direct”
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #489
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
An

it wouldn’t make sense - let’s say he’s in it for the Ricoh only.

if SISU/King go through with their pie in the sky stadium, Ashley is left with a loss making stadium with no sitting tenant. There isn’t. A year round market for open air concerts

same as if we’re evicted, go tits up and disappear.

it makes no sense whatsoever for them to buy the arena. Without a tenant there’s no major advertising for “sports direct”
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I’m surprised more hasn’t been made of him speaking with the franchise before to be honest.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #490
Sick Boy said:
I’m surprised more hasn’t been made of him speaking with the franchise before to be honest.
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Have they announced their take over yet?
 
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