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Mike Ashley Takeover …Ready and Waiting (1 Viewer)

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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #1
I’m hoping we use this thread. I‘m glass half full on this one.
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #2
Flying Fokker said:
I’m hoping we use this thread. I glass half full on this one.
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I hope so too... only sane way forward now I think.... but the King sounded a bit mental on his latest post hearing interview with Gilbert....
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #3
At what cost to the club?

If it's going to happen, hopefully it will just be a "here's your money, bye"
 
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shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #4
Nick said:
At what cost to the club?

If it's going to happen, hopefully it will just be a "here's your money, bye"
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King said along the lines of he wants to still challenge Ashley for the ground! Someone needs to reign him in already!!
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #5
shepardo01 said:
King said along the lines of he wants to still challenge Ashley for the ground! Someone needs to reign him in already!!
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Scrap, drinking contest?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #6
Has to happen , can't be ran by chancers forever , what's the point in doug king buying the club , or a better question ... why on earth would you bother ?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #7
shepardo01 said:
King said along the lines of he wants to still challenge Ashley for the ground! Someone needs to reign him in already!!
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Where ?
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #8
It would be great to start with a new new owner in December.
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #9
Evo1883 said:
Where ?
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Interview on CWR....
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #10
Flying Fokker said:
It would be great to start with a new new owner in December.
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....that also owns the ground...
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #11
shepardo01 said:
Interview on CWR....
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Since the verdict?

The stadium is done , gone .. it's Ashley's
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #12
Evo1883 said:
Has to happen , can't be ran by chancers forever , what's the point in doug king buying the club , or a better question ... why on earth would you bother ?
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A lease to play there for the club, the fact ACL have totally run out of cash suggests it's by no means a certainty it's a cash cow, and the fact that getting the club debt free, as opposed to Ranson debt free, releases the club from interest generated debt, making it easier to run in a 'sustainable' way and, in theory, means more budget for the playing side.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13
Says a lot about the situation that we've got people hoping we get taken over by someone every other club is desperate to avoid.

The guy is basically a running joke, when there's talk of any club being up for sale their rivals give it the 'hope Ashley buys them' line.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #14
Evo1883 said:
Since the verdict?

The stadium is done , gone .. it's Ashley's
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Seemingly may want to offer him money for it....
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #15
Just completely desperate that it’s even come to this.

Our best option is a widely disliked tracksuit merchant with a mediocre track record in football at best, who may not even want to buy us anyway. Great!
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #16
SBT said:
Just completely desperate that it’s even come to this.

Our best option is a widely disliked tracksuit merchant with a mediocre track record in football at best, who may not even want to buy us anyway. Great!
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Better than SISU, pilloried by Newcastle fans? Maybe good reason to do so but Newcastle fan‘s passion meant that they wanted a rich owner, hence a Sheik with a Stake.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #17
SBT said:
Just completely desperate that it’s even come to this.

Our best option is a widely disliked tracksuit merchant with a mediocre track record in football at best, who may not even want to buy us anyway. Great!
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If mediocre is splashing his company name on the stadium and giving us premier league football and survival .. I'm in

People forget ashley never owned St James Park either
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #18
Flying Fokker said:
Better than SISU, pilloried by Newcastle fans? Maybe good reason to do so but Newcastle fan‘s passion meant that they wanted a rich owner, hence a Sheik with a Stake.
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I know ‘Big Mike’ has plenty of fans on here, but the “Toon fans wanted the moon on a stick” stuff is just a tired cliche at this point.

The facts are facts - he took Newcastle backwards and set them back decades compared to who they were used to competing with. Were they not taken over by another Billionaire Ex Machina, there’s a decent chance we’d be playing them this season or next.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #19
Evo1883 said:
If mediocre is splashing his company name on the stadium and giving us premier league football and survival .. I'm in

People forget ashley never owned St James Park either
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What’s his track record of buying a club and improving their league position and financial clout?

He gave Newcastle “PL football and survival” from a starting position of being one of the biggest spending clubs in England who played in Europe almost every year.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #20
SBT said:
I know ‘Big Mike’ has plenty of fans on here, but the “Toon fans wanted the moon on a stick” stuff is just a tired cliche at this point.

The facts are facts - he took Newcastle backwards and set them back decades compared to who they were used to competing with. Were they not taken over by another Billionaire Ex Machina, there’s a decent chance we’d be playing them this season or next.
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I agree with your analysis, and ideally I wouldn't want him, but he'd be an improvement on the current mob, we need rid of them
 
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slondonskyblue

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  • Nov 17, 2022
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SBT said:
I know ‘Big Mike’ has plenty of fans on here, but the “Toon fans wanted the moon on a stick” stuff is just a tired cliche at this point.

The facts are facts - he took Newcastle backwards and set them back decades compared to who they were used to competing with. Were they not taken over by another Billionaire Ex Machina, there’s a decent chance we’d be playing them this season or next.
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As much as it pains me to admit it, Newcastle are a massive club. We'd all be happy with Premier League mediocrity and he has deep enough pockets to potentially offer that.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #22
chiefdave said:
Says a lot about the situation that we've got people hoping we get taken over by someone every other club is desperate to avoid.

The guy is basically a running joke, when there's talk of any club being up for sale their rivals give it the 'hope Ashley buys them' line.
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were not every club are we?

how is he a running joke? A successful businessman who with Newcastle ended up selling to the Saudi’s and now look at them?

he wants the club. He is part of the reason why we are flying up the table. We have a lot to be thankful of him already
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 17, 2022
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GIMOC said:
were not every club are we?

how is he a running joke? A successful businessman who with Newcastle ended up selling to the Saudi’s and now look at them?

he wants the club. He is part of the reason why we are flying up the table. We have a lot to be thankful of him already
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[citation needed]

What position did he play for us against QPR m8?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #24
SBT said:
What’s his track record of buying a club and improving their league position and financial clout?

He gave Newcastle “PL football and survival” from a starting position of being one of the biggest spending clubs in England who played in Europe almost every year.
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We also need to look at this another way .. Coventry City can't really go backwards financially , the only way is literally up based on size and infrastructure currently
 
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GIMOC

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #25
SBT said:
[citation needed]

What position did he play for us against QPR m8?
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If he didn’t temporarily fund the running of the CBS there would have been no game.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #26
SBT said:
I know ‘Big Mike’ has plenty of fans on here, but the “Toon fans wanted the moon on a stick” stuff is just a tired cliche at this point.

The facts are facts - he took Newcastle backwards and set them back decades compared to who they were used to competing with. Were they not taken over by another Billionaire Ex Machina, there’s a decent chance we’d be playing them this season or next.
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Ashley's ownership of Newcastle was not dissimilar to SISU's ownership of us, they just started at a higher point. 9 out of the 10 seasons prior to Ashley's involvement they finished high enough to be playing in Europe. Under Ashley they were relegated twice and only qualified for Europe once.

Some people seem to think he'll come in and go all out to make us a top Prem club but the evidence doesn't really back that up.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #27
Sky now... a couple of fans outside CBS...
One was an embarrassment- the other, fairly sensible.... (Oli Dyer - well done!)
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #28
GIMOC said:
If he didn’t temporarily fund the running of the CBS there would have been no game.
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I was joking tbh - it’s the part about wanting the club that really needs clarifying.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 17, 2022
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clint van damme said:
I agree with your analysis, and ideally I wouldn't want him, but he'd be an improvement on the current mob, we need rid of them
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Yeah, which doesn't contradict SBT's initial point of course.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #30
GIMOC said:
were not every club are we?

how is he a running joke? A successful businessman who with Newcastle ended up selling to the Saudi’s and now look at them?

he wants the club. He is part of the reason why we are flying up the table. We have a lot to be thankful of him already
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That was exactly my point, we're not every club, we're so deep in the shit that we're welcoming an approach from someone everyone else is desperate to avoid.

I'm not sure the fact that Newcastle were better before his ownership and have improved since he has left is quite the selling point you think it is.

Ashley has exactly nothing to do with the current performance of the team.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #31
GIMOC said:
If he didn’t temporarily fund the running of the CBS there would have been no game.
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CCFC didn't play there for free.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #32
It's really hard to say if it is going to be better. Could it be any worse?

Yeah on the pitch we are on a great run, ideally we would know exactly what Ashley's plans are if he takes over to know more.

If he comes in and guarantees promotion to the PL, no massive debts needing to be paid back to him etc then what's not to like?
 

GIMOC

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #33
chiefdave said:
That was exactly my point, we're not every club, we're so deep in the shit that we're welcoming an approach from someone everyone else is desperate to avoid.

I'm not sure the fact that Newcastle were better before his ownership and have improved since he has left is quite the selling point you think it is

Ashley has exactly nothing to do with the current performance of the team.
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beggars can’t be choosers. look at what this club has been through over the years. not sure how you can compare Newcastle situation ours. When he needed to, he invested in Newcastle. same can’t be said about sisu

as for the comment on the team upturn. If you can’t see how he’s helped then your blinkered glasses near a good clean
 

GIMOC

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #34
Nick said:
CCFC didn't play there for free.
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but CCFC couldn’t pay the bills when acl was on the brink of admin. Ashley funded a lot of money past few weeks to keep the cbs open. If he didn’t we certainly wouldn’t have played there and even more so wouldn’t be on the run we are now.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #35
Nick said:
If he comes in and guarantees promotion to the PL, no massive debts needing to be paid back to him etc then what's not to like?
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What if someone came in and said our debts were all gone and guaranteed no sales in January?
 
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